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DMT Ingestion and cramps

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Dreammethodtool

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Swim has experimented once with ingestion along with caapi, and experienced stomach cramps not as a result of the caapi, but from the dmt.
The DMT worked for sure.
The caapi was made with the herb percolator method, and swim has ingested it several times with no issues whatsoever.
However, immediately after the freebase dmt was taken, in orange juice, relatively strong stomach cramps occured and lasted for a couple hours at least.

Is there any way to avoid this effect? Swim has found little info on this topic.

Swim guesses that salting would help, but he thought that was what dissolving in OJ was for....
Is this perhaps indication that insufficient caapi was consumed?
 
Sounds strange to me.
Because SWIM's experience is that it it's mostly the MAO who causes the trouble.
Never the DMT!

Maybe it's because of the freebase.
SWIM never consumed freebase orally.
Try to take DMT in salt form!
 
Dunno if this helps, but I learned from 69ron about Datura Stromonium seeds. Ingesting 1-3 of these seeds will greatly assist with nausea and cramps.

I have tried this out with LSA and LSH, and mushrooms, but never with DMT, But I usually get much more severe stomach cramps on LSA if I do not use datura.

BEWARE THOUGH: DATURA MAKES ANY SUBSTANCE WAAAY STRONGER, and you should never take more then 10 of them, but you need 1 to 3 to work well enough. They could also make the trip to crazy if you overdue it with the datura so be carefull
 
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