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Doing DMT instead of fent/meth while pregnant?

Fringe Wizard

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I have an obese Native American friend who is heavily addicted to all drugs that is pregnant and has been pregnant for awhile now while continuing to do fentanyl and meth every day and she has never done DMT but wants to do it and see if it can help her. I don't know if her baby is already ruined given the extremely unhealthy lifestyle and drugs she does but would she be potentially helping herself by using DMT?
 
Wow, that's a difficult question to answer. There are so many variables at play. In any case, I think it's unwise to recommend the ingestion of any consciousness-altering substance while pregnant.

Considering the question discusses something so sensitive that can potentially lead to a loss of life, I'll say the DMT-Nexus is not the right place to discuss matters of this kind.

The only legit recommendation I can give is for you friend to seek professional medical help and I hope it's not too late to reverse any damage that might have been done to both her and her unborn child.
 
Is there a better site to discuss this then maybe on deepnet that isn't full of cowards that defer to "the authorities"? She already lives in a place for addicts with doctors present but that ain't stopping her smoking hard drugs like a fiend. Psychedelics have the potential to change behaviours like addiction and end it. In this case it could mean saving a life, assuming it is not already too late for that baby. I would like to know if anyone has been able to quit meth and fent with DMT? As for effects of DMT on the baby I read about some native groups where pregnant women take DMT and there are no problems. I highly doubt DMT is as dangerous as fent & meth.
 
Yes, people have been able to quit things like meth, fent, heroin etc with the help of psychedelics, DMT included. I don't know what you read and where, but in this case, this individual you are asking on behalf of might have all sorts of medical complications resulting from prolonged abuse of "hard" drugs. These complications might include an exceptionally weak heart.

Profoundly intense experiences like those often induced by DMT might not be suitable for people with cardiac problems. And that's just one problem that might arise from abuse of meth and fent. Nobody is saying DMT is as dangerous as those two. What I'm trying to convey is that introducing a powerful, exceptionally intense substance into the mind of someone that might already be severely weakened by substance abuse, might produce the opposite effect of what you're hoping for.

There's no need to be arrogant and passive-aggressive. Again, if you're waiting for someone to greenlight your salvation plan and say "yes, let your pregnant obese addict friend consume one of the most intense substances known to man and hope things go well", you came to the wrong place. This might be a matter of life and death, and as such, the Nexus will not play the role of arbiter for what I consider quite obvious reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with courage.
 
I am definitely not giving her DMT then...

Passive aggressive? I think you mistake my character. My tone was meant to be beligerent, active agressive, tough, whatever. I come from anonymous imageboard culture and never uses these sites with accounts where everyone sucks each other off for fear of violating the groupthink. Anyways, your point about the heart is a good one, I am just going to ignore her and give her nothing. She has robbed me in the past and is a big criminal and I have been avoiding her but ran into her in my friend's hobo encampment who I was trading salvage with all night from my own encapment that I have been having to clear out before it all goes to the dump. She asked me about DMT and told me she wanted to do it. I will just ignore her. Her baby will probably die or be born like her aka born addicted to drugs. Not my problem. I don't want to give her DMT and she gets a heart attack that is just asking for trouble, in our "community" if someone dies it is not unusual for there to be a revenge killing, so fuck that.

Thanks for the advice: btw you obviously fear legal troubles. If you want me to be charitable I'll say "are weary of the potential for legal troubles". That is why I am better off going darknet for these kinds of discussions than on some clearnet site where mods have to worry about legal stuff. I live in an anarchic dystopia where legal fictions mean nothing but treating your fellow man right still matters. Instead of fearing the state we fear each other.
 
This is not just about legal repercussions. Above all, this is about having a realistic outlook on things. Considering the situation you have described, and the large number of variables at play, giving advice on this would simply be unreasonable. We cannot expect of our members to be reasonable and possess a certain amount of critical thinking capacity without exhibiting those qualities ourselves.

Best of luck, and I hope your friend gets the help she needs.
 
There is very limited research on the use of DMT during pregnancy, but given that it’s a powerful hallucinogen, it is highly unlikely that it would be safe or helpful, especially in an already high-risk situation. DMT could further destabilize her mental state and health, increasing the risk to herself and her baby.

Your friend needs immediate professional help. While she might be living in a place for addicts, her current situation shows that it’s not sufficient. She needs medical detox under supervision and perhaps a different treatment approach. Medical professionals can help mitigate the damage to her and the baby, though there is no way to undo the harm already caused by substance abuse.

On your attitude know that the belligerence in your tone is defensive and shuts down meaningful discussion. Instead of engaging with solutions or empathy, it encourages conflict. Here at the nexus we value free expression, but your tone and lack of understanding of what this platform is all about makes it difficult to help you.

While you may not control her choices, your involvement (even through inaction or passive decisions) can have profound consequences.
 
Nydex said:
This is not just about legal repercussions. Above all, this is about having a realistic outlook on things. Considering the situation you have described, and the large number of variables at play, giving advice on this would simply be unreasonable. We cannot expect of our members to be reasonable and possess a certain amount of critical thinking capacity without exhibiting those qualities ourselves.

Best of luck, and I hope your friend gets the help she needs.
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You just gave me advice though and I am going to act on your advice by ignoring her and not giving her DMT. Once, one of my frenemies who does tons of meth who I was sitting with in a broken down car during the winter, I put my watch on her. I saw her heartrate and explained to her that I would have to be sprinting to have my heartrate that high and she was just sitting there. Meth really makes the heartrate skyrocket. Someone else I know who is obese also has a really high heartrate while doing nothing. So imagine the combined effects of obesity, meth, and then DMT on top of that. To me that is a very serious risk.

I also shouldn't help people who hurt me but keep doing it anyways. I flipped a coin sometime ago and decided I would not talk to my friend anymore. She didn't see me as such as I never asked for her again at the shelter and in general I am just trying to hide away from methheads. I talk to the lifeguards at my local pool about gardening and philosophy and whatever else I want and for me that is just enough socialization now that I can maintain my feelings of isolation and sadness at a manageable level and carry on with survival and trying to better my own life. I am very telepathic and empathetic and have to try and be cold to people instead who are all a one way relationship.

Swami Vivekananda gives me the inspiration to just work on myself and let the world run itself. The world does not need me, I am here in the world for my own betterment. His book Karma Yoga really explains this well.
 
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Sabnock1990 said:
Man, people have absolutely no respect for life if they'd doing meth and shit while pregnant. Jesus christ man.
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While I agree that it's absolutely irresponsible and disrespectful towards life itself to do any kind of hard drugs while pregnant, I also recognize the fact that it's often much more complicated than it initially appears to be. I doubt this woman purposefully conceived a child knowing her current predicament.

It most likely happened accidentally and now she's in a situation where not taking the drugs she's addicted to will lead to severe withdrawal symptoms that can be life-threatening to both her and her unborn. However, taking them deals no less damage to her child either. It's a bad spot to be in.

I feel a lot of compassion for people that suffer from severe addictions, but on the other hand, some amount of personal responsibility should always be at hand, regardless if you're horribly addicted and homeless or not.

May fate be fortuitous for her and her child.
 
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