i do have access to acacia confusa, but i tried 20g bark with 4 g syrian rue, all I felt was the rue. Im not sure if the confusa powder is legit, or if im taking it wrong. I tried taking the powder by both eating it and drinking it after boiling, but nothing. Im putting my attention to other plants if there is any suggestions.
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dmt plant suggestions in japan?
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For AC, you'd likely only get acceptable results at that dosage level if it was the root bark.
On a more experimental limb, it may be worth looking into Lespedeza japonica or similar Lespedeza species, but they're like to be highly variable in content, ranging from basically nothing to maybe just about enough.
Caution would also be imperative since some species of lespedeza may (also) produce 5-MeO-DMT (IIRC), which could prove dangerous or even fatal in combination with rue alkaloids. You'd really need to get your background research straight if embarking on that path, including learning some basic analytical and presumptive reagent test methods.
Psilocybin mushrooms can, of course, be found growing in Japan too, so there's always that. And don't forget about Phalaris and Phragmites grasses/reeds, either.
Hope this helps, we have a decent amount of resources here about these things, so it's as much a matter of how much attention you're willing to invest.
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I've found that AC bark, if old or taken from a wind damaged section of a tree whose injury is not fresh, has very low content. I refuse to kill trees, so I don't bother with the root bark. You're better off with the phyllodes.
I tried the a/b extraction for 200g acacia confusa powder and yielded essentially nothing but a large amount of yellow/orange-ish oil? I'm not sure if its gunk or just the alkaloids. My first extraction, yielded plenty of confusion. The [label] of the powder just says acacia confusa powder, but not necessarily bark.
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AC often yields oil, partly on account of it NMT content. You can use it as such, or apply some further methods and processes to obtain a crystalline product.
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unfortunately I have no idea whether it is from an active tree or not, the vendor does not talk about it. May I ask what difference would it make if it came from an active tree?
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If your extract used material from an active tree, smoking it will be like firing a Rick and Morty portal gun and walking into another realm that will also be quite sensual due to, I'm guessing, the NMT.
In my experience, acacias, unlike mimosa hostillis, do not reliably yield crystals. They reliably yield goo. Sometimes the goo does nothing. Sometimes it'll give you a dreamy body buzz that will put you to sleep for up to an hour (NMT, I'm guessing). And sometimes, you'll get exactly what you're looking for: a trip to "hyperspace."
I've read that acacias have a high degree of genetic variation. I'm no scientist, but a simple walk in the woods will show you tall, straight, proud trees; trees that are bendy and twisty; short, scraggly C-shaped fellows; and bushes.
I'm encouraging myself as much as I'm encouraging you here: doing a TLC test will be the most scientific way to tell you what you've got.
performed a 50g extraction today, currently waiting on the freezing. I realized that I have been getting quite a lot of emulsion in between the naphtha and acacia soup. I preserved the emulsion part, and was wondering if I can get some more dmt out of it. What exactly is this emulsion? is it a mix of naphtha, alkaloids, and soup? or is it gunk? Btw I'm using the exact measurements of cyb's a/b 50g extract, except its ac bark instead of mhrb.
TheGreenPhantom
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I've found that by increasing the temperature of your heat bath, the emulsion will resolve quicker. You may also want to try different types and brands of solvents – they're not all created equal.
Is Naptha an acceptable solvent for NMT? I use Xylene on ACRB. My SWAG (Scientific Wild Ass Guess) is that the bark I have is mediocre or low in DMT but reasonably high in NMT. Goo extracted from it is good, but feels kinda "buzzy". However, a fairly small amount of that goo added to some MHRB changa makes things a bit more euphoric and longer lasting.
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I believe so, though I've yet to run a TLC test to see for sure.
The buzzy, euphoric feeling I associate with NMT. I've run extractions on bark from old, wind-damaged sections where all I get is a mild, buzzy bodyload similar to a good strain of cannabis for 20-30 minutes. If I do it in the evening, it puts me to sleep for an hour, and gives me more hypnogogic visuals that I'd normally have.
From the Wiki
"Soluble in methanol, warm ethanol, dichloromethane & choloroform. Soluble to some extent in naphtha (not nearly as much as DMT). It seemed only partially soluble in warm acetic acid. It is likely soluble in xylene."
So, I always figured that Naptha was a poor solvent for NMT. I'd love to hear your ultimate results on it since Xylene is nasty to use. A couple extractions with Naptha and one with Xylene like for MHRB would be much nicer.
I really much prefer my changa to have just a little NMT. Pure ACRB extract is OK. Pure MHRB is much better. But the MHRB with a small amount of the ACRB is perfect.
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Well, you just made me want to whip up some chloroform and experiment! Thanks for the idea
!...now I'm also wondering what the buzz is all about... further testing must be done....
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when I extracted the naphtha, the oil is milky yellow, after freeze precipitation and letting the naphtha(Zippo) to dry, everything disappears on my plate. There seems to be this white oil smear on it? I'm not sure what it is and I have not been able to yield anything scrapable so far. Im going to try n hexane and a new acrb supplier.
That's the spice!
ACRB often results in goo, as well as solvent evaporation. A mini AB helps in getting xtals.
I FINNALLY SUCEEDED! I changed a new [bark], and even though the yield was still very minimal, i was able to combine it with my previous oil smear dry dishes tiny yields together into one dose. Drank 3.5 rue with an unknown amount of acrb oil smears ( didn't want to risk losing spice from transferring to weighing dish) and was able to see visuals. The purging was slightly traumatic though, i eventually fell asleep during my trip. All i remembered from the trip was glitching out of the real world and ummm, i guess I spent most of my dmt dream doom scrolling through dmt Instagram. Felt really silly when I woke up.
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Glad to hear it worked out (no particular reason why it shouldn't, of course).
Do you have any particular plans for a more focussed exploration in future?
Oily smears can be highly potent - they weigh more than you think! (Cue @Voidmatrix's now-infamous two vials photo…)
Please weigh your doses in future. I don't think you'd be entirely happy with getting your ass as thoroughly kicked as this stuff is capable of doing. Preparation is everything (and also, paradoxically, maybe futile). Developing a regular meditation practice is strongly recommended.
Do you have any particular plans for a more focussed exploration in future?
Oily smears can be highly potent - they weigh more than you think! (Cue @Voidmatrix's now-infamous two vials photo…)
Please weigh your doses in future. I don't think you'd be entirely happy with getting your ass as thoroughly kicked as this stuff is capable of doing. Preparation is everything (and also, paradoxically, maybe futile). Developing a regular meditation practice is strongly recommended.
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And the question, as ever, is - which vial contains more DMT?
