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anoldsoul

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Hello All,

I write to tell of my first experience with DMT. Just from poking around the site a little bit, and from reading reports given by others, it seems like everyone agrees that DMT is one heluva crazy time. It was no less with me.

Let me tell you of some of the preconditions. SWIM has been telling me about DMT for quite some time, and of SWIM's experiences with it. I decided that I was at a point that I too wanted to have such a crazy experience, one of the main reasons being that I wanted to have contact with otherworldly beings, and hopefully learn some cool stuff from them. My friend and I are on a spiritual path, and I was hoping to get a little help from some enlightened beings.

I'm 22 years old, a college drop-out, living with my non-college drop-out brother(currently in school). I work at a restaurant, and am living the life of a young adult; trying to figure out what life is all about. I was hoping DMT would give me a clue :)

Night of the trip: Tuesday, August 9th, 2011. Approximate time: 8:00pm
Location: my friend's room in my house( I live with 3 other house mates besides my brother) on the third floor.

It was my friend, his girlfriend, and me. We all did it.
The setup was this: me on the floor on a bean bag, sitting cross-legged leaning up against his door. SWIM and his girlfriend were on the bed, leaning up against the wall.

I'm not gonna lie, I was kinda nervous. My heart was beating pretty fast. I was excited, of course. I was about to launch into outer space, thanks to a drug resembling an orangy version of Sugar in the Raw. Also I think the cigarette I had recently smoked added to this kinda jumpy state.

We each had a pipe, a bowl, usually used for smoking weed (mine was brand new, bought just for this occasion). We put a small amount of weed in the bottom of the bowl, and poured the crystals on top of the weed.

We meditated to try and calm ourselves down a bit, and to get in the mood. After a while we lit up:

I lit up the spice and kept the flame to it until it started melting and burning. I inhaled, a long deep breath, I kept sucking until I couldn't suck anymore, then held it.

Zhoom. I was gone. Couldn't even put the bowl down before it took me. It seemed like everything in front of me was coming towards me. I shut my eyes and the weirdest sensation came over me. This is where my skills as a writer will be tested, because I even had a hard time describing it to my friends.

The way I've been describing it is that I felt like I was melting and being turned inside-out, at the same time. I guess the vapor was still in my lungs, so I was coughing it out. But it didn't feel like I was coughing up smoke, it felt like I was coughing up blood and bones, caused by being turned inside out/melting. Basically, I was dying.

This went on for some time, and all I could do was let it happen. I want to impress to you that it wasn't really all that bad, because I knew there wasn't anything I could do about it. I just let it happen. I can't tell you for how long it went on, not short, not long, but stopped eventually.

Now at this point I'm not sure exactly what happens, because after this point, I forget everthing. I forgot what just happened, I forgot what I was doing, what drug I was doing, why I was doing it, what I was supposed to be doing. Everything. It all went away. I couldn't remember things about myself which everyone should remember about themselves. So I freaked out. Not super freaky, just like, what the fuck is going on.

I turn to my friend and his girlfriend, both really blurry, on the bed and try to articulate: "I don't even know what's going on". It comes out like: "I I I dhahon't eveeeeen knnnnnoooooowwwwww, I doooon't eeeeeeven knnnnnnoooooowww whaaaahttt'ssss goooooiiiiiinnngggg oonnnnnn." It was really hard for me to get that out. But basically I was trying to ask them for help, because I really had no clue what was happening.

This caused my friend's girlfriend to want to leave, to go sit on the roof, so as to be alone and unbothered. I was still on the beanbag in front of the door, out of it. She and my friend were asking me to move, repeatedly, because I wasn't really hearing them. Eventually it got through to me, so I look up at his girlfriend, and see her, golden and glowing. I proclaimed, "You are beautiful". And she really was. She thanked me. I moved and she left the room.

I think after this I get up, also a challenge. My friend also gets up and is telling me that I should sit down again. I was having none of it. As I was looking at him, his eyes were criss-crossing back and forth, and I could see swirls and lines around his head. I begin to get a little bit of myself back together, and realize I wasn't really in that room, but a part of the universe. The feeling was amazing. I felt like I could go anywhere, do anything. I felt like I had become a superhuman, an alien, a being in another dimension. But at the same time I was physically in the room, in my body.

I was talking to my friend, not sure about what, but for some reason I knew I could go through him, physically. I tried. Didn't work. Didn't stop me from trying more though. I was talking really fast, and making weird noises, kinda like singing, but just playing with what I thought was a super-control of my vocal cords not previously known by me. Excitement, happiness, hyper-ness, wonder; all were running through me. I still had a hard time remembering things, so I was telling my friend to teach me about things. He tried, but I couldn't keep my concentration on what he was saying, random thoughts kept distracting me.

Sometime during this I remember the DMT trying to seduce me, to put me into a trance I think. I resisted. I'm not sure why but at this point things from my past came into my mind. "This is the serpent, the snake from the garden from adam and eve, and it is tempting me with knowledge." I asked my friend if he was good or evil, because he was the one that gave me the spice. This seduction also took the form of wild energy raging through my body. As I focused on it, I felt like I could control it, to harness the energy. It was a good feeling.

We wanted to check on my friend's girlfriend, for she had been absent this whole time. We went outside the room, and my other roommate down the hall opened his door and asked us to keep our voices down. I went up to him and said, "I can explain everything." I proceeded into his room, yelling, "I'm on DMT!" and jumped onto his bed, did a quick half circle, jumped back off, and left.

When I got back to the room, my friend said he was going to go check on his girlfriend, and left me to my self, saying that I could take another hit of the DMT, and just let it take me. I didn't. I sat there and thought about all that had happened so far, and sobered up. I was on his bed but decided to sit cross-legged on the floor. Eventually he and his girl came back and we talked about each of our experiences. A little while later I went to bed.



So that's pretty much what happened. Exact order of events might be wrong, as it all was a little bit blurry afterwards. One of the best things about it was the sense of oneness with the universe. Like I said, I didn't feel like I was in the room anymore, but just a point in a very very large space.

What I'd like to know about this experience is if the melting/dying part of the trip is usual, and also the same of the forgetting part.

There's also another thing that I'd like to mention about what happened afterwards. As I was trying to fall asleep, I experienced mini trips of melting again, but not dying. I think it happened a couple of times, maybe 2 or three. Also, after falling asleep the next night, waking up in the morning worried about oversleeping, only to see I woke up way before my alarm, and going back to sleep again, I dreamed. I dreamed of music and of a music stand. The music stand started waving around, and when it did, the melting happened again. This again happened the next night. As I was sleeping, and dreaming, I melted again, and woke up. I decided to meditate. I meditated a awhile, and started to dream again/see images, except I was awake. Is that a form of lucid dreaming? During this I melted again, except just in my feet. I tried to let it take me again, but nothing more happened. Has any of this happened to anyone else?
 
Hey there,
Just want to make an update. Again last night I awoke to another mini trip. I try to accept it, and to let it run it's course, but I find myself resisting it. It's a little bit uncomfortable, the trying-to-accept and the resisting. It's like give and take, or playing tug-o-war with myself. Does anyone have any insights into this, or any suggestions as to what to do? I'm just a little confused and am looking for some ideas as to what I can do.

Thanks
 
hello anoldsoul , thanks for sharing ! sounds like interesting experience

but next time try to keep everything calm without any noise , no need to move or do anything just relax and enjoy .. and be careful :)

and i think its impossible to describe what you see or feel ! enjoy this sacred magic :)
 
Very nice report. Yea I have had similar experiences with dreaming. I sometimes have felt some kind of psychedelia nights after taking DMT. Ive seen images being flashed at an alarming rate as well as kind of alien vibes and have felt the carrier wave coming on strong in my dreams but I cannot let go, it is a very weird uncomfortable sensation, at which I sometimes awake from in sleep paralysis.
 
cyberdream said:
hello anoldsoul , thanks for sharing ! sounds like interesting experience

but next time try to keep everything calm without any noise , no need to move or do anything just relax and enjoy .. and be careful :)

and i think its impossible to describe what you see or feel ! enjoy this sacred magic :)

Hey there cyberdream, thanks for the advice. I knew that keeping calm without noise and not moving was what I was supposed to do going into the trip, but as I said, after the initial onset of the experience, I forgot everything. That's when I opened my eyes and got up and moved around. Oh well, live and learn right? Oh, and listen to fellow hyperspace travelers I suppose :) how long have you been venturing into the beyond for?
 
tele said:
DMT is a super entheogen sounds better:d

This! But doesn't entheogen mean "within the body"? A drug within the body? I guess it's a neurotransmitter though right? I don't really know the technicalities of what defines a drug, but I think it's close enough ;)
 
Sublime said:
Very nice report. Yea I have had similar experiences with dreaming. I sometimes have felt some kind of psychedelia nights after taking DMT. Ive seen images being flashed at an alarming rate as well as kind of alien vibes and have felt the carrier wave coming on strong in my dreams but I cannot let go, it is a very weird uncomfortable sensation, at which I sometimes awake from in sleep paralysis.

Sublime,
It's good to know that what I've been experiencing isn't so out of the ordinary *shrugs a sigh of relief*
it's interesting what you say about feeling the alien vibes and the carrier wave; that's what I feel too. The craziest part about it is that it happens while I'm asleep, so waking up to it is rather strange. Uncomfortable too; however I'm training myself to submit to it, which as eased the tension some, and lowered the uncomfortableness of it. Never woken up paralyzed though >.<

Hey I also wanted to say that I really like your picture and your signature tag. The picture is super tripppy and reminds me sorta of the Mandelbrot set, a super cool equation that when put into visualization, is really cool. There's a program that lets your play around with it. You should check it out if you've never done it before :)

Your signature strikes a cord with me too. This is because there have been many things in my life, that because I ignored or avoided, enslaved me. This took the form of school work a couple years back in my first year of college. I for some reason refused to do my work, study, or even go to class. Because I didn't confront and do the stuff, it was always on the back of my mind, making me worried, tense, and very stressed out; enslaved.
I think that the mastering part of it comes in the form of situations. If something arises and you need to do something about it, but don't, it's a problem. But if you confront it, the situation will be under control, or mastered.

Thanks for taking the time to read my account, and to respond back, I appreciate it.

anoldsoul
 
Hey I figure I might as well keep updating y'all about my nightly experiences, so here goes:

Last night rather than go to bed right away, I decid to meditate. I lay in bed with a Moldavite piece on my chest, over my heart chakra (Moldavite is a meteorite that helps you along your spiritual path by resonating at a very high vibrational frequency; that high frequency is supposed to raise your vibrations and aid you in your journey).

Commence meditation.

I did normal meditation techniques, breathing in and out and focusing on my breath. I came to a point where I could think about things and did so. I got to a pretty deep state of meditation, bordering on sleep, but managing to keep consciousness. At some point the DMT kicks in, but I'm ready for it, because I'm not asleep. I manage to keep calm and not tense up too much. It wasn't so bad this way. I let it do it's thing, which was just that initial onset of my first DMT trip, that sorta feeling of melting, or as Sublime put it, the alien vibes and carrier wave.

Not much happened while it was going on, I think I saw some slight visuals, geometric shapes mostly and shortly, but nothing super vivid. I think the most important thing about the experience is that I was able to keep calm, and to submit more to it. I'm very happy about this :) :)

I'll let y'all know what happens tonight
 
Wikipedia quote on entheogen:

in the strict sense, is a psychoactive substance used in a religious, shamanic, or spiritual context.
 
anoldsoul said:
tele said:
DMT is a super entheogen sounds better:d

This! But doesn't entheogen mean "within the body"? A drug within the body? I guess it's a neurotransmitter though right? I don't really know the technicalities of what defines a drug, but I think it's close enough ;)

Here you are confusing entheogen, with the word endogenous.

Endogenous = Endo(within) + Genous(Generated) = generated within

Entheogen = En(to cause) + Theo(God/spirit) + Gen(That which produces) = to cause that which produces God/spirit


So DMT is an endogenous molecule, naturally generated within the human body, and is also an enthogen as it is a substances that produces "God" or spiritual experiences when ingested.

Just thought I'd break it down to clear up the confusion. 😉
 
Your welcome thank you for your input. I need to start experimenting again to get to experiencing this once again, I cannot stray from the path that has been subjected to me. Its almost like the sadness of wasted talent in life. Keep us up to date on how you are progressing, Ill do the same. Have you tried melatonin? I try taking it a few hours before sleep and go into meditation before bed, this helps lucidity in dreams as well as really being focused and rejuvenated the next morning. Have a good one.
 
hello anoldsoul... nice report. my first dmt trip had very similar "dying" feeling and i definitely forgot most of what happened. white light. crystalline chrysanthemum fractal. ego loss. bout all i remember. its a shame your friends caused so much commotion while you were tripping. definitely recommend a peaceful setting with ambient lighting and soft music such as solfeggio frequencies or meditation music.

on the subject of dreaming... im in the process of posting a trip report where i visit a dimension i instantly recognize as the dream state... and ever since that trip ive been entering into a strange in-between state right before sleep, where i feel im tuning into a dmt state. the most recent incident involved feeling as if i was merging with my boyfriend energetically as he slept next to me, and i could read his thoughts and felt we were one. granted, i am a lucid dreamer and wonder how much of it is the basic idea of life influencing dreams, as i have been very active using psychedelics lately.

yes, moldavite is a very good crystal to have with you while journeying, it definitely helps you tune into alien energy... but be careful if you are sensing discomfort with its energy. i recommend amethyst as a really good one to ground and calm you as well as support your third eye chakra. i use different crystals every time i trip for different purposes. id love to start a thread on peoples thoughts on which crystals they feel are most suitable for use with dmt.

much love and happy travels!
 
{DMT Psychonaut} said:
So DMT is an endogenous molecule, naturally generated within the human body, and is also an enthogen as it is a substances that produces "God" or spiritual experiences when ingested.

Thanks for clearing this up. Silly ol' me mixing words up again =P

{Sublime} said:
Have you tried melatonin? I try taking it a few hours before sleep and go into meditation before bed, this helps lucidity in dreams as well as really being focused and rejuvenated the next morning.

I've never taken melatonin, or felt the need to I guess. Melatonin is another endogenous substance right? It's the thing that makes you sleepy? What does it have to do with dreaming?

{monatomicgold} said:
hello anoldsoul... nice report. my first dmt trip had very similar "dying" feeling and i definitely forgot most of what happened. white light. crystalline chrysanthemum fractal. ego loss. bout all i remember. its a shame your friends caused so much commotion while you were tripping. definitely recommend a peaceful setting with ambient lighting and soft music such as solfeggio frequencies or meditation music.

Thanks! I think the feeling of dying is what made me forget everything. Like you said, ego loss. I lost my ego, and therefore couldn't remember anything about it. Also, it is a mini version of that dying experience I first felt that I feel again when I awake from sleep and start semi-tripping.

My friends reacted to me moving around. It was me that made my one friend leave the room. Not their fault. I was the one causing the commotion. After I forgot everything, I freaked out a little bit and asked my friends what was going on, and then proceeded to get up and move around.


{monatomoicgold} said:
on the subject of dreaming... im in the process of posting a trip report where i visit a dimension i instantly recognize as the dream state... and ever since that trip ive been entering into a strange in-between state right before sleep, where i feel im tuning into a dmt state. the most recent incident involved feeling as if i was merging with my boyfriend energetically as he slept next to me, and i could read his thoughts and felt we were one. granted, i am a lucid dreamer and wonder how much of it is the basic idea of life influencing dreams, as i have been very active using psychedelics lately.

That feeling you're experiencing, the one before going to bed, this happened to me two nights ago. I was preparing for bed, and I could feel the onsets of the dmt state. I sat cross legged on my bed and tried to tune into it more, because I knew that it wouldn't leave me alone. I played with it some, actually opening my eyes and looking outside at a tree. If I focused a certain way, the state intensified. I wasn't able to do much with it, but I know the feeling you're talking about.

I'm not much of a lucid dreamer. I've only ever had one lucid dream, and it was very short. I fell down on this platform, and when I did, I realized I was dreaming. I was like oh shit, I'm dreaming, I want to fly. But the excitement of it made me wake up :(

{monatomicgold} said:
yes, moldavite is a very good crystal to have with you while journeying, it definitely helps you tune into alien energy... but be careful if you are sensing discomfort with its energy. i recommend amethyst as a really good one to ground and calm you as well as support your third eye chakra. i use different crystals every time i trip for different purposes. id love to start a thread on peoples thoughts on which crystals they feel are most suitable for use with dmt.

I'll give amethyst a try :) also the thread you posted is very good
 
Hey there everybody, just giving an update as to what's been happening the past couple of nights.

Three nights ago, Monday night, was one of the more intense trips that I've had since the original trip. It was one of those have-to-hold-on-for-the-ride things. Kinda uncomfortable ya know. I'm not sure why this is happening to me. Is my brain just now producing more dmt while I sleep? Why is it doing that? Some thought's I've had is that it is trying to help me get used to the dmt state, so that the next time I smoke dmt and try to breakthrough, I don't freak out as much.

Two nights ago was my experience with the onset of the dmt state before I even laid down to sleep.

Last night was almost free of dmt state. There was a brief period after waking up from a dream that I experienced a tiny tiny amount of the dmt, but nothing of note really. The only interesting thing about it is how little it was. The dream I had before waking up was more interesting. I dreamed I was in some sort of shootout, and I guess I got shot. I think I died. Then a guy shouted, "Karl! go on without me, it's the least you can do" and I ran for this door. I had the feeling that multiple realities were happening, that's why it didn't matter that the dude shouting didn't make it. Weird dream all in all. I woke up and then the onset of dmt happened, but only minutely.

Anyways, that's what's been going on with me the past few nights. Feel free to ask any questions, I'll answer as best I can.

Thanks,

anoldsoul
 
thanks for the reports. rick strassman suggests in dmt: the spirit molecule dmt is naturally released in the brain by the pineal gland during normal sleep, so its possible now that you've been exercising your pineal gland by working with spice you are naturally more inclined to experience a heightened dmt state while dreaming. i know for me, since i've been working with spice my dreams now have a distinct dmt flavor. nom nom!
 
monatomicgold said:
thanks for the reports. rick strassman suggests in dmt: the spirit molecule dmt is naturally released in the brain by the pineal gland during normal sleep, so its possible now that you've been exercising your pineal gland by working with spice you are naturally more inclined to experience a heightened dmt state while dreaming. i know for me, since i've been working with spice my dreams now have a distinct dmt flavor. nom nom!

His theory was debunked a while back, check this out.
 
Hey I just want to add one thing about breath-focus meditation style, because it was something I did not hear during my meditation beginnings. If/when parts of these words resonate for you use them, parts that do not feel true do not use them.

Falling asleep during meditation for me means I'm not paying enough attention to my breath - I'm being lazy, slacking, whatever words people like to use to describe not paying attention to something. Generally I say meditation should feel more like mountain climbing or sword fighting than sleeping. On the edge of (ego) death, barely able to hold on, giving absolutely everything you have to give (attention), completely losing who/what you are in the giving. 20 minutes of that is a much different experience than sleep, in my experience, and the reality one finds their self in after is also rather different. The dream state is probably important in itself, I've had some lucid dreams during different lifestyle practices, but mostly I'm uninterested in dreams. I hear dreams have significance somewhere, but my path hasn't shown me much of genuine significance there.

also I recommend to ALWAYS use some form of external timer you trust with your life. Otherwise it will be basically impossible for your survival mind to stop paying attention to the time-tracking part of itself. Or will be looking for sleep to come. Wondering how long you've been meditating/how much is left is attention removed from breath.

Again, I don't know what's right for you, I'm only offering my perspective, and if you do anything because someone says so I would consider you young and foolish; I believe the most important thing for all of us is to follow our own internal sense of the deepest truth we have experienced and have as much integrity to that as we can - always practicing towards a deeper sense of truth and integrity to it in every moment, the complexity of reality requires different paths for different people.

Sorry for carrying on I just want to make sure it's clear that I don't think I know what you should do, especially with something like meditation where there are so many lost egocentric assholes thinking they know the 'right' way to do it lol. But I felt compelled to share this in case it may be of use.


Peace and Love
 
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