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DMT vs CANCER

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sentient

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I am curious. Does ingesting DMT alkalize your blood? Its impossible for cancer to exist in an alkaline environment. So if it does in fact do so that would mean by ingesting DMT you are defending your body from cancer, no?
 
No.

What is that thing with cancer not being able to survive in alkaline environment?. Getting the facts straight,

1) most lifeforms do not feel happy at very alkaline environments. Including your cells and cancer cells and fungal cells and bacterial cells.

2) DMT does not make your blood alkaline. Blood has a pH of 7.2 to 7.4 and it is heavily buffered.

3) A totally weak alkaline substance such as dmt would not be able to change the pH of the blood if it was dissolved in it.

Sooo, it is unknown if dmt can fight cancer cells. But IF it actually does so then the mechanisms of action is very unlikely to be due to changes in the alkalinity of blood.

And bear in mind that there are so many different cancers as there are people on earth. Each cancer is a totally different "organism" and can be different from other cancers. Not a single drug or substance can cure all forms of cancer.
 
im pretty sure the pH in the blood cannot change significantly because there are pH buffers that prevent any dangerous changes. If our blood became significantly alkaline, it would bring about many other dangerous negative changes, so I think 'diminishing cancer' thing would not really be so relevant (if this thing of cancer and alkalinity is true, which I dont know, just following your line of reasoning)

edit; infundibulum beat me to it
 
Here is a discussion on the matter:

"Ever wondered why the heart never gets a cancer. The heart might get affected eventually by cancer of any other part of the body but we never hear of cancer of the heart. This is because the heart never gets cancer. Alkaline diet is perhaps the only permanent way to prevent and rid oneself of cancer.

Let us understand what causes cancer and how an alkaline diet can prevent it. Each cell in our body takes in oxygen, nutrients and glucose while throws out toxins. These cells are protected by the immune system. But as the body gets acidic the immune system gets overpowered by the toxins and the cell looses its capacity to take in oxygen and thus ferments. This cell gets cancer affected and is lost. The next question is can cancer be prevented and cured by consuming an alkaline diet. Cancer cells lie dormant in a ph of 7.4 but as the body gets alkalized higher and the ph level reaches 8.4 these malignant cells die off. So the answer to cancer lies in an extremely alkaline diet. When the alkaline diet will result in a high alkaline body ph the cancer cells cannot live in that environment and die off.

Cancer cells being anaerobic cannot live in oxygen. They can only thrive in very low oxygen conditions. When the ph of the body is maintained by consuming an alkaline diet the immune system of the body stays strong. This leads to the cells getting enough oxygen and discarding their toxin waste. Cancer will neither thrive nor take birth under such circumstances.

How does an alkaline diet prevent cancer? An alkaline diet leads to a high alkaline body ph. This high alkaline body ph results in alkaline tissues in the body. Alkaline tissues hold 20 times more oxygen than acidic tissues. Cancer cannot live in an oxygenated atmosphere. If the cells are oxygen rich they will prevent cancer. Therefore while an acidic tissue will be an ideal ground for cancer to develop as well as spread, an alkaline tissue will destroy a cancer cell. Having a lot of green vegetables and fruits along with alkaline water can save you from cancer. An alkaline diet requires one to eat foods that are high alkalizing while avoiding the acidifying foods.

An alkaline diet is very beneficial in fighting many diseases apart from cancer. Alkaline supplements are good ways to include alkaline food in your diet. Over cooking of vegetables leads to their nutrients being destroyed. Alkaline supplements make sure one gets enough alkalizing foods in a day. Also alkaline water is a good alternative to ordinary water. So if you want your body to be cancer free as well as healthy and energetic adopt an alkaline diet and make it your way of life." -By Will Johnson
 
well, not even one source is cited.. seems like the advertisement for some 'alkali supplement' company..

of course, if there are any facts in this, would be interesting to know, but its definitely gonna have to come from something other than this text... who's will johnson?
 
LOL. I dont know if the FDA will call it a cure if that's what your looking for.I dont know who Will is nor do I care, but thhe fact that there are many articles on the web(which are not selling alkaline products) that say basically the same thing, has me interested. Im not trying to say it is a cure or it isnt, but there is definitely some science to what these people are saying, and I am interested in the possibility.

Here is another link:

 
I dont care about the FDA because it is a very much political and biased agency, and I dont live in USA.. but some good experiments and investigations with well designed methods is more the type of info that can give something credibility.

Im also very interested in ways of being healthier and so on, and it doesnt have to be announced by the mainstream for me to believe. But there are loads of nonsense on the internet too, so its good to have the crap-meter on.

I had heard about alkalinity of food before from some people in the university where I used to study, and it was something called 'Biochip'. Its these people that believe in only eating 'alive' food, nothing in decomposition state, not even cooking things (only maybe light vapour heating or these kind of things). They ate a lot of germinated seeds, sprouts and so on.. They talked about how cooking process made products acidic, and there was a whole quite sound reasoning behind it.

The main woman, Ana Branco, was quite an intelligent person, and she never asked people to believe in what she said, that everyone should check for themselves.. Also they never claimed it cured cancer, though there was one case there when a friend of mine was taking the class (it was an optional class one could take), a woman had a very bad intestine cancer, and participating on the class she changed from one day to the next her eating habits and only ate 'alive' food. She said for a while it hurt to go to the bathroom and it smelled very bad, but then after 6 months, the doctors examined and the terminal (I think, or at least very bad) cancer she had was completely gone, and they couldnt explain it.

Its one more of these odd stories out there, and its no proof, but it makes one wonder. Loads of spontaneous remission of cancer are related to very dramatic life changes, of eating habits, relationships, etc etc. Cancer seems to have a greatly emotional and general health-related aspect, but its hard to pinpoint any specific cause or cure, as its a network of 'unharmonious/unhealthy' forces that act and certain weak points of the body allow for the appearance of cancer. I mean, if you think about it, cancer is basically mutated cells that have 'forgotten' their unity to the body and begin to multiply and grow 'selfishly'. Like us humans somehow (though it also seems we can 'work as an organism', and this is what I think we all hope)
 
Living a healthy and balanced life style can cure cancer. Doesn't mean it will and it doesn't mean you should avoid life saving treatment but it certainly should be part of any cancer treatment program.

Cancer is way more complicated then alkaline or acidic body conditions. As as already been pointed your blood needs to maintain a certain pH. Infact I am not going to waste my time discussing this. sorry. damn internet.
 
endlessness said:
I dont care about the FDA because it is a very much political and biased agency, and I dont live in USA.. but some good experiments and investigations with well designed methods is more the type of info that can give something credibility.

Im also very interested in ways of being healthier and so on, and it doesnt have to be announced by the mainstream for me to believe. But there are loads of nonsense on the internet too, so its good to have the crap-meter on.

I had heard about alkalinity of food before from some people in the university where I used to study, and it was something called 'Biochip'. Its these people that believe in only eating 'alive' food, nothing in decomposition state, not even cooking things (only maybe light vapour heating or these kind of things). They ate a lot of germinated seeds, sprouts and so on.. They talked about how cooking process made products acidic, and there was a whole quite sound reasoning behind it.

The main woman, Ana Branco, was quite an intelligent person, and she never asked people to believe in what she said, that everyone should check for themselves.. Also they never claimed it cured cancer, though there was one case there when a friend of mine was taking the class (it was an optional class one could take), a woman had a very bad intestine cancer, and participating on the class she changed from one day to the next her eating habits and only ate 'alive' food. She said for a while it hurt to go to the bathroom and it smelled very bad, but then after 6 months, the doctors examined and the terminal (I think, or at least very bad) cancer she had was completely gone, and they couldnt explain it.

Its one more of these odd stories out there, and its no proof, but it makes one wonder. Loads of spontaneous remission of cancer are related to very dramatic life changes, of eating habits, relationships, etc etc. Cancer seems to have a greatly emotional and general health-related aspect, but its hard to pinpoint any specific cause or cure, as its a network of 'unharmonious/unhealthy' forces that act and certain weak points of the body allow for the appearance of cancer. I mean, if you think about it, cancer is basically mutated cells that have 'forgotten' their unity to the body and begin to multiply and grow 'selfishly'. Like us humans somehow (though it also seems we can 'work as an organism', and this is what I think we all hope)

Very well put. Thanks for putting this fourth.
 
well yes even possibly be a part of the cure.. I think there have been a few remissions that happened after deep ayahuasca work.. but again, as burnt said its important to have a network of treatments and healthy changes, not putting all the eggs in one basket.
 
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