does this look like DMT?

[starway6]

I was extracting from 120 grams of AC confusa bark and after emptying my napatha pull from this small jar into evaporation dish. and when empty jar dryed.. it had this crusty white film that i scraped into what looked like posible crystals?
All of my napatha was evaporated in another glass dish leaving the semi clear to amber goo on bottom of dish..
I thought i waited long enough..but worried i [may].. have not waited long enough for seperation when doing carbonate wash and maybe this white crusty flake was just carbonate that didnt seporate durring the wash.. ?
I disposed of this nice looking white flake i scraped from the walls of empth napatha jar..
Instead ..[ not having access to a freezer]..i evaporated all of the napatha in the evaporation dish with fan to get a final product on bottom of dish..it was a semi clear oil or wax full spectrum ..
I wonder if anyone can tell if this ..[white crusty flake[]..looks like DMT or just dryed carbonate?
thanks...

 

[alert]

Does it smell like DMT?

 

[DreaMTripper]

Does it smoke like dmt?

 

[changalvia]

I highly* doubt any sodium carb crossed over into your naptha unless you plled some water with it, even then, negligible amounts, nothing near that amount..

What's the yield?

What's the average confusa mixed alkaloid yield?

Sound about right?

Sweet

Also, I'm under the impression that if a layer is seen, there can only be naptha in the water, and no water can be in the naptha, so don't worry about that if the layer was distinct.. All that would have happened was you would see more naptha separate in the jar after you had pulled the first amount

 

[Michal_R]

Does it freak you out like DMT?

 

[3rdI]

it looks like white powder, no one can really say anymore than that with any certainty.

 

[endlessness]

FAQ - DMT Frequently Asked Questions and Troubleshooting Guide - DMT-Nexus Wiki

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[starway6]

Ok to make this more understandable... all the naphtha was poured out of this jar into an evaporation dish..[note..all the naphtha pulled sat in this jar for at least 5 days before i tryed to evaporate it!]
[[during the 5 days it was subjected to temps from 85 degrees to 55 degrees because i had it stashed in trunk of my car...]]
this white crusty stuff stuck on sides and bottom of empty [turned upside down jar]
appeared after it dried...!
The bulk of the naphtha was evaporated in a glass dish producing the usual goo...

This jar was empty before i turned it upside down near the fan...and it produced this white crusty stuff that scraped off easily and crushed into a nice coarse powder!

I put a tiny bit of it on my tongue and it didn't burn my tong but ..[i thought].. it had a little sting to it.. and i worried about possible lye contamination and disposed of it..

during extraction..I was very care-full separating the naphtha from lye water mix below using a pipette...
This yield appeared to be close to two grams maybe a little more..

I THINK... that...because i let the naphtha pull sit 5 days in jar..the dmt rich naphtha tryed to precipitate while in the jar...sticking to walls and bottom of jar.. crystallizing during cooler temps at night.. and melting during higher temps during the day time.. and as this happened it remained stuck to the glass as i emptied all of the naphtha into separate dish...[just a theory]

After emptying the bulk of the naphtha into seperate dish there was a film stuck on sides and bottom of empty jar that upon drying produced this white stuff..

I should have tryed a little of this stuff ..i may have thrown away most of the NN DMT ?
Or it may have been ..something else?
Any way this makes me want to try another batch and let the solvent sit 5 or more days because..
[ IF ]..this white stuff was NN DMT].. this means that letting the naphtha sit long enough in jar encourages the DMT to separate naturally!! .. and stick to sides og glass because all the goo stayed with the naphtha that was poured out...

This stuff scraped very easily from jar producing a nice coarse white powder!
I used the AB tec with this but did no de fating at all..

Im not really a good chemist at all.. and would appreciate hearing from someone with more knowledge of chemistry to comment on this..
Thanks...

 

[Entheogenerator]

Ok, first off, why on earth would you have it stored in the trunk of your car for 5 days??

Second, it is really encouraged that one doesn't throw anything away until they are completely finished with the process. You're right, you probably threw away a lot of DMT. When placed on the tongue, DMT freebase can cause a slight stinging/burning sensation. Let me be very clear here:

PLACING A CHEMICAL IN YOUR MOUTH IS NOT A GOOD WAY TO DETERMINE WHAT IT IS!!!!!

I really can't think of a worse way to identify a chemical, aside from IV'ing it.

Third, if the NAPTHA is heated before it is put into the solution to pull the DMT, then yes some of the DMT will precipitate as it cools. But not all of it. If the NAPHTHA was room-temperature to begin with, it will not precipitate until the volume is reduced or until the temperature is lowered (i.e. freeze-precipitating). DMT will not precipitate out of NAPHTHA if it is just sitting in a jar at room-temperature for 5 days.

It really isn't necessary for you to say "Im not really a good chemist at all", that much is implied. I strongly encourage you to do a lot of research and reading before you proceed with DMT extraction. There is so much information on this site and others that will teach you how to do these things without endangering yourself or others. I really can't think of a good reason for a person to have any part of an extraction "stashed in the trunk" of their car, other than not having an adequate workspace. You really shouldn't mess with things like solvents and lye without some knowledge of what you are doing. Please, please, please, do some research on basic chemistry, plant extractions, and proper chemical handling procedure.

 

[starway6]

Well thanks for your post..
I like many ..am not a good chemist.. but i did follow the AB tec that most can do by simply following instructions..
saftey is always my first concern!
I did no de fatting or pre freezing and came out with an active reasonably safe smokable product..
My reasons for keeping it in my car was intended so it would heat durring the day and cool at night..
In effect i crowded a large amount of dmt alkaoids ..in a small amount of napatha..
Then i stored the [dmt heavy napatha] for almost a week as an experament to see the results...
Im just sharing my results ...and i really didnt throw the dmt away.. i just re desolved it in warm napatha with the goo and re washed it again in carbonate..[my mistake]

Then after re evaporating it i got full spectrum goo which was active and smokable..
My mistake was not smoking the white flakes in the pictures above but i feared lye contamination..

So yes i made a mistake...but live and learn..

What i like is the posibility that ..[i may or may not]/.. have found a way to seperate a white dmt from the rest of the oils and waxes of acacia confusa in a simple way without freezeing it ..
This white stuff was quite dry [free of waxes and oils]..and crumbled into a coarse powder..
Many things in life are found by accident..
Blessings...

 

[Entheogenerator]

I apologize, my last post may have seemed like the judgments of a condescending jerk. It's just that for me, if I have any shred of concern about lye contamination, the last thing I would want to do is put it in my mouth. I also got the impression that you had all this white powder, tasted it, then threw it in the garbage. Theoretically, it is unlikely that lye will make it through to the final product, assuming great caution was used to separate the solvent without pulling any of the lower aqueous layer. But if you manage to repeat the experiment, and end up with some nice white flakes again, here's an idea that should work to test for lye:

Take a few mL water and test the pH, remember this pH reading. Next, mix a small amount of the powder with the water. The freebase DMT will not dissolve in room-temperature water, but the lye (if there is any) will. Let the undissolved particles settle, then test the pH of the water again. If the pH has risen, then there was most likely lye in the product. If it is the same, then it should be lye- free.

It sounds like this experiment may have followed a similar line of thinking as the recrystallization procedures. They are very effective in purifying full spectrum extracts, if you decide to go that route.

Again, I apologize if I sounded rude before. I just worry about the consequences when I think someone on The Nexus is not taking proper safety precautions.

 

[starway6]

Take a few mL water and test the pH, remember this pH reading. Next, mix a small amount of the powder with the water. The freebase DMT will not dissolve in room-temperature water, but the lye (if there is any) will. Let the undissolved particles settle, then test the pH of the water again. If the pH has risen, then there was most likely lye in the product. If it is the same, then it should be lye- free.




Its ok..i should have explained it better..
When I saw all this clean looking white stuff from acacia confusa bark]....i thought it was too good to be true.. and thought lye may have gotten through..but im pretty carefull with a pipette and wouldent let that much through..and only used a pinch of carbonate during the wash..
Anyway more testing needs to be done and your idea above sounds good ill try it soon!
And keep updateing this ..[anyone else who cares to should try this method]
Im basicly putting a lot of DMT alcaloids in a very small amount of napatha.. and heating it up to 100 or more degrees durring the day ..
[because a car gets very hot durring the day]..and cooling it down over night...for several days causing it to seperate and stick to the glass alowing me to pour off most of the undesireable fats and waxes with the napatha then quickly drying the film stuck to the inside of the jar..
This still needs more proof...cheers...

 

[Entheogenerator]

Im basicly putting a lot of DMT alcaloids in a very small amount of napatha.. and heating it up to 100 or more degrees durring the day ..
[because a car gets very hot durring the day]..and cooling it down over night...for several days causing it to seperate and stick to the glass alowing me to pour off most of the undesireable fats and waxes with the napatha then quickly drying the film stuck to the inside of the jar..
This still needs more proof...cheers...

Yea that makes sense. It's basically the same idea as recrystallizing. Saturate hot naphtha with DMT, gradually cool to precipitate DMT leaving other stuff behind in naphtha. Not a bad idea.

 

[expandaneum]

dissolve your product in naphtha then
do this

Vovin's tek - DMT-Nexus Wiki

wiki.dmt-nexus.me

step 7
to make sure there´s no lye in your product

 

[starway6]

[Ice precipitation method].. of acacia confusa dmt bark..

After doing a new 200 gram Acacia Confusa extraction this time a little differently and much faster than method above.. i got some promising results...
Basically using ..Thick lights excellent extraction method.. using AC bark .. 5 white vinegar acid boils...[minus pre freezing]
Then using a hefty amount of lye ..enough that the glass vessel was too hot to hold for over an hour and a half..
After mixing in the naphtha . and getting 5 pulls ..not having a freezer.. i tryed using ice to precipitate the dmt...
Just out of curiosity i buried all 5 pulls in single sealed jar under ice for the intire night ..[temp between 35 and 38 degrees].. and upon checking several times during the night and in morning ..here are my photos..
In the last photo the precipitated material has lost almost all of the naphtha Oder but at this point needs more drying because it seems somewhat pasty...
So far it has that great DMT smell!.. but needs more drying yet..
View below these little globes of delight!

first photo shows clip of excellent separation of material from naphtha from
[ice precipitation].. of DMT...
Note how perfectly the material separates in clip and is lying on the bottom of jar!...
But with movement of hand the material stirs up and trys to migrate into the naphtha above...
The way i separated the naphtha was to carefully hold jar without much movement to avoid stirring upbelow the sediment .
Then pipetting off most of the naphtha as seen in photos below..
Then more photos of different stages evaporating more of the naphtha....

 

[alert]

i tryed using ice to precipitate the dmt...
Just out of curiosity i buried all 5 pulls in single sealed jar under ice for the intire night ..[temp between 35 and 38 degrees].. and upon checking several times during the night and in morning

Hah, that is certainly one way to do it. If you do this again in the future you would be better off not checking on it multiple times and just letting it sit undisturbed. That naphtha is still cloudy as hell so you can tell a lot of the DMT has yet to crash out.

I'll give you an A for effort though!

 

[starway6]

I believe it is working!.. and here are more photos i couldent send earlyer in order..
Just read my post again and observe these photos and on clip if i can get in uploaded!
stand by...

 

[starway6]

Ok after taking 5 pulls i thought the bark was exhausted but tryed to get more pulls..
I added sea salt to ..[what i thought was spent bark].. and got another half gram of the cleanest looking DMT crystals! mostly floating in the napatha..
At first the recent pulls were slightly yellow but after taking two more pulls they were clear to milky ..
I again used ice over night and it worked perfectly as most of the crystals were floating and very easy to pour through a coffie filter and the stuff that stayed in jar dryed easily!
So yes the ice methoud works with Acacia Confusa bark!...pictures below...

 

[Shadowman-x]

yes.

its dmt.
smell it!