I remember a particular experience induced with DMT that I've had and had the words 'satori enlightenment' play from somewhere in the back of my mind for no reason whatsoever. I didn't even know what it was after I looked it up. Well, it was a particularly intense experience and somehow thought I could break-through to something i've been close to on Salvia and a lot of people had been there before me including Jamie. It had to do with the breathe and controlling it in such a way and I could even use this to extend the DMT trip for hours they said.

Might as well add that in another trip I met beings who where somehow 'outside of time' because they had knowledge of future/past and they showed me that from there in a particular screen that they constructed that experience for me.

I guess a lot of us confuse Satori Enlightenment with actual Enlightenment here. I have an idea of what Enlightenment is. What I have in mind is indeed much more than a Kundalini but quite likely different again from Jamie. (I'm sorry, I haven't read some of the Krishnamurti linked here. I do not know exactly what is a Kundalini Awakening I have never had one)

There was more I was about to say but I can't get to it right now. I'm sure this will suffice for time being. Oh yea. I wanted to say that I think that Ram Dass is/has reached a particular state.. Hmm.. Satori Enlgihtenment or actual Enlightenment. I guess I am inkling to say that he is more or less Enlightened based on who he is right now. Since he mentioned this Breathing thing as an off-side thing and basically said we could use our breathe to alternate dimenions if we like to. If this equals Satori Enlightenment He just thought it was nice but not equally important like some of us would if we knew this.