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Does smoking DMT in Life interfere with the Death process?

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caktalfraktal

Rising Star
Let go of everything you thought you knew
and trust the neurotransmitter with every atom of your existence.

You are speaking misconceptions...the spice will show you the way.
 
Whe I first started reaserching Spice I heard about that somewhere along the way

After discovering Spice I never even thought about that again.

۩ said:
Let go of everything you thought you knew
and trust the neurotransmitter with every atom of your existence.

You are speaking misconceptions...the spice will show you the way.

ye the spice will show you the way, this is really something very special.
 
Its only a theory that dmt is released in the moment of birth and death.. Its speculation like any other so I think its probably much more effective to use your energy and try to make your life good, enjoy every day, be generous to others, etc etc, and this will much more likely affect your death in a positive way, imo..

I try to use these substances exactly to help me with daily life.. I dont think I will be punished in some way or another at death by having used these substances, I have clear conscience.. but you have to decide for yourself and do whatever you feel is right.
 
Reports of actual NDE's, on the operating table etc. - dead relatives encouraging them to step into white light etc.- never sound a whole lot like DMT trips to me.
 
what about people that die very quickly and don't get the chance to secrete the dose of dmt? Or those that die in explosions that give the brain no time to release dmt, surely they must also enter the next cycle in 'life' as well. The only reason I could see that in a natural death why dmt is released is to not only take your core conscious/what you are but also take this life's 'baggage' as well, maybe the whole purpose of life is to live and when you die you take this raw energy of life experience with you. This ego of 'you' than partakes its role in the universe and than you enter back into life to recollect yet another life's experience, who knows?

The reasoning that you come back after a dmt trip is that your body is very good a breaking down the dmt molecule. Most likely every night you sleep your entering some form of hyperspace with your consciousness. I know that personally every night after taking dmt i now have very vivid, powerful, and indescribable dreams.

Don't worry about death, when you die, whatever is suppose to happen will happen.

Nothing can stop your consciousness/soul/spirit/your coreself from continuing whatever cycle that happens after death.

By taking DMT it may lead to the 'land of dead' but that is just one of many theories, all we know is that it is a existence created out of pure energy and knowledge. It consists of feelings, emotion, senses, and many other dimensions which are 'impossible' yet is not restrained by any physical or tangible barriers, it is infinite and nothing in every possible and impossible way. I find the feeling of dejavu and how hyperspace seems so familiar, like you've been there a million times before, very intriguing and is what really makes the experience so curiously enticing.

All i know is don't let your ego and fears get in your way of trying such a opportunity as this! Just go for it, than you can decide if you regret it or not later on.
 
I think heaven and hell are thing people create while alive here on earth..

Forget everything you have read about DMT and psychedelic...it's all irrelevant unless you have personally been there. All this talk about experiencing endogenous DMT and DMT release upon death is wild speculation at best..

I think that we can have endogenous psychedelic experiences..but it's more a tryptamine mix..pinoline, melatonin, 5meo, 5-ho DMT etc all probabily play a role..

I dont think you should be worrying about DMT experiences ruining your death experience..worry about your life while you are still here..life is one huge friggin mystery..all we have are our experiences..and IMO psychedelics are one experience I am damn thankful for being able to explore.

Shamans have been doing this forever..it's a part of life.
 
caktalfraktal said:
Maybe the Mushroom was created for the purpose of exploring these dimensions but without effecting our death?

Maybe..I doubt it though..about death..isnt it better to be ready and accepting of the cycles of life and death before hand?..why worry about some DMT trip at the moments of death and limit what you learn and experience while here..

I dont think things are created for one single purpose..I dont think mushrooms are only here to serve mankinds exploration of reality..although that is certainly one of the purposes they serve..many people use them that way anyway..

If you do choose to do DMT or mushrooms..you need to let go and stop worrying about finding one single purpose it it all etc..you wont find it..things just are.

If there are things we aren't sopposed to do than I dont think they will be possible..other than that all bets are off....
 
well if you have already taken high doses of mushrooms than you probabily have a good handle on what a DMT breakthrough is like..

psilocin(4-ho-DMT) is extremely similar to DMT..if you take enough mushrooms you will have a breakthrough probabily on par with smoked DMT..but much much longer.

If you are worried about identifying a natural DMT trip as exactly that from taking DMT..well DMT is so similar to mushrooms it doesnt really matter..
 
caktalfraktal said:
Yes I know, these people may have never smoked DMT.. I'm conserned that if I do, then when that white light comes, I'll recognize it as a dmt experience, instead of having the dead relatives encouraging me to step into the light I may have something else that isnt the exact dose supposed to be released when we die, I'll probably end up trying it anyways I just figure its something for us all to consider.

brother....when YOU die, there will no longer be a YOU to recognize diddly poop. ;) a proper breakthrough will simply give you a taste of this "selflessness" which, in my humble opinion, can only serve to help you in this world by instilling in YOU the awareness that YOU are actually so much more than YOU realize....

just my two cents ;)

LOVE AND GRATITUDE!!
 
What if DMT helps you to become enlightened and thus frees you from the wheel of suffering, etc? There are all sorts of possibilities, and every single one of them could be true, however obscure. Follow your heart, that's all any of us can do. And most of all, don't worry :)
 
caktalfraktal said:
Hey there, I've been wanting to try smoked DMT for quite some time now, but someone braught to my attention that If DMT is released uppon entry to this dimension, and uppon final exist, Well it makes me wonder if smoking it in this life would interfere with the release when we die... I'm worried that when we Die, if we smoke DMT we might recognize the death experience as a temporary DMT trip, and it won't be as liberating as it could be.

Also, makes me wonder if the DMT flush was meant to be to release you from your body in time of death, and when you smoke it, you get released but then your body doesn't die, so you are forced to come back. I wonder if you leave and then come back, and leave and come back, and keep doing DMT through a smoked drug form, Maybe some how your brain wouldn't appropriately Flush when we die.

This has been a major consern of mine, and would like any insight on the issue..

Thanks so much!

Hummmm... released upon entery to this dimension and the world ends 2012 wonder how that rumor got started. It cant be Terrance because dead men tell no tales...I can almost see him on the other side of the viel pissed off and screaming "I never said That! or THAT......That is not what I ment, GOD DAMNIT how long is this FUCKED up loop going to last.

As Terrances says to himself ride it out,....its ok just ......ride it out .......who cares what they think.......ride it out

RIP TMK! respect his memory by not twisting his speculative imagination to fit the needs of POP CULTURE MORONS(sorry)

Terrance was/is real POP CULTURE is a illusion brought to you by the JONES. Try to keep up if you wish, for me I am over that long ago

You been reading to much mystic BS mix it 50/50 with science and facts and you will have a good balance for the perception of reality.

Almost forgot :) :) Welcome to the NEXUS friend.


PEACE

MV
 
caktalfraktal said:
Hey there, I've been wanting to try smoked DMT for quite some time now, but someone braught to my attention that If DMT is released uppon entry to this dimension, and uppon final exist, Well it makes me wonder if smoking it in this life would interfere with the release when we die... I'm worried that when we Die, if we smoke DMT we might recognize the death experience as a temporary DMT trip, and it won't be as liberating as it could be.

Also, makes me wonder if the DMT flush was meant to be to release you from your body in time of death, and when you smoke it, you get released but then your body doesn't die, so you are forced to come back. I wonder if you leave and then come back, and leave and come back, and keep doing DMT through a smoked drug form, Maybe some how your brain wouldn't appropriately Flush when we die.

This has been a major consern of mine, and would like any insight on the issue..

Thanks so much!

After death is DMT.
 
Complete death experiences are part and parcel of the Ayahuasca experience.

Imagine: a person starts to feel like he is dying, his life flashes before his eyes, he feels himself as a formless essence oozing from a body that disintegrates, he becomes pure energy, he feels insanity when everything is one and the same, his thoughts about himself, his personality, his wants and desires, all of that fades into nothing...

Death...

And beyond that, after death, there is still pure consciousness, That Which Always Observes. Pure consciousness needs no body, needs no thoughts, needs no identity, is ultimately everywhere and in everything... But, sometimes it's great to forget all of that and play dress-up! :) On a grand and cosmic scale.

If one can find the fortitude to go beyond death, ideas of the self and even of the universe, there is still an observing consciousness beyond anything the mind vaguely relates to.

I feel very well equipped for the afterlife.

There was another dream, where the Earth appeared to be a giant receptacle, and upon death, the body is parked into the soil and recycled. Organic rent-a-car. Earth energy, and graves, are like portals--there could be other portals, too, but this was the particular one that was explored. A tall figure clothed in black with a scythe stood underground before a thick wooden door with a heavy-duty iron lock. A peek into the door revealed highly intricate skeletal systems performing complex tasks underground, beyond total comprehension; The Gatekeeper stood, unmoving, while The Teacher seemed to admonish, "Remember him!" A brief and sheepish hello was uttered, and finally, the lesson was allowed to progress.

Rumor has it the Tibetan Book of the Dead isn't actually about DEATH--it's about mystical death and rebirth, resonates a lot with psychedelic experiences.

To flip the coin, for people worried about burning out a possible death experience, here is one last thing to contemplate: the human brain has actually started shrinking, and for many years the species has been under stress in a number of unnatural environments (we have only prevailed because of our brilliance). Just look at the skyrocketing prevalence of depression and degradation of the seratonergic system in modern society. What if we have become deficient? What if the earliest purposes of psychedelics was to restore a connection to something that was lost? (Therefore: DMT should be explored much more, and this exploration, IMHO, should take priority!)

http://www.brainwaving.com/?p=377 (my favorite author EVER!)
 
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