DMT experience journal

[Just Say Know]

So far i've not been able to breakthrough. And i'm working with goo created from acacia confusa rootbark if anyone wants to know. But the few experiences i embarked on were primarily low doses. Some had interesting visuals i imagined (no "everywhere i see is a pattern" type visuals or blasting off into hyperspace yet) but the goo is good!

I wish i would have tried this extraction before! There does seem to be a few issues though, such as left over vinegar (i was afraid of burning the dmt if i over-dried it) but it resembles the tar you scrape out of a pipe after longterm cannabis smoking. It has an acacia confusa tea taste (with vinegar).

But generally these first couple of experiences (a total of around 7 with 2 being strong, 3 being moderate, and 2 being mild and 1 having particularly interesting visual imprintations). So far i think these are either "thresh-hold doses" or at least body sensorial experiences. I know that NMT is also found in ACRB which might account for the sensorial focus of the experience.

When i go into this thresh-hold type experience sometimes it feels as though everything in my body is tingly, good, and healthy. i experience this really weird but definitely not placebo or imagined stomach experience kinda reminiscent of when my tummy isn't necessarily upset but weird stuff is going on down there and it just feels odd. The effects wear off very quickly as was expected, sometimes the peak (which is 5-15 mins) is the only effects while other times it fades into an afterglow but so far the duration seems much shorter than was expected.

So far, thresh-hold doses (or whatever these particular experiences could be called) are very introspective and both easy to integrate as well as being easy to not integrate and delve into a sort of escapism but so far my intentions are to not use DMT for that reason but i could see how the effects could contribute to either escapism or at least a sort of escapism. Not quite forgetting your problems but i suppose what this is in which i'm trying to convey is the feeling as if i should do some personal development beforehand to help the trip impact my life in a more profound and personal way.

I haven't met any entities (yet), i haven't quite lost touch of my ego (yet), i haven't quite "traveled" (yet), and i haven't had drastic visuals (though i have had some very intricate and beautiful imprintations. However these experiences are incredibly interesting and they provide a quick and different outlook. I want to go farther and share what i experience. At this level it is easy to share and articulate the experience. I definitely recommend low doses and gently weaning into it bit by bit, step by step! the thresh-hold dose (or whatever) is definitely not a disappointment.

So i want to say a warm thank you to the nexus for helping me, answering my questions, and for listening. You guys are awesome and allow for this type of experience to be easier to acquire yourself and I know and trust that you guys are always here for me when i need support, want to share something, or have a question.

Peace and love!

 

[DranoTheCat]

Sounds like some good first experiences. You mention low doses, but unless I missed it, I'm not sure exactly how much you are taking.

I categorize my DMT trips as: 1) body high only; 2) body high and some visuals; 3) full breakthrough. It is bizarre, but a tiny amount difference can seem to separate #2 from #3. Or maybe not quite holding it in long enough. I've found that successful breakthroughs take a bit of technique and practice.

From your description, it sounds similar to what I would categorize as a level 2 DMT experience. As I said, I'm not sure what your doses were, or much about your consumption technique, but perhaps you might want to try a bit more.

Another question is, do you keep your eyes open or closed? I find that thinking too hard with my eyes open can cause the blast off to misfire a bit. For the peak, I tend to prefer to close my eyes, in order to see more.

Neat name, btw; it's punny Good luck with your adventures!

 

[Just Say Know]

Thanks! Also i'm heating a glass bowl full of the goo but not directly tocuhing it with flame and i'm taking up to two hits. going to try to breakthrough here in a minute and report back on whether or not i get to. If not then whenever the time is right But i don't know my exact dosage but it's not much from what i can tell. Very interesting though! heck, i wouldn't mind thresh-holding once a day! Definitely makes some genuine changes in my mood.

 

[TGO]

I wish i would have tried this extraction before! There does seem to be a few issues though, such as left over vinegar (i was afraid of burning the dmt if i over-dried it) but it resembles the tar you scrape out of a pipe after longterm cannabis smoking. It has an acacia confusa tea taste (with vinegar).

I am assuming that you are using Q21Q21's tek 1 and are utilizing the "free base conversion via heat?"

If so, I discovered (more like I was led in the right direction by dreamer042) that the conversion to freebase via heat is not an absolutely effective method. Through personal experimentation, I found it to be very inconsistent. The general consensus is that the heat may not convert all (or any) of it to free base and is probably why many people do not use this method. You can smoalk DMT acetate but as you mentioned, there is a vinegar taste/residue that for me, after a while, started to become quite unpleasant.

It was worlds apart when I started using the "free basing with sodium carbonate" method. This method guarantees that your product will convert from an acetate to free base. Ever since then, my trips have not been so hit and miss anymore. Anyway, just my two cents! Feel free to do whatever you please!

Anyway, back to your original post... I have found the NMT to be quite pleasant in conjunction with DMT. I am pretty sure the NMT content is also slightly responsible for the variations of intensity. Say you load up 20mg of acacia goo, up to half of that (10mg) could potentially be NMT and vice versa. So, one 20mg journey on acacia goo could be vastly different from another one with the same dosage.

I wouldn't worry too much about the entity thing. I have had quite a few breakthroughs now and have still yet to meet one "face-to-face" ... I even made a thread concerning this matter if interested:

The Great Elusiveness

I must agree with you on the low dosing. I love it! I believe there are many benefits to low dosing and can be just as important as a full on breakthrough dose, IME. DMT is something quite unlike anything else.

From here, to the moon, around every star and back again, I wish you the best!

 

[Just Say Know]

Aww, thanks The Grateful One! I'll look for the page that explains the freebasing from sodium carbonate, would i be able to do it on the dmt acetate goo? So far it hasn't hurt my lungs but i don't like the idea of smoalking vinegar. Also i'm considering turning the rest of it into a changa but i'll need to read up on how to make it. I hear it's quite easy.

Ohh and this reminds me: i had one last experience last night before the night was over in complete darkness and for sure there was definitely intensification of visuals. This could be due to perhaps taking a bigger hit but generally i contribute it to being a setting thing. This time there were definite closed eye visuals and when i opened them the dark room looked kinda weird (it looked "normal" as in everything was normal but the perception was different than usual).

So far DMT has also made me feel slightly buried emotions but so far i haven't made significant changes due to a lack of knowing how and probably also due to motivation issues. I'm going to actively try to make changes in my life (primarily trying to talk to my dad more rather than having all this empty space between us while he watches tv and i use the computer, etc). But i think this will make a longterm change in my ideology rather than my actions. And i think that as my ideology changes i will also be able to change my behavior.

 

[TGO]

No problem! Yes, you can freebase your DMT acetate goo. It is relatively simple and can be found in the BLAB tek in the WIKI. If you scroll down to the bottom of the page you will find the instructions! All you need is:

DMT acetate
Sodium carbonate (which can be easily made from baking soda)
99% isopropyl alcohol

Good luck!

 

[Just Say Know]

Awesome! i would very much like to try a better form of DMT to allow for breakthrough. I have a humble amount of goo that i'm not sure will last for too long but i think i will save it for freebasing! Will try to report back with what i'm hoping is a breakthrough.

 

[Just Say Know]

Also I've been noticing a change in temperature perception where i am able to notice the temperature differences in the house (which is distributed unevenly). If i notice anything worth noting regarding changes in temperature perception i will do so. However so far i think this could just be a placebo effect but i did consider that it is attributable to some sort of serotonin mechanism but i personally don't know much about this or how DMT influences the brain or body.

 

[Just Say Know]

So i recently achieved a breakthrough. I would love to describe a descent portion of individual factors in different forms that contributed to my set and well my setting is simply a dark room, but the reason for not describing these things is because in the end my relationship with DMT progressed and i now have a few perhaps biased views on some theories about this molecule and it's endogeneousness. (also i needed to get STB, straight to business (pun!)) I do not wish to share these theories as information (but rather speculation) as i currently realize within a lack of structure to a particular theory in question there also internalizes misinformation. Generally the theory is that DMT advances progress of the self and to re-eveluate the self's directive (spiders spin webs, most birds fly south, humans... well they do all kinds of stuff naturally and unnaturally). However i note that this is simple speculation and nothing more.

As i write, i noticed a complete change in thought process. As i noted i do not understand the neuroscience of DMT and i currently realize that approaching it from this angle i will probably be left with little answers to my DMT related questions. However may i offer an invocation for understanding to myself?

More specifically my Self's. I hereby understand that there are many. And that i am not talking about the new movie that i really, really, really want to see (Disney's "inside out" ). But the thing is, i believe under the above mentioned theory on what DMT's purpose is that there is indeed a psychological self known under my interpretation as "the hyperspace self". This self is not higher than anyother but simply has the function of progressing the self as well as re-evaluating one's directive or perhaps meaning in their life. Perhaps the directive is to increase scientific understanding, communicate, instrospection, etc and thereby changing our own understanding on how to change these things in the form of integration (which is the steady practice of understanding and learning about an experience in life, according to my definition). And i believe that DMT is so drastically different from one person to the next because of it's theoretical function. It would explain a good bit of why every person experiences things differently and would still allow for the notion of set and setting (which i've actually seen examples of playing a far lesser degree of affect on one's DMT experience according to some of you.) So the question at large is if identity plays as much a major role as the environment you undertake the journey in and the mindset and attributes the traveler carries with them on their back as they walk off into the unknown possibilities of atrocity as well as flourishment. Equal love and hate await.

If this is true then maybe (or maybe not) it explains why DMT shows us the gates of perception, possibly changing us forever. Maybe it is to simply help us understand our self and to change what our purpose we think we are destined to fulfill through an often thankless job of teaching and projecting experiences so beyond our understanding that the end result will be to better our understanding of at least something whether that be the self or that be the world around us and how we can influence it. Perhaps it's because DMT could very well hyperslap or hyperhug us but in truth we need that and it knows it and we know it but who needs to say it when time is so short for each individual yet going nowhere within the same perspective.

So in conclusion DMT breakthroughs are amazing.

But seriously, I want some of you to think of this theory i've developed because i'm not so sure yet at the same time i don't think (i know) that there is some truth to this in regard to humanity at the least. Who knows what the bigger, more broader role of DMT is in everything but so far i strongly believe i'm at least onto something or getting somewhere towards a brief and relatively coherent understanding of the purpose of all this. Then again, who knows? DMT could just affect parts of the brain in certain areas that deal with what i'm talking about. Furthermore for every glorious breakthrough beyond human understanding there will be a part of the human that will always add to the breakthrough making DMT and the being a relationship, a co-op, a collective, etc.

Like i said, this is all speculation. Don't take my thoughts at face value and understand that for each intellectual breakthrough that one person has, there will always be something someone else can add or a way in which someone else can improve what you thought was your contribution alone.

Lastly i wanted to actually describe my first ever breakthrough dose. So i had to take multiple hits to achieve this but dang it was amazing to experience true visuals (that indeed invaded every inch of my being) and to communicate with some sort of not me but kinda me entity (which is where the self/directive theory came into play). I did communicate with this being and during the experience it was as though life started then and there (not that i was reborn but that i had just awoke from a very long dream of blissful ignorance towards my own way of thinking, my own perspective, and my own morale ideologies and as i awoke it was as though the dream before was only the beginning of the day) and through it starting then and there it will probably affect me from this point forward.

When i was in the experience i didn't realize how drastically i would change but i knew i was definitely adrift endless possible introspections that i did feel that i had choice in. It was like being given a thousand dollar shopping spree but with thoughts, emotions, visuals, and introspective (higher) meanings and insights; the only price was the alternative value of whatever i didn't pursue into introspecting (wow that's a word apparently) and the time it would take to achieve satisfied and effective integration.

Anyways, the visuals were like that of which when i close my eyes but with alot more patterns and i remember looking at them intently and giving them my undivided focus towards attempting to understand (but of course not fully doing so). Around when i was having visuals (and btw there were definite environmental changes inbetween dosing, particularly interesting was light source and it's affect on color, texture, etc) i think this was when i too engaged in a dialogue with this... "entity" which i would call it that but wouldn't use the term but rather an unarticulated yet more understood paradigm. I guess it was like a rough draft understanding of "God", "me", "entities", and "Hyperspace" mixed into one concept but even in this description i feel i do not accurately describe the consciousness i encountered. This consciousness was like a self of my self but that exists only in hyperspace but i equally feel that isn't the case and in reality it has always been here with me and always will until infinity and beyond.

The experience is forgotten quickly (sort of, for me this is hard to explain. I remember almost all of it but it feels as though the exact memory has developed and changed because of an attempt to integrate it into my self. [Also, i'm assuming that integration is about taking the experiences you've experienced in life (whether psychedelic or not) and allow for the self to use them in order to develop it's own directive. You know what, i like that alot more than the original articulation but i'll keep both, back on topic btw. Once again, sorry if i'm seriously rambling]. All in all i think that i didn't forget the experience but rather it's interpretation or impact merged within and the contact with it's first impression severed as new impressions began following sobriety.

*Sigh* Lets just end it here with saying that i now have a relationship with the "Hyperspace self" and its this gooey acacia confusa extract's fault. If i may say; i'm glad.

 

[Just Say Know]

So i experienced two additional breakthroughs. For now i will just state that there was body sensations, visuals and patterns, entities, and that i was still in body for the most part. I saw images of female and male entities that felt primal and more shamanistic (i think that they may have perhaps been shamans if you believe that their really able to travel to places outside of the body.

Also i sort of met the "gatekeeper" who sort of halted my entrance into what was further insight and DMT experience. I understood that the "gatekeeper" had his reasons, tried to understand his perspective as well as attempting to find a way to convince him that i would do good with what i've been shown, and seemed to be allowed to experience a little more insight as if this "gatekeeper" was like "well i'll let you in for a peek" or something similar to that degree.

So yeah. can't recall as much from the experience this time around but generally it was a fairly different yet still all the same interesting experience. may many more follow in their wake! wish i could recall more though...

 

[FLeP]

Okay, I'm no expert but I have a feeling that you may have only achieved sub-breakthrough. I have only achieved sub-breakthrough myself. The first time I got the hit in me it felt like a switch had been flipped and I knew it was time to lay down. Changa by the way. I met a guide entity immediately behind my closed eyes which showed me visions that pertained to my life and the human race in general. There were straight up massive hallucinations as well as "visions" mixed together but I could always open my eyes and see (a somewhat augmented) reality. Usually how my trips go.

Were you able to open your eyes and see reality at all? Really this is unimportant as I feel any and all work with the spice is extremely valuable. Myabe because I havent broken through? Doesn't matter. I will eventually.

 

[TGO]

Ah, the old "was my experience a breakthrough?" question... When you breakthrough, you will know. At least that is what everyone (okay, not everyone but a lot) seems to say . To me, a breakthrough is simply a deeply profound experience and it does not necessarily have to be on DMT. Mushrooms, for instance, have brought me to the depths of what i would consider a "breakthrough" ... Total loss of self and full immersion into the experience are key factors, IME. But anyway, I don't want to go on a rant here! But here are some useful links to look at when trying to find ideas about what a "breakthrough" means to others...


Please Define DMT Breakthrough

Was this a breakthrough?

Trouble Breaking Through???

Attn. If you're having a hard time breaking through read this.

Training and working to the Breakthrough dose

Myabe because I havent broken through? Doesn't matter. I will eventually.

Absolutely! Persistence and dedication is key! Good luck!

 

[Just Say Know]

Setting- 2:06 Am. Darkness with some light off a clock (not blinking) and radio (blinking). planning for a Closed Eyes trip once i can get a good hit in. Air conditioned room laying on a couch in the living room. Cats making noise like liking theirself or eating food and air conditioner running in one direction while a loud fan blew in the other where my dad slept(background sound).

Set- Generally Had a good day today; went swimming and got lots of excersize through swimming, got treated some burger king and an energy drink (my guilty pleasure), got out of the house, talked to some friends, read a little and enjoyed it though wished i would have put forth more effort. recently: some social media conflict, posted some sarcastic comments on an article about police brutality in regard to someone defending the police, lots of stuff to be happy about though slight stress from the social media conflict incident and posting the sarcastic comments though not so in such an incredibly negative way. Currently Writting the Set and Setting for this trip. The cats might have changed activities but figured i'd mention them. Going to do a little undocumented, personal thinking for this trip and hoping that i can go farther than the last times. Begins the process of pre-trip introspection at around 2:22 Am. I close my computer during this time and do not open it until immediately in the afterglow period.

Type of experience: Definite Break through. "Death like". "intense". questioned reality and scared me for a moment. Words fail me.

The initial dose and it's effects- The first hit was surprisingly a very good one. DMT opened up to me more tonight and i should have stayed at one hit. I do not regret taking more however but weaning into it might have made it a teeny tiny bit easier.

The rest of the doses and their effects- As i took a few other hits (roughly three) i soon found myself emersed into hyperspace.

The effects as the final dose is administered and the experience begins without needing anymore (the transition)- it was very instant. It took control of me. I remember that the body sensations transcended reality and normal ways of sensing things. It almost felt like everything was made of the goo i just vaporized. Imagine too that you think you've just died and understand that the effects will ware off but are unable to relate to that idea and other drastic familiarities through your every day average normal, un-hyperspatial lense. Realizing that the effects will wear off does have some effect on making things easier but when you are unsure if anything is real, if you're dead, if you're just a fake brain, if anything is real, etc it was hard for me to actually become impacted by this notion. Thankfully, i am out of after glow as i begin to fine tune this report better.

Insights- many. I am not in control when i take DMT and that's okay. I just think that was the main idea. Not sure how it has affected me but i know it HAS. I still feel "me" and not drastically different in a negative sense though that was intense. I do have some things to think about and integrate. I hope that i can eventually get to read that integration guide so that i'm able to read it and understand how i could integrate this experience better.

Visuals/Visions- Well there was alot going on and it was kinda hard to explain everything but as usually crazy geometric shapes, impossible to perceive in detail visuals, various colours, patterns, morphing of the visual field, etc. Hard to describe, but definitely not anything simplistic, found in nature, or solidly relateable in appearance to the visual field of normal consciousness.

Entities- either many or a single one, hard to describe. I don't recall any in a physical form and it was a little like they didn't directly communicate with me "in person". Maybe hyperspace has a type of "hypernet" communication. Or maybe the previous use of the internet (which was more than 2 hours, possibly 4 to 6. It is a little hard to prioritize what details are ultimately important because it seems every single one is and i rapidly forget the experience but almost remember it in a way but cannot coherently articulate it

The impact- "holy crap...", scared the crap out of me for a moment during a sort of peak of the peak, extremely intense, beautiful, DMT has a sense of humor and can take that humor too far sometimes (i.e. taking my reality, doing whatever it wants to it, and doesn't care if i protest because i'm not ready for something like that, kinda either making fun of me in a way, or making so many things make so little sense until i have to "let go" or "give in" ).

Misc, summary, and elaboration- So the scary features were: being unable to decide if this or anything i have experienced is real or not. Having no idea what is going on, being unable to feel anything and know for sure that i'm feeling what i'm feeling (like was mentioned earlier, it was as if the actual molecule became everything. Has anyone seen the bravest warriors "wankershim" episode? it's like that but instead wankershim is alot less lovey dovey though not malicious. But i think i experienced both NMT and DMT breakthrough. The NMT description of "feeling hyperspace" is very accurate (refer to wankershim maybe) but i would further this by saying this experience was like "feeling a breakthrough". Hyperspace took control of my reality, senses (including sight, smell, touch, and everything) and created an overwhelming sense of the awesome, epic, profound, depersonalized, universally connected, incredibly personal, indescribable perception. There was a point where "the little death" would describe this blast off in a way (though not so "little" ) and where i could legitamitely believe that i would be stuck on this couch forever in a LIMBO death state (not because of disorientation but rather as a immediate reaction to the profound effects and overwhelming stimulation).

The experience took me beyond anything i've experienced before. I get it. I feel as though as i read different forms of DMT-advice and DMT-logic that i will slightly experience a relateable ironic emotion that i don't know how to describe except as being ironic and highly relateable. Alot of what DMT-Logic is comes from the experience of a break through i think, or at least it seems correlated or as a coincidence.

I understand the reason why we talk about DMT in certain ways and in different contexts and textures and why each one needs to be structured. I understand why the Nexus, who represents DMT and friends (but lets just focus on DMT for the moment) and how that absolutely requires a good deal of quality in content.

I remember the entity that was controling what i experienced was twisting my vision (and once again, realize that all senses have taken on the smell, feeling, qualities, and consciousness of this goo and in a very profound way this is like "synesthesia breakthrough" ) this way and that way and this way and that way (sort of morphing everything in a sort of energetic rhythm). When i touched myself, the couch, the pillow i was using, or anything, i wasn't sure what i was feeling because the stimulus was overwhelming and so much was going on all at once and many stimulus overlapped and tangled up together. Synesthesia Breakthrough. My fingers, my fingers, ohh god my fingers, how do they have receptors to feel this? how does my brain make them feel this even if it has nothing to do with the touch receptors all over my skin (it wasn't just the fingers alone, involved my whole body, but the finger tips specifically were most sensative)?

In Hyperspace the spectacular is all around you. I don't know if i want to describe anymore because it is THAT hard to articulate that i (a person who is able to flawlessly ramble on for hours) doesn't feel the confidence in communicating what happened accurately and this entire report is as good as it will probably get.

Also i happen to know that the senses are the foundation of your memories that you associate with these senses. I wanted to mention that because during the "pre-introspection phase" (which was nothing more than trying to clear my mind of the effects of the internet through a meditative state in which i should have practiced for longer) that i had the pipe with the goo in it up to my nose, hoping that it would maybe allow me to recall the experience whenever i smell the goo again. i do think that the smell of the product will for sure cause maybe not "flashbacks" but associations with the experience and any experiences i have with this to some kind of degree.

In conclusion, Breaking through is not as easy as watching Breaking Bad. I have alot to think about now and had even more cross my mind during this experience. Hope you guys either understand what i went through or what i mean. Thanks for reading!

 

[FLeP]

Sounds like you got a big hit,lol! Honestly, if I went that deep right now it would probably scare me right off the spice. I've definitely experienced a bit of synesthesia and do everytime I do a psychadelic but you dove right into it. Welcome back!

 

[Just Say Know]

Thanks FLeP I feel welcomed. It wasn't like traumatizing in a bad way. Just really intense.

(yesterday) I had another experience in the bath tub with my body propped up so that i could lay back and be safe from drowning (my bathtub is designed to be very small and it's really easy to consistently prop yourself up and stable yourself). I remember feeling entities (or maybe just body sensations) with my hands and the rest of my skin in my water touching me and swirling around in a current. Half of my body was submerged (besides the part that was stabilized) and i forget alot of what i experienced but i think next time i'm going to use a bigger bathtub with a trip sitter or something because water feels really cool when hyper-spacing.

This morning i plan on having another experience. I'll explain my Set and Setting:

Set- I just woke up in the middle of the night/morning and feel somewhat sleepy but not seriously so in an extent that i believe ruins the mood. I feel content and maybe confident. Regardless i feel ready-ish to do this again. I am going to consider how much goo i'm using and how often i use it. It isn't my intention to use it too often but so far i find that one blast off a day is okay in my current experience. Maybe that will change and if it does i'm sure hyperspace will want me to chill out a bit on the spice.

Setting- Dark room, sitting on the couch like before with the radio and clock but there is less darkness this time. the sun is rising from one window though i'll be closing my eyes soon. I'm going to lay down on the couch with a comforting cover and i'm going to listen to this song that someone in the welcome chat shared via link once upon a time:

https://soundcloud.com/mcthfg%2Fwithinwithoutthrough

So this time i had a visual sub breakthrough but the music cut out when i shut the laptop screen closed around when i think the effects were just beginning. I remember that it kinda ruined the trip because the music really made the perfect setting for the trip.

(also) So instead i decided to just smoke a little bud. I heard that after hyperspace that there can be an interesting difference in effects from some reason (Source: a memory of talking to dreamer about something and they mentioned it or something)

So instead of attempting breakthrough i'm going to chill and listen to the rest of this play list. I might take some kratom later. I rarely use kratom but i figured that DMT was involved so i'll edit in a trip report for it if it seems to be altered or affected.