dmt and quartz

[deemster414]

i have been dabbing cannabis for a long time with a quartz domeless nail, and it never changes the clarity of the nail, but when i dab dmt off of the same nail, the nail actually reacts to where i dabbed the dmt. It looks like its recrystallizing on that spot. getting nail red hot does not erase it, its very cool to watch as it happens instantly. explain this please.

 

[Make Shift]

hey, i'm trying to dab dmt out of a home made rig using a ceramic nail with carb cap.
What is the temperature to go ? i get the feeling that if i put the dmt in the crystal form instead of vaporizing it might just get burned.
What's your take on it ? should it melt a little first and then go on to the nail ? i'm trying to find the perfect temperature...i read it from 200 degree F all the way to 375....could it be a little more specific ? more subtle ?

 

[Global]

i have been dabbing cannabis for a long time with a quartz domeless nail, and it never changes the clarity of the nail, but when i dab dmt off of the same nail, the nail actually reacts to where i dabbed the dmt. It looks like its recrystallizing on that spot. getting nail red hot does not erase it, its very cool to watch as it happens instantly. explain this please.

That's interesting. I was just talking to someone two days ago who planned to dab DMT on a quartz crystal, but I had no idea what he should expect. I wish I had an explanation for you, but I don't. It would be interesting to think that DMT and quartz have some kind of crystallizing affinity for each other or something. I look forward to hearing a more knowledgeable answer.

 

[FLeP]

hey, i'm trying to dab dmt out of a home made rig using a ceramic nail with carb cap.
What is the temperature to go ? i get the feeling that if i put the dmt in the crystal form instead of vaporizing it might just get burned.
What's your take on it ? should it melt a little first and then go on to the nail ? i'm trying to find the perfect temperature...i read it from 200 degree F all the way to 375....could it be a little more specific ? more subtle ?

To my knowledge there isn't an accepted ideal temperature that spice should be vaped at. Try 350F? If it's harsh then you are burning it. If it is smooth then you can increase your temp if necessary. Remember, fortune favors the bold! :thumb_up:

 

[SomeStray]

It's speculation, but DMT probably has a molecular structure that's sufficiently comaptible with the crystal structure of quartz for it to mobilize into the quartz and distribute interstitially as crystallographic defects. The heat provides the energy of activation necesary for the quartz's vibrations to let individual molecules enter its matrix and from there they're driven deeper by a concentration gradient.

These particles would then be somewhat regularly spaced by the crystal matrix of the quartz (not every compatible interstitial spot occupied, but higher concentration near the contact source and more finely spread deeper into the crystal).

Reheating would not remove or significantly move them since they are at an extremely favorable point in terms of Gibbs Free Energy once they settle into the quartz matrix. I would expect to see some "evening out" if heated for prolonged periods, but there would be no real driving force to move/remove them and it wouldn't be enough to destroy them since the quartz crystal lattice at that point would be helping hold the DMT molecule in shape preventing degredation.

This would naturally cause a color change if I'm right about what's happening.

Please take all of this speculation with a grain of salt. It's been a while since I've studied crystal systems. I'm also waffling on whether GFE is the right notion to explain why it's such a favorable energy state once they settle into the matrix. It's a combination of entropy, enthalpy, and surface energy at the interstitial site. I should have saved some of those text books from my youth...

Incidentally, I'd love to see a picture of your nail if you're inclined to share. Just be sure to strip the meta-data before you upload it anywhere.