DMT and the Dark Arts

[Cazman043]

Dmt and the Dark Arts - A story of a young pschonaut, a Female Wizard and her cast of spells.

Last night I was at a Bush Doof and had ingested some MDMA and Ketmaine. My mind was still, and i felt like i was in a fairly nice place, so i decided to move off from the main dance floor and found a magical tent which was lit with rainbow lights, spinning around angelically as these beings dressed in colours of all sorts, crazy wizard hats, staffs and capes, sat on a blown up bed, bouncing, laughing and cuddling under blankets. It drew me in, these beings looked to be so magical and informed. So happy, so energetic, so… enticing!

I sat with them and begun to make myself feel comfortable, joining in on some of the intimacy that they shared, they offered me some weed, and I wasn't going to deny, this made me feel encompassed by a giving nature, and felt i too could provide them with an experience. I decided to roll a changa doobie.

As we sat together, i began to roll the changa doobie with the Wizard Lady. She'd had acid and coke and was extremely bubbly and playful. She helped me scoop the sacred molecule into the paper, and roll it into a beautiful joint. I did the honours and lit it up. I took several deep puffs and then lay back on her stomach, as she began to smoke and share the joint around. I looked into the depths of the tent and saw wonderful crystallised balls forming in mid air, illuminating in golden colours indescribable to the naked eye. They came into existence, spun through the air emitting a frequency of love and compassion and then dissolved back into the nothingness. I was intoxicated with this deep inner stillness, time seemed to have ceased, it was purely this moment, filled with colours of love.

The joint returned to me, i took several more deep breathes and again lay down on this girls stomach. This time i realised she begun to play with my hair. It didnt bother me at the start, but then it started to feel like a dark claw was trying to enmesh itself into my skull. I started to use my conscious attention to dissolve the darkness, but it felt like i was under attack. So i moved and asked her what she was doing. She replied "come back, I'm writing something on the back of your head." To this, I was a little shocked, writing something on the back of my head? I wonder what? Why did it feel like a darkness was trying to overrun my being. I got up and stood for a while, i could feel this dark presence on the back of my being, but there was still a deep inner stillness which i attempt to fall back into, however, this presence would not leave my mind. I knew something was wrong. I went to my car and got some San Pedro, a wood used to clear negative energies and begun to burn it around my aura, i then began to command this being to leave my presence as i used my hand and began to wipe at my skull, sending the intention of Universal love and compassion to ward off all dark presences. I then saw this dark claw slowly recoil and this hellish looking writing begin to dissolve in light. I'm not sure what the words said… they were scribbly in nature, coloured by a whitish red with flames.

After that, i walked around the campsite a bit confused as to what just went on. I was still extremely disassociated with my environment, with no understanding of what the difference was between a tree and the music playing at a distance. So i walked in a strange state of confusion and content, not having any direction, just simply stumbling through the dark forest without any direct path. I then went back to the dance floor and, intrigued by what just happened, begun to observe the people i'd just shared the changa with. To my shock, i saw them performing strange energy like magic. They would dance with staffs and build up these big whirls of energy and then send them over the entire dance floor. They would dance and create energy balls and then direct them towards people. It was as if they would use the power of their mind to create energy, and then give that to other beings… But it didnt feel right, these other people didnt give them permission to give them energy, so it felt like they were breaking the laws of the Universe.

One of them came up to me and i gave him a hug. He left his hand on my back for a while, then, suddenly, squeezed my spine with his fingernails. I felt a shock run up through my back, and felt like something had been ripped from my spine. Again, i used the San Pedro, universal love and awareness to fill the hole he had attempted to rip out of my Being. I was stunned by this strange thing he'd just done. Curious, i begun to watch him as he went around the dance floor, he'd hug people, and then leave his hand on their back as he'd speak to them, completely engaged in the conversation, locking eyes. Then, he'd turn his head away and boom, he'd squeeze the persons back with his nails. I saw him do this to another two people. I almost felt compelled to say to him that he shouldn't be squeezing peoples spines as its dangerous for their Kundalini, but felt it wasn't my place, so decided to just enter a spaciousness within myself of observation, without any judgement, just pure compassion as i watched these intriguing Beings performing magic of some Sorts.

Today, i still feel a little bit of the residue of the writing in the back of my skull and the claw which was dug into my spine. It feels a little dark and heavy, but I'm clearing them with awareness and patience, I may have to go see a Reiki healer whom can help clear these dark patches which seem to be located in my Auric field. However, this was an amazing experience to have, and i wouldn't take it back for the world, for i feel i've learnt a great deal about DMT, the powers of the Mind, the reality of energy and intention and ultimately, to be very mindful with whom i choose to share my DMT experiences with.

So i ask you, what sort of experiences have you guys had with the Dark Arts or Energetic Magic in general, what are your thoughts?

 

[waitwhatwhere]

Hey there,

Did you at any point ask this person what she was writing on the back of your head or why she felt entitled to do so? Everyone's style is different, but you might want to consider how context influenced your perception of these events. It sounds like you didn't know this person very well and she did sometihng a bit unnerving while you were under the spell of DMT. It doesn't necessarily mean she enscribed a glyph on your subtle skull.

Multiple-molecule problems like yours can be difficult to untangle, since altered perceptions and heightened emotions can lead one to conclude things that solely exist in your mind. The counterpoint is that we are sensitized to processes and energies not normally accessible in these states. That said, some witchy-types have uses for DMT that may unsettle more inexperienced users, but mind control and hexing aren't among them to my knowledge. Of course, some people are assholes who do not respect the level of vulnerabilty shared during a DMT induced trance. Figuring out which of these applies to your situation may be helpful.

 

[Cazman043]

Hey there,

Of course, some people are assholes who do not respect the level of vulnerabilty shared during a DMT induced trance. Figuring out which of these applies to your situation may be helpful.

I dunno man, have you heard of the Shamans in South America called Broodoos who use ayahuasca to open up the user and then taunt them with dark spirits? I don't necessarily think this is an evil act, but i feel those whom choose to use "magic" or use energy as a source of power, need to first discuss with the individual if they are open to the idea. It shouldn't be something done beyond the will of another individual, they should be completely informed before an individual starts to use their energy to do whatever it is they're choosing to do with the other energy field of a being. I sound kinda paranoid in this exert, however, it was more of an intrigue… However, i was definitely a lot more cautious of who i let touch my spine . The areas touched are extremely sensitive for all beings, especially when tuning into kundalini/Pineal gland activity, and to start touching that area of another person (especially whilst under the influence) seems to lack understanding or respect of the sensitive nature of these areas.

 

[RAM]

Fortunately I cannot say that I have had any major experiences with evil energy or dark arts as you call them. I did go to an extreme haunted house once (like one of those giant ones you run around for hours with hundreds of monsters) and my own house became a little haunted afterward. We just burned some sage and chanted a bit and were fine, so I assume it was nothing major.

As much as we want to believe that all of this magic stuff we run across is ultimately based on love, I am not so sure. My mother, a very rational person, tells stories of using Ouija boards in her childhood. She said that her and her sister's use of the board led to a long-term haunting of their home by one or more poltergeists. One instance in particular stands out in memory: they asked the board/spirits if it/they wanted some candy, and the response was "Yes." So they left some candy on the board, turned the lights off, and left the room. When they returned five minutes later, the candy was gone, inexplicably (no parents or pets around).

The whole family would also constantly see black figures out of the corner or their eyes and hear scratching on the windows late at night. No one in that family used drugs or practiced anything occult-ish (besides the Ouija board), but this is the best example I have of someone close to me experiencing evil spirits.

I have no doubt that there are energy/Kundalini thieves out there, be they humans or otherworldly entities. However, I would think (or like to think...) that through the power of cooperation and love that people can summon more energy than if they were to just steal it from others. I am sorry to hear that you had a negative run in, but the upside is that we can all now be more wary of such spiritual conmen in the future.

 

[waitwhatwhere]

Hey there,

Of course, some people are assholes who do not respect the level of vulnerabilty shared during a DMT induced trance. Figuring out which of these applies to your situation may be helpful.

i feel those whom choose to use "magic" or use energy as a source of power, need to first discuss with the individual if they are open to the idea. It shouldn't be something done beyond the will of another individual, they should be completely informed before an individual starts to use their energy to do whatever it is they're choosing to do with the other energy field of a being.
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However, i was definitely a lot more cautious of who i let touch my spine . The areas touched are extremely sensitive for all beings, especially when tuning into kundalini/Pineal gland activity, and to start touching that area of another person (especially whilst under the influence) seems to lack understanding or respect of the sensitive nature of these areas.

I've heard directly of stories like this in the Amazon, Cazman043. It's a thing, but how much of a thing it is in festival contexts, I am unsure. I agree that one should discuss any intential energy manipulation and it should ideally be consentual and pre-negotiated. Did you ever get the story of what was intended to be inscribed on the posterior of your skull?

Admittedly, I do like to eliminate other options before discussing the metaphysical and magical, especially in festival contexts. I also take issue with the duality implied with 'Dark' and 'Light' arts, given that I've benifited directly from actions to which I probably didn't consent while under the influence of DMT: I've had a skilled person facillitate the unleashing of my kundalini through deft spinal manipulation and sexual interaction. If someone proposed doing just that before it happened to me, I'd have probably laughed at them and braced my psychic barriers. It was only later that I found tantric vocabulary to verbalize what happened to me.

So I think I need more information. Did anyone who experienced the spine-nail-clench express any unpleasant effects to you?

As for energetic magic, I'm similarly reserved, yet likewise grok the question. 'Energies' are poorly defined. So it's mushy from the start. Nevertheless, I've had a number of experiences under the influence of several substances that indicate to me that there is more than meets the eye. It's a big question.

 

[ultraviolence]

It sounds like an issue of improper set and setting to me. The subconscious thought of black magic brought on by their costumes. I think you mean Palo Santo, not San Pedro those are 2 very different things. Also they are called Brujo, not Broodoo.

 

[Cazman043]

It sounds like an issue of improper set and setting to me. The subconscious thought of black magic brought on by their costumes. I think you mean Palo Santo, not San Pedro those are 2 very different things. Also they are called Brujo, not Broodoo.

Thanks for the hit up on those mistakes, i knew i was stuffing it somehow there haha, appreciate it!

 

[PsyDuckmonkey]

Hey, I see the last answers were a month ago, I hope this doesn't count as necroing a thread. I decided to put my own thoughts here because I've been involved quite deeply in Magick and witchcraft, and to be honest I'm taking a small exception at the somewhat denigrating way this was mentioned here...

There are many ways of approaching the extrasensual, and psychedelics only one of them. One can train themselves for a level of emotional "hypersensitivity", through what you might describe as "energy manipulation". I agree that energy is such a vague word, but I guess if we use it less in its scientific, and more in its popular sense, it describes pretty closely the sensations and ideas that such spiritual paths work with.

What counts as "dark" and "light" is up for grabs by anyone. The borderline between manipulation and communication is paper thin. What level of "connection" is deemed socially acceptable is hard to pinpoint, especially in a society where such hypersensitivity is considered abnormal. I'd risk that if you were cuddling with a girl at a party, both of you already had lowered boundaries. In her subculture, this level of sharing emotional energies may have been perfectly acceptable in that social situation.

As for "shooting energy" at random people, let's posit that you didn't simply hallucinate it based on your heightened emotional state, and there actually were such flows involved. If I want to equate it to something in my own experience with such practices, it was probably an attempt at extrasensual communication. In a world of deaf-dumbs, I doubt shouting in people's ears would be considered particularly bad manners.

If you had a Japanese and an Arab together without any education about international protocol and each others' culture, the Japanese may find the Arab obnoxiously and violatingly pushy, while the Arab may find the Japanese aloof and unfriendly. Does that mean any of them had bad intentions?

Unfortunately, I've met many, many people in both the psychedelic and the "Magickal" subcultures who projected their momentary negative emotions onto others, maybe even whole classes of others. I've met awesome, awesome, bright and incredibly positive people branded "energy vampires", and weak and judgmental wrecks of a human being heralded as "enlightened masters" - based on little more than their choice of clothes.

If I can give one suggestion, try to be more open to other human beings, and less open to irrational fears.

 

[Cazman043]

If I can give one suggestion, try to be more open to other human beings, and less open to irrational fears.

I see where you're coming from bro, but I think if one is intentionally manipulating the energy of other beings without their permission, they are defining universal laws based on love and compassion. Man has Free will, and it isn't anyone else's job to force some kind of voodoo on them without their consent. I think if one does participate in these acts, they need to recognise that what they are doing is creating a karmic effect on themselves and the beings whom they are interacting with, to which could be of positive or negative effects, the agenda is still inappropriate without firstly informing and asking permission to perform whatever it is they wish to perform on the said subject.

With love~~MC~~

 

[jamie]

Why do you think there is a universal law of love and compassion? What about your real experience of life leads you to believe that there is such laws?

 

[Cazman043]

Why do you think there is a universal law of love and compassion? What about your real experience of life leads you to believe that there is such laws?

I've found through personal experience, as well as through the subjective experiences of others, whom have discussed their own understandings of existence through video media, bibliographies and books on the matter, as well as satsangs with those whom are said to be enlightened, that there is an underlying theme (or vibration) to all of existence which can be related to our word "love". Stillness, spaciousness, suchness, whatever you want to call it, when ones mind ceases to interfere with the workings of existence, that which was once forgotten is remembered. Like a mirror covered in dust, and then to have that dust wiped away, you may then see existence clearly, without the lens of our desires altering how we perceive reality. It seems, that it is love which shines through. Love encompasses all actions, their is no wrong way, for every way will lead you to the same understanding, however, we can cease to create karma for ourselves and others through following natures law.

I ask you Jamie, if you look within, with a quiet mind and an open heart, what do you find?

My love ~MC~

 

[PsyDuckmonkey]

Why do you think they were "forcing" anyone? Had they "forced" you, you'd probably have stayed and become that girls' love pet or something.

Yes, communication can create karma. It holds the potential for entanglement, misunderstandings, pain and disappointment, irrational attachment, and whatnot. Does that mean communication is bad? Good communication (understanding) dissolves karma.

Verbal and body communication can also be deemed persuasive or manipulative. Do you think people should ask each others' permissions before presenting an argument or trying to create an emotional connection? We're all kings of our own universes (even if it's in shambles), we're big enough to handle being talked to. Either verbally or spiritually.

"Excuse me, would you be okay if I flirted with you?"
"Hm... I guess, go ahead and do your best."
"You seem like an awesome person. I've read that book before as well, how do you like it?"