DMT Re-X Results and Pics

[Pennyless_Sitar_Player]

Hi guys,

I was back at my favorite restaurant this morning, and luckily, was seated next to this fellow describing for a friend his first DMT Re-X process - well, his first ever Re-X actually. Below is a list of the steps he followed and some pictures he had uploaded to a website, the URL for which I seem to have misplaced after they were downloaded.

Anyway, he described the following, which yielded roughly 351 mg crystalline material from about 400 mg of mostly white product, which was previously retrieved from powdered MHRB using a very straight forward STB extraction. He tried following the steps outlined in the MIT video, which he found in a sticky post by SWIMfriend back in the Nursery.


Initial dissolve:

1) Heptane was heated in a water bath to 90*C.

2) Enough heptane was added to dissolve the product (~40ml), and the solution allowed to heat for five minutes. Afterward, the solution was clear, yellowish, with no discernible solids.

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De-coloration - Hot Filtering:

3) A small amount of activated charcoal was added and stirred well with a glass rod. A noticeable decrease in the yellow color occurred. The solution was allowed to heat with the charcoal for another five minutes.

4) Prepare filter by placing fluted filter paper into glass funnel, and funnel, into flask.

5) A fluted filter was prepared by adding a coffee filter to a glass funnel over a volumetric flask.

Hot solvent was dripped on the filter paper to heat it.

The solution was poured through the funnel to remove the charcoal. This did NOT work entirely. Small grains of charcoal made it through he coffee filter.

The process had to be repeated using Whatman filter paper - 125 cm Fast paper, folded to create the flutes. The Whatman paper grabbed all the charcoal.

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Reheat and Allow to Sit
6) After filtering, the solution was again allowed to heat for 10 minutes.

7) The solution was removed form the heat bath, placed in a neoprene sleeve to insulate, covered with foil, and allowed to sit for until reaching room temperature.

8 ) The foil was removed so the heptane could evaporate, and the beaker allowed to sit for four days undisturbed. The final 24 hours was spent in front of a box fan running on low to help remove the heptane.

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Overall, he's happy with the result, but thinks he can do better next time and reduce the loss.

 

[endlessness]

Good work, and nice set up! Thanks for the trouble of making the pictures, explanations and sharing with us

 

[Pennyless_Sitar_Player]

Thanks endlessness.

I just thought of something, is there a difference in dosage between powdered and crystalline DMT that one should account for?

SWIM is planning their first DMT experience and was planning to start off low, at about 10mg. But, suddenly he's concerned that 10mg of crystals might not be the same as 10mg of powder.

Good work, and nice set up! Thanks for the trouble of making the pictures, explanations and sharing with us

 

[endlessness]

Considering an effective vaporization method in both cases, I dont see why there would be any difference. 10mg should make you feel something but will most likely not be a breakthrough or near. Personally I dont like low doses, I find them dysphoric, more of the weird effects and less of the real "cake", but considering its your first time its reasonable. I think it sounds prudent, not a bad idea.

Good luck and come back to tell us how it went!

 

[Shaolin]

Thanks endlessness.

I just thought of something, is there a difference in dosage between powdered and crystalline DMT that one should account for?

That would actually change the world as we know it. No joke.

I wondering though, you used quite a bit of heptane. Were you very generous with it or nothing dissolved with lower amounts ?

Love the lab porn.

 

[MelCat]

Nice pictorial! Thanks for sharing. I hadn't thought of using activated charcoal to remove the yellow.
I personally kinda like the yellow spice.

Just curious, where can I find a full sized image of your avatar?

That thing is pretty sweet looking.

 

[soulfood]

Thanks endlessness.

I just thought of something, is there a difference in dosage between powdered and crystalline DMT that one should account for?

I alway re-x to a nice clear glassy crystal form then redesolve into IPA and evap, then scrape it to a powder. Obviously the powder vapes much quicker than crystals so it's easier to deliver the dose you have, but I wouldn't say it's that much more potent. Unless of course by powder you mean lesser pure DMT.

 

[Pennyless_Sitar_Player]

I wondering though, you used quite a bit of heptane. Were you very generous with it or nothing dissolved with lower amounts ?

Hi Shaolin. Yeah, 40ml was too much, that was a mistake based on bad technique I think. Even though hot solvent was used, it was introduced to the product and stirred while outside of the heat bath - causing it to cool. A better approach probably would have been 10ml stirred while in the heat bath. That's in my notes for next time.

Love the lab porn.

lol.. "lab porn", that's great. Two reasons for that. One, I'm really trying to develop good, repeatable lab skills. The less I have to concentrate on "how" to do something, the better able I am to concentrate on "what" I'm doing. Second, I need a clean, very well organized work area or I'm prone to making silly mistakes. Having dedicated equipment helps both of those. We're lucky to live in an era when Ebay makes it so inexpensive to equip a small lab!

 

[Pennyless_Sitar_Player]

Thanks Melodic. Yeah, the charcoal thing worked great. You could see the yellow disappearing as soon it was stirred. I have to credit the MIT video on recrystallization for that one. They have a page full of great lab techniques actually, and hundreds available on youtube. Here's the post with the link:

Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos - FAQ - All your basic questions and answers - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

Unfortunately, I don't have a link to the avatar image. I just found it on Google, and it was only 258x195. They credited lsdex.ru with the graphic, but I couldn't find it on their site. They do have a lot though, it could be there somewhere.

Nice pictorial! Thanks for sharing. I hadn't thought of using activated charcoal to remove the yellow.
I personally kinda like the yellow spice.

Just curious, where can I find a full sized image of your avatar?

That thing is pretty sweet looking.

 

[SpiralNeuroEclipse]

:shock: absolutely beautiful my freind...

The neoprene insulation just allows for a more gradual cooldown, resulting in larger crystals right?

But how did you prevent the crystals from oxidizing? Was it just the foil? Most crystals i see that are slow evapped always oxidize at least a little...They're so squeeky clean

Bravo

 

[Pennyless_Sitar_Player]

Hi soulfood. Yep, I just realized that, of course, potency should be more a function of purity than physical form. It would make sense for crystals and powder of the same purity to have similar potential. Should have thought that one through a bit more.

Thanks for mentioning the IPA step. I'm going to give that a try.

I alway re-x to a nice clear glassy crystal form then redesolve into IPA and evap, then scrape it to a powder. Obviously the powder vapes much quicker than crystals so it's easier to deliver the dose you have, but I wouldn't say it's that much more potent. Unless of course by powder you mean lesser pure DMT.

 

[Pennyless_Sitar_Player]

Thanks endlessness, I will definitely be reporting back on the experience. The first go will be in the shallow end, just to be sure there's no strange, unexpected reaction. After my feet are wet a little I'll start dialing it up. Interesting really, I have to know it's safe to let go before I can actually do so. That's something to ponder.

Considering an effective vaporization method in both cases, I dont see why there would be any difference. 10mg should make you feel something but will most likely not be a breakthrough or near. Personally I dont like low doses, I find them dysphoric, more of the weird effects and less of the real "cake", but considering its your first time its reasonable. I think it sounds prudent, not a bad idea.

Good luck and come back to tell us how it went!

 

[Pennyless_Sitar_Player]

Thanks Spiral! Yes, the neoprene sleeve is intended to slow the cooldown and allow large crystals to form. Not important to the product I guess, they just look cool. I have to credit the MIT video with that tip - those guys know their stuff (I guess they wouldn't be MIT if they didn't)

As for the lack of oxidation... good question. I don't really know. The MIT instructor said to cover the beaker while it cooled, but didn't say why. That might be it. In all honesty, I was surprised it even worked!

:shock: absolutely beautiful my freind...

The neoprene insulation just allows for a more gradual cooldown, resulting in larger crystals right?

But how did you prevent the crystals from oxidizing? Was it just the foil? Most crystals i see that are slow evapped always oxidize at least a little...They're so squeeky clean

Bravo

 

[SpiralNeuroEclipse]

So you just covered during cooldown, and then took off the lid and evapped?

Was it in a dark room? Would you say there was constant airflow?

Man those are some beauties!! Those are going to repay you a millionfold for your love and patience

 

[Autodidactic]

impressive setup man, the crystals look really good too.

 

[Pennyless_Sitar_Player]

Yep, that's exactly right. I left it covered until it reached room temperature. Well, technically, it was covered for about 12 hours - it may have reached room temperature before that. Then, the cover was removed and it sat undisturbed for two-and-a-half days in a dark, still garage at an average ambient temperature of about 12*C.

I could see there was still heptane in there, and a mass of something that I hoped were crystals, so I placed a box fan behind it on low for another 24 hours. After that the beaker was dry so I removed it from the sleeve and found what is pictured. Overall, it was about four days, but I had used too much heptane in the beginning.

So you just covered during cooldown, and then took off the lid and evapped?

Was it in a dark room? Would you say there was constant airflow?

Man those are some beauties!! Those are going to repay you a millionfold for your love and patience

 

[Pennyless_Sitar_Player]

Thanks Autodidactic. It was a lot of fun, can't wait to try it again. There's still about 1.2 grams of raw material left, so round 2 is right around the corner.

impressive setup man, the crystals look really good too.

 

[PrimateSphinx]

those crystals are beautiful!

 

[SoulCrushingBass]

Not bad. Waaaaay too complicated! Cmon check this out. I take my scrapings straight to a test tube. Add some heptane, from say, "un-du" from the craft store (sticker and label remover). Just about a half inch. Heat a little bit at a time. I heated too much in the pic, just wanted an example pic, the top should stay CLEAR, if it gets cloudy, let sit for an hour and try again. If clear on top and yellow bottom, suck out top layer and put in small jar like the one by the lighter. Repeat 2 more times and add to jar. Take jar with combinations and heat in water and shake to make sure its all gonna fall off sides, then rest at room temp at a 45 degree angle for a day to 2 days in dark. The angle let's impurities fall to corner. Room temp, NOT COLD. Warm is slow is which means better crystals. Also cold will male impurities stay with good stuff cause precipitation happens and no separation happens. My resulting jar looks the same as the one at the top of the beginning of post, I just don't have a pic now. Then, pour heptane into another jar to save and reuse. Let jar dry and scrape good stuff out, and boom.

But...icehouse says the yellow is the best, so I have to test.

 

[SoulCrushingBass]

Oh yeah. Yellow is way potent. Harsh as f--- though, and stains my glass pipe.