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DMT KILLED ME!!! NO ALCOHOL AND DMT!!!!

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tropane

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SWIM woke up about 20 minutes ago...
He has NO CLUE why he spent time with Dimitri.
He cannot remember a damn thing....
and, SWIM is still quite fucked up.

SWIM spent his time about 6 hours earlier with some relatives.
They spent maybe an hour in nature outside a buddy's place..
All was peaceful .. mind you, a bit confusing but, peaceful...

SWIM later drank maybe 3 beers and took about 4 shots with a pal...
This is the power of DMT an alcohol...

SWIM cannot put into words what kind of hell he wnt through.
All he knows is, he was DEAD...

He "woke up" when his dad was walking past his room...
All he could say is "I'm sorry dad."

SWIM went through HELL tonight..
Rather, purgatory or such..
He ceased to exist....
As he told a relative, "I'm glad I'm not allowed to own a gun."

He cannot remember what possesed him to smoke some DMT.
He just returned from HELL saying repeatedly "I'm sorry Dad."
IDK what else to say right now...

When SWIM's mind is 100% clear tomorrow, I'm sure he'll tell me more.
This is why I advise people to avoid DMT and alcohol....
Just to hear a human's voice was HEAVEN...

I'll post SWIM's details tomorrow...
Until then, avoid DMT and alcohol, please!
 
SWIM has smoked DMT drunk many times and always had profound and rewarding experiences. Well, drunk and on a little mescaline.
I'd guess it was your attitude while drunk that did it, not the spice and booze combination itself.

There's a thread about it somewhere- the general consensus was that it's a waste of spice because it dumbs down the visions.
 
Let me tell you...
I know EXACTLY what you are talking about. Recently, at a party, SWIM and his girl met a couple guys who invited us back to thier place to smoke a little tree.
Long story short, SWIM takes ONE HIT of spice, and experiences the most profound ego death experience of his life. SWIM tried to fight it and stay in this plane. You cannot fight this. SWIM thought he overdosed and had most definately died.
DO NOT PLAY WITH THIS STUFF
cheers
 
SWIm attempted aya and alcohol to see what it would be like. SWIM wishes had taken everyone's recommendations. SWIM has no alcohol tolerance, the aya acted as a dam to the alcohol and once it wore off later in the night, SWIM purged hard and blacked out. The initial mixed feeling was interesting but not worth the end result. Somehow eneded making their way back home, thankfully SWIM was out drinking with friends. The one time swim mixed with 2ci was much gentler yet not interesting.

most stupid combo of swim's life. further affirms SWIM's dislike of alcohol and knows to never mix any psych and the substance ever again.
 
In my experience, alcohol doesn't mix well with anything really.

I reckon it can work well with D but only in small quantities, to relax you beforehand --> My friend has introduced other friends to it after say one or two drinks just so they are a bit more chilled.

Personally speaking though, to relax himself, my friend tends to meditate, do yoga or if he hasn't journeyed in a while and has the fear, he smokes a bit early in the day to remind himself that it's all good.

He would never trip on more alcohol and when drunk and tempted he always restrains himself.
 
I don't find any problem with alcohol and spice until I'm drunk. I find it makes me very sick indeed if I drink too much with it. A few social drinks and a bit of tipsiness are fine for me though.
 
SWIM and many other SWIMs have had no problems using DMT while drinking. If anything it decreases the effects a little if higher doses of alcohol are taken.
Although interestingly alcohol increases the amount of acetaldehyde which causes an increase in the levels of certain b-carbolines and isoquinolines in the brain. These may act as MAOI or have some other effect on DMT metabolism/activity. There is great variability in the metabolism of alcohol and this may account for the differences in subjective effects of DMT ingestion post alcohol consumption.
 
I tried to mix alcohol and DMT once.

Before a pharmahuasca journey I took a few beers in the hope to get the anxiety down a bit. Although the anxiety got a bit down it also meant I couldn't focus anymore to release the anxiety so in the end it didn't help a bit. I never mixed with alcohol again.
 
[quote='Coatl]Why in the world are you people mixing alcohol and DMT?[/quote]
Because drunks are adventurous and playful, after a few beers you really want to visit the elves when you get home!
Smoking is a different experience to aya. SWIM can't imagine wanting to do aya in that mood, even if it weren't dangerous to do so.
 
ohayoco said:
[quote='Coatl]Why in the world are you people mixing alcohol and DMT?
Because drunks are adventurous and playful, after a few beers you really want to visit the elves when you get home!
Smoking is a different experience to aya. SWIM can't imagine wanting to do aya in that mood, even if it weren't dangerous to do so.[/quote]

Buddy.. You hit the nail perfectly.
While drinking, SWIM cannot control himself if he knows he has DMT.
Alcohol turns DMT into crack for him... It's horrible.

And yes... he knows and admits he should quit drinking...
it's something he's working on.
 
SWIM is sort of a drunk..well he likes to drink a lot..and for a few months..a few months ago..he would come home after drinking and smoke spice..he did this for a few months..and at first..he was still able to enter hyperspace..but after awhile..he would smoke it..and then...he would wake up..unsure if he had even smoked the stuff...so he would check his pipe..and sure enough he had smoked it...but with no memory of smoking it..and no memory of anything after that...so he would try it again...and still...no memory..it was like being blocked from hyperspace..and it sucked..so he doesnt smoke it while drunk anymore...he smokes bufotenine when drunk..to get the nice tryptamine feel..with some visuals..and then lays in bed and goes to sleep...

just to wake up still tripping slightly and feeling awesome..
 
tropane said:
While drinking, SWIM cannot control himself if he knows he has DMT.
Alcohol turns DMT into crack for him... It's horrible.
This is very interesting. SWIM really wants to go in and has no fear when he is drunk... yet still it is a profoundly religious experience. In fact, when he's been drinking it is MORE spiritual for him, less of a lightshow... he will be holding his face in oneness with the universe.

However, SWIM always has 5g Peruvian Torch when he goes out, and that really reduces the amount he drinks, while still keeping him feeling gooood. So I guess for him it's an alcohol/mescaline/DMT experience really. He hasn't had more than 7 drinks in 1 night in over 6 months because of it, and usually only has three or four. Seriously, try it, buy a big bag of cactus- 5g before going out- you'll never look back, and your liver will thank you for it.
 
So I guess for him it's an alcohol/mescaline/DMT experience really. He hasn't had more than 7 drinks in 1 night in over 6 months because of it, and usually only has three or four. Seriously, try it, buy a big bag of cactus- 5g before going out- you'll never look back, and your liver will thank you for it.

Sounds like a good combo, I'd like to try that, does the cactus produce any nausea? SWIM always loved fungus when drunk, not a big dose, but a nice light 1.7g.
 
[quote='Coatl]Why in the world are you people mixing alcohol and DMT?
[/quote]
Because it is very nice. That's what SWIM says. SWIM also asks whether you have tried this combination or if you are condemning it from habit or ignorance.

SWIM also says that this combo may not appeal to some people. Just as dmt alone does not appeal to many people. Simple.
 
My friend (stupidly) had the urge to do this after a few drinks the other night. The spice kindly reminded him how much of a blessing it is and (politely) told him not to do it again or there would be hell to pay.

My friend has taken the advice to heart.

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K
 
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