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Nakes

Nakes

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So, I've just had the most intense DMT trip of my life, once again. You're in for a long read, but trust me, it's worth it.

Here's a report I posted a while ago, I think I broke Time. - First steps in Hyperspace - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus. Extremely and related to this one.

Context: I've been reading about and watching lots of spirituality/consciousness/awareness type of stuff, and I'm not particularly sure if I believe any of it yet, but a lot of it seems to make sense. Mostly, becoming aware of ideas and concepts that are new but seem vaguely familiar. A lot of kind of positive thinking/shifting your reality through your ways of thinking/vibration type of stuff. I really don't know what to believe. Part of me thinks the whole idea is funny, then part of me thinks it's happening in my life, which thinks I should probably dismiss the idea of it being false because I could really be onto something, but there's a part of me who thinks it's still all just coincidence and silly thoughts. I guess it sorta feels like the transitioning period.

So, since my last trip, I've done a bit of experimenting. I did some low dose trial runs, and my observances have led me to believe that my hands have some sort of magnetic attraction to each other, and on high doses, a mind of their own, not attached to time. Yes, I'm serious. In my low dose trial runs, I would notice that if my hands were near each other, they would have this sort of "magnetic attraction" to them. If I put them in front of my face and focus my attention on them, it takes more "mental effort" to stop them from playing with each other. I try multitasking and my hands still have this attraction to each other, it becomes very difficult to focus my attention on other things when I have to force myself to keep my hands still while near each other. All extremely strange, but most definitely happening.

Anyways, I've been experimenting with different ways of smoking, I have a hard time breaking through a lot of the time, it's almost as though I'm being allowed or disallowed at certain times to enter. My method was a joint rolled with 70mg of 50:50 changa mixed with weed, and then 25mg in the GVG, consuming them in that order. Oh, and I guess it's worth a mention that I was very high on marijuana, but felt better than normal, "more in tune with things", I could say. I had the urge to smoke DMT and felt very good about it.

Thinking back now, I didn't have the idea in my mind to recreate the circumstances of my last trip, but it kinda ended up that way. put on a youtube playlist with some music that was new to me, which was pretty much the same thing I did at last trip (it was a different playlist this time). Oh man, it's all coming to me while I'm typing this, wow. As I sparked the joint, this song was playing
. As soon as I heard the whistling sounds in the song, I remember half jokingly that it was the entities way of telling me "Hey, we're here!". I smoked the joint, started to feel nice. No real hallucinations going on, but lots of headspace. I finished the joint, and picked up the pipe. I vaporized the full amount in the GVG. Put the pipe down, still no real hallucinations, but more headspace. Time starts to feel like it doesn't matter anymore, it's stopped becoming relevant. I remember closing my eyes, and seeing some kind of visuals, very grainy, I want to say mayan, but I couldn't really tell. I remember opening my eyes, looking at my toes, looking around the room, and it all seemed to be more visually appealing than what I was seeing with closed eyes. The song ended with the whistling, once again.

Here's the good part. The song ends, and I feel a jolt of energy in my entire being. Next thing I know, the next song comes on,
. What happens next is very hard to put into words. The words "Better days are coming to see, visions are for you and me, elevate your soul" pump though my earphones into my brain and pierce my consciousness. I experience a massive amount of euphoria, it feels like my being is exploding. I guess I could say I completely lost my ego. Next thing I know, I'm getting information shot into my head about time all coming together, and stuff along that line. It was the most pleasurable, intense, unbelievable thing I had ever experienced. It all felt extremely perfect, like time came together for this moment, to show me...something. I'm not in control of anything anymore, but I'm still in my reality just sitting in my bed. I'm not getting visuals, just tons of mental fuckery. The most I can say is, everything made sense, everything was perfect, everything was amazing.

I naturally look at my hands, and what do you know, they start dancing like fucking graceful majestic lovers, and in complete synchronization of the music I'm listening to, a song I had never heard before in my life. I just stared in amazement as they did their thing. The song ended, as did my hands graceful dance. The song ended, and there was a long blank gap at the end of the song. I was in awe and amazement at this point, as I pretty much just had some kind of strange religious/metaphysical experience. I try for the life of me words to think of, the only thing I can think to myself is magical, perfect, and something about time coming together. I then go into the comedown, which sucked. It was like my body and mind had to adapt to this reality or something, because I was unable to function at all for what felt like a very long time, but was probably only a few minutes. I curled up into a ball and my brain raced but couldn't focus on anything. When I finally was back to normal, I started typing this.

So what do I think of all this? Well shit, I don't know. I've had two possessed dancing hands episodes in a row, and now I receive information which I can only really think of as enlightenment. I can't say I understand much of anything, but I don't think I'm really supposed to. I think these DMT trips are signs to me that something is going to happen in the near future. I never really expected any of this out of DMT. My old idea of it was completely different of it than it is now. It's definitely changed my life, but I really can't say how.

Anyways, I felt obligated to share this trip. This is some serious shit.
 
Nakes said:
So what do I think of all this? Well shit, I don't know. I've had two possessed dancing hands episodes in a row, and now I receive information which I can only really think of as enlightenment. I can't say I understand much of anything, but I don't think I'm really supposed to. I think these DMT trips are signs to me that something is going to happen in the near future. I never really expected any of this out of DMT. My old idea of it was completely different of it than it is now. It's definitely changed my life, but I really can't say how.
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Greetings Nakes,

While it is largely seen as speculation and/or conjecture, I believe that there is a collective human memory data bank. Call it the Collective Unconscious (as Carl Jung did), or anything else that seems fitting, but there truly seems to be a significant amount of reports indicating it's reality. As ۩ suggested, you might look into the Indian system of hand mudras. I am of the opinion that we can inadvertently access these collective pools of information, especially under the influence of powerful psychedelics.

I experienced this phenomenon several times in my lifetime. Once, perhaps the most powerful example I can recall, occurred while completely sober. I was visiting Swami Satchidananda Ashram in Pomfret, Connecticut. Swamiji was giving Satsang (a brief lecture) about the power of the mind and the capacity for it to access "collective human consciousness". As this was the last day of a weekend retreat, the organizers had set up a talent show of sorts. Alice Coltrane was present (daughter of Jazz legend John Coltrane) and several musicians were inspired to play a song. Being a shy and introverted person, I did not offer to play anything, as I suffer from stage fright.

After a few poetry readings and vocal performances, Swamiji looked out across the large crowd and asked if there were any other musicians who had yet to play. A few people mentioned me and while I tried to shrink into the smallest fibers of the carpet, I could not escape my predicament. I brought out my classical flute and began to improvise a meditative tune.

Musically speaking, I play by ear and cannot, actually, the correct expression would be, I will not learn to read musical scores. After a few minutes meandering through a rather formless melody, suddenly I found myself entwined in a complex Indian Raga. (????) I was actually watching with disbelief, as my fingertips danced across the keys, with an expertise that defied my skills! This Raga continued for 3 or 4 minutes and ended in a series of long, harmonic drones. When I looked out at an assemblage of more than 300 smiling faces, it struck me that something larger than my understanding was at play.

The Swami was chuckling and said, "You are the very embodiment of Krishna. I have never heard such beautiful music." I was not the embodiment of anything, I was an astonished 3rd party witness to what had happened! All I could say was, "It wasn't me... " He grinned devilishly and said, "No it wasn't, was it? Who are you? Who is seeing from behind your eyes? Who lives behind the mask of ego? Ask this of yourself." This Swami had spent time living with and studying under the great soul, Sri Ramana Maharshi, so I was not confounded by his words. This great 20Th century sage is known for his method (or non method?) of self inquiry, whereby an individual asks him/herself, "Who am I?" (over and over and over again... throughout the entirety of one's lifetime).

I hesitate to imply that the Swami's Shakti (spiritual juice/energy) had anything to do with this manifestation but I cannot flatly deny that there may be something to this theory. I contend that there was an influence between he and I but this may well be illusory? Regardless, I had simply tapped into a level of thought, where a vast pool of collective knowledge is stored. Well, at least it appears before my subjective experience, to be something akin to this. How my fingers were able to dance to intricately across the body of my flute, remains a mystery to this day. I suspect that as the mind becomes interphased with the form and patterning of any idea, they assimilate it to translate into our physical body mechanics? BTW, while I have continued to play a number of varieties of flutes, for over 30 years since, I have never come close to being able to duplicate such an unusual experience, musically.

I once witnessed a similar phenomenon from an unlikely person with absolutely no training in dance, especially classical Indian dance. He just stood up and began to do the most fantastic movements with his arms, hands, legs and even his head! It was so funny because the look of total disbelief was written upon his middle-aged, professorial face.

I have on 2 or 3 occasions had a spontaneous hand mudra experience, as you have described. I suspect this is not so uncommon amongst psychonauts? It was under the saturation of LSD and I was astonished that I was creating the hand postures without any conscious thought process. There are many unknown energies at play, while merging with the calling of the various Sacred Medicines. I wish you well in your journey of awakening.

Peace, love & light
 
The hand movements could be kriyas. And you could have tapped into your kundalini.

It happened to me, with whole body kriyas and "the snake dance", and yes information as well, about space, time, perception, consciousness, a whole load of stuff. This lasted for at roughly a month in varying degrees, and did not involve DMT or any other drug (well, I did smoke weed). Almost like all of reality became unified dead centre (the centre of me).

You could have tapped into a mini kundalini episode.
 
Thanks for the input guys. After a bit of reading, I think I probably awakened my Kundalini. After some reflection today I can pretty much say for sure that I'm a spiritual person, I've kinda been on the fence until now. That's pretty cool with me.
 
I like to think enlightenment is what this journey is all about, DMT is the vehicle, meditation is the map.
 
Nakes said:
was like my body and mind had to adapt to this reality or something, because I was unable to function at all for what felt like a very long time, but was probably only a few minutes. I curled up into a ball and my brain raced but couldn't focus on anything. When I finally was back to normal, I started typing this.
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you experienced: a connection with something beyond your current reality, sense of timelessness, loss of self. =bliss=where was your sense of mind, of thinking during this?? non existent.

afterwars: return to self, thoughts return and mind starts racing like the tide of a ocean returning, than back to the equilibrium.

ive had a similar experience and afterwards found my 'equilibrium' self or natural state slowly drifting from constant thoughts/focus on the self/worrys/random nonsense with little oasis of silence between, to being in the moment and starting to have trust in the uncertainty of how it unfolds. its like being liberated from wearing this 50lb ego suit.
and suddenly you're BEING the moment and it is interactive as if it is reflective of you and it almost feels guided or propelled;a malleable experience. its real. you'll either read these just as the words they are, or sense what they are trying to point at. its great, hop on the train
 
Nakes said:
۩ said:
Might want to look into "Mudras"
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Thanks, hadn't heard the term before. I'll definitely look more into this.
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Not necissarilly important when we're talking about meditating.

my advice is that if you seek brow-chakra type enlightenment/understanding mental journeying experiences, then, counter intuitively, you should start by simpy and aimlessly relaxing the entire body from the base of the spine upward. That precipitates the stillness required for the mind.

Nirvana is a state of egoless intense joy, supreme bliss.

bodhi is a state beyond nirvana, which is continued bliss, everlasting nirvana. It is my sincere beleif that the doors to nirvana are always open, that we can revisit this state in any moment, it is simply a matter of perception.

the highest plane of existence, the ultimate reality, is where all extremes meet and everything is absolutely still, yet continually reforming and changing. people say to me they've achieved this kind of stillness before, where they are meditating, smoking some dmt or perhaps on lsd, and they see a line going upward and everything balancing on it, tending to it, coming from it; As in a classical hyperspace "totem" you might see in luke brown's artwork, or alex grey's, or others.

- but let me just tell you this - This is only one plane of infinity. there are infinity planes of infinity; there is a place where straight lines which head outward infinitely actually *bend in on themselves* and meet in a circular plane made of abstractions of all other planes of infinity.

In this way, everything which is done and everything which isn't, is the will of the supreme perfection which we are witnessing in every moment.

Oh yeah, also, Khrishna consiousness, or christ-consiousness is a state of mind, wherein one chooses to live as a jivan-mukta, an enlightened person within the material plane. He may remain fully in god-consiousness while attending his material duties.
 
MooshyPeaches said:
ive had a similar experience and afterwards found my 'equilibrium' self or natural state slowly drifting from constant thoughts/focus on the self/worrys/random nonsense with little oasis of silence between, to being in the moment and starting to have trust in the uncertainty of how it unfolds. its like being liberated from wearing this 50lb ego suit.
and suddenly you're BEING the moment and it is interactive as if it is reflective of you and it almost feels guided or propelled;a malleable experience. its real. you'll either read these just as the words they are, or sense what they are trying to point at. its great, hop on the train
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Well, that's pretty much what I experienced recently, following the events of these DMT trips. I guess I'd call it "aware auto-pilot conciousness". I felt very in the moment, not really thinking about things, just doing, and I surprised myself a few times. For a while it felt like every action, every decision I was doing, had some sort of significance, no matter how insignificant the action seemed. I have no idea why I felt this way, but I did. I stopped being worried about pretty much everything, and most things seemed pretty exciting to me, even if they weren't. Oh, and a shit ton of neat little coincidences that I guess you could call synchronicity. Following this, I did LSD with 3 other people, and the strangest thing happened.

At some point during the trip, (around when the drugs really started to kick in), it kinda felt like I broke reality, like I had entered another realm of existence. I believed that I was some sort of awakened god, and so were the other 3 people I was with. They all seemed much older and and wiser than I though. It's worth mentioning that one of people was a good friend of mine I've known for years, and the other two were newer friends. We had some intense conversations, and it all felt oh so very "guided". I learned lots of insights about stuff that I seemed to be remembering rather than learning. It felt like everything I had done in my life was leading up to that moment (of course it did, but this felt important). There was so much symbolism in everything that everybody said. Most of the conversations we had seemed very normal, but with so much underlying information behind it, and I could interpret it. Like they were trying to tell me the secrets of life, but with playful subtlety. At the time, I was in full belief that what I was witnessing was actually true, and not just me being stupid high on drugs and wildly misinterpreting things, and for some pretty good reasons.

When I started sobering up is when I started questioning things. I asked my friend about what had happened, and he told me he didn't remember much of what happened, and that they were mostly messing with me when I explained the details. I'm not really too sure what to believe anymore. What I can say is that it does feel like I've caught some sort of spiritual "wave" recently, and now I'm along for the ride.
 
Nakes said:
At some point during the trip, (around when the drugs really started to kick in), it kinda felt like I broke reality, like I had entered another realm of existence. I believed that I was some sort of awakened god, and so were the other 3 people I was with. They all seemed much older and and wiser than I though. It's worth mentioning that one of people was a good friend of mine I've known for years, and the other two were newer friends. We had some intense conversations, and it all felt oh so very "guided". I learned lots of insights about stuff that I seemed to be remembering rather than learning. It felt like everything I had done in my life was leading up to that moment (of course it did, but this felt important). There was so much symbolism in everything that everybody said. Most of the conversations we had seemed very normal, but with so much underlying information behind it, and I could interpret it. Like they were trying to tell me the secrets of life, but with playful subtlety. At the time, I was in full belief that what I was witnessing was actually true, and not just me being stupid high on drugs and wildly misinterpreting things, and for some pretty good reasons.
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Try coming to the Nexus once when you are in that "holy god, I'm seeing the undercurrents everywhere" state and try reading some of the posts. You will be floored. "OMG, do these people know the depth of what they are writing here? How could I not see it before? Or are they present at several levels at once, and they transmit the information from their elder selves, without their lower selves knowing about that?"
 
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