entity spoke to my friend

[skinwalker]

so i was smoking a buddy up today for the first time, and as this guy went under he met a giant rotating cube (or diamond..i'm alittle confused). He said it had what looked like celtic crosses on each face of the cube/diamond. it of course was alive and demanded to know what he wanted. Being a good pupil listening to me he said he only wanted love and servitude and nothing more. It then began to discuss his life and he apparently then saw or was also speakin to a typical grey alien like creature. Well as this entity was reviewing his life and giving him advice. I was speaking softly to another friend in the background telling him that i'm still not convinced that these aliens/entities are 100% positive and may possible be demons in disguise. I told my other friend "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". the moment i said this apparently my other friend who was speaking to this alien creature, said the creature suddenly stopped talking and directed all of its attention at me and announced to him "ignore what he is saying, he doesnt know what he's talking about". I find this fascinating that whatever was speaking with him picked up and was concerned by my comment.

My question now is... I think this may help reveal its true intentions, but how do you interpret this?



my concerns rise from the "evil daemon" concept presented by the philospher René Descartes

Evil demon - Wikipedia

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René Descartes hypothesises the existence of an evil daemon, a personification who is "as clever and deceitful as he is powerful, who has directed his entire effort to misleading me." The evil daemon presents a complete illusion of an external world, including other people, to Descartes' senses, where in fact there is no such external world in existence. The evil genius also presents to Descartes' senses a complete illusion of his own body, including all bodily sensations, where in fact Descartes has no body. Most Cartesian scholars opine that the evil daemon is also omnipotent, and thus capable of altering mathematics and the fundamentals of logic.[1][2]

 

[skippyluvs]

I'm curious, why do you immediately assume that the entity may have "true intentions?"
Maybe it was right? Maybe you have no idea what you're talking about? You're statement about "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" is delving into some "deep" philosophical territories, you could be 30 years old, but maybe that entity (assuming it exists) for all we know could be 9.892 billion years old and has a wealth of wisdom no one on this planet could fathom.

And what do you mean exactly by "the road to hell is paved with good intentions", did you mean something more like "the road to heaven is paved with good intentions but the journey there can be hellish?" More info could be helpful.

 

[skinwalker]

for all we know could be 9.892 billion years old and has a wealth of wisdom no one on this planet could fathom.

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why would a 9.892 billion year old care what i think or say? why would it stop dead in its tracks to anaylze this statement and refute it? obviously it had merit and hit a note with this being.

"Hell is full of good desires.
[1574 E. Hellowes tr. Guevara's Epistles 205]
It is a saying among Divines, that Hell is full of good Intentions, and Meanings.[1654 R. Whitlock Observations on Manners of English 203]
"

also if dmt has taught me any truths its to question EVERYTHING, reality included. I think your still part of the sleeping flock if you simply accept what your spoon fed from either traditional reality we exist in now, or hyperspace reality being told what to say or think. This creature was NOT God, we have no idea of intentions irregardless if something simply is more intelligent and enlightenened than we are. Your "soul" may be worth alot more than we realize to these hyperdimensional creautes and their superior intellect to manipulate. I'm not saying they are wrong, i'm simply saying NEVER STOP QUESTIONING. You will know "God" or the creator, and question all men and denzions inbetween.

 

[skippyluvs]

for all we know could be 9.892 billion years old and has a wealth of wisdom no one on this planet could fathom.

.

why would a 9.892 billion year old care what i think or say? why would it stop dead in its tracks to anaylze this statement and refute it? obviously it had merit and hit a note with this being.

"Hell is full of good desires.
[1574 E. Hellowes tr. Guevara's Epistles 205]
It is a saying among Divines, that Hell is full of good Intentions, and Meanings.[1654 R. Whitlock Observations on Manners of English 203]
"

also if dmt has taught me any truths its to question EVERYTHING, reality included. I think your still part of the sleeping flock if you simply accept what your spoon fed from either traditional reality we exist in now, or hyperspace reality being told what to say or think. This creature was NOT God, we have no idea of intentions irregardless if something simply is more intelligent and enlightenened than we are. Your "soul" may be worth alot more than we realize to these hyperdimensional creautes and their superior intellect to manipulate. I'm not saying they are wrong, i'm simply saying NEVER STOP QUESTIONING. You will know "God" or the creator, and question all men and denzions inbetween.

Woah, calm down, my questions were as they are were. I wasn't implying anything.

But to answer your questions:

why would a 9.892 billion year old care what i think or say?

Maybe it was bored? Maybe it thinks you're a being of value and not worth "entirely" ignoring? Anything is possible, use your imagination.

why would it stop dead in its tracks to anaylze this statement and refute it?

Based on what you said I did not get the impression that it "analyzed" anything. And if it did "stop dead in its tracks" maybe it was interested in what you had to say, maybe its looking out for you?

obviously it had merit and hit a note with this being.

You don't know that for sure, at best one can only assume. Your definition and/or experience of merit is only relative to you at best.

also if dmt has taught me any truths its to question EVERYTHING

I hope you didn't need dmt to figure that one out. But good for you, you should question everything.

I think your still part of the sleeping flock if you simply accept what your spoon fed from either traditional reality we exist in now, or hyperspace reality being told what to say or think.

You know nothing about me so don't even bother with making assumptions it's a pointless exercise.

This creature was NOT God

Never suggested it was (incase you thought I did).

Your "soul" may be worth alot more than we realize to these hyperdimensional creautes and their superior intellect to manipulate

Never suggested it wasn't (incase you thought I did).

"Hell is full of good desires.
[1574 E. Hellowes tr. Guevara's Epistles 205]
It is a saying among Divines, that Hell is full of good Intentions, and Meanings.[1654 R. Whitlock Observations on Manners of English 203]"

Quoted from a human making an interpretation at best? I hope you continue your principles and "question everything" including this (at least) before wholeheartedly accepting it as truth.

 

[AstraLex]

Hey skinwalker

I know, I suppose, where you/your friend are talking about. I am working with that entity in a pretty direct manner and I call it ‘Sub-consciousness’ or ‘Collective Consciousness’. But, if you prefer the terms ‘demons’, ‘devil’, ‘Soul’ etc. – be my guest. So, here go my 2 cents.

- You can’t know what this thing is. Trying to label it is the hardest part and I consider it to be a real mind-fuck. So, don’t bother to label it or give it a specific name or quality;

- Just work with it ‘as is’ or chicken out and stop doing psychedelics ;

- All things are neutral, meaningless. You give meaning to all things. If you believe in demons – you will face them all the time. If you believe that somebody is after your ‘soul’ (like thieves are after your money) – you will face it all the time. You make it real. So, please, let go of this. Believe in yourself, believe in your capability to create any reality you prefer. And let all those evil, fear inducing things out of it ;

- The funny thing is, when I connected to that phenomenon (Sub-consciousness), pretty much all of my friends and family suggested, that it might be ‘demons in disguise’, trying to ‘corrupt my soul’. Pretty much everybody is conditioned to fear, to fear, to fear, to fear. Pretty much everybody’s ego is a shitting, fearing, piece of a chicken. Citing the Bible, philosophers and what not, only to rationalize their pre-conditioned fear. So few people are willing to go beyond their fear-based belief systems and look further;

- Your conscience ( = the thing in your head that gives you a good feeling when you do the ‘right thing’ and gives you a bad feeling when you do something wrong) seems to come from the same source.

So, all of this leaves you with a choice.

Either you believe that you are all-powerful to create any reality you prefer and that there are no fundamentally ‘good’ or ‘evil’ things in the world and as so continue to work with that phenomenon.

Or you believe in evil demons and what not and face a psychosis or worse.

You decide.

Kind regards, AstraLex.

 

[skinwalker]

whatever it was, IT was advising my friend and going through his life and discussing some personal matters with him, when suddenly it stopped in the middle of its lecture to him and focused all of its attention on me and what i had to say. I just found this to be unique and percurliar based on my own travels into hyperspace.

typically these entities tell my friends to listen to what I am telling them and my advice. I'm not saying this from "ego" perspective this is a very very common experience i have. Which makes me question if i'm corrupting the consciousness/souls whatever ... of more people, hence its encouragement of my sales pitch about hyperspace, and its discouragement of my assumption of nefarous intentions?

 

[camdemonium]

All things are neutral, meaningless. You give meaning to all things. If you believe in demons – you will face them all the time. If you believe that somebody is after your ‘soul’ (like thieves are after your money) – you will face it all the time. You make it real. So, please, let go of this. Believe in yourself, believe in your capability to create any reality you prefer. And let all those evil, fear inducing things out of it ;

I completely disagree with this as shamans in the amazon who are worlds beyond our comprehension of reality fight evil entities all the time, and there ARE entities after your life, and if they get it, this physical existence is gone for good (at least this body is).

There is surely such thing as evil, as there is such of good, the question now is was it actually an evil entity and not just a projection of your subconscious telling you what an evil entity is.

 

[skinwalker]

the question now is was it actually an evil entity and not just a projection of your subconscious telling you what an evil entity is

they really truely are hard to differientiate. I know what you mean by seperating my subconscious attempts to assign meaning to divine entities. i feel when i smoke that i'm either visited by this very bright light fast paced world of something sooo positive i cant remember it, and usually when i reach this nirvanna these typically grey alien like creature or just "aliens" seem to shut the entire experience down. They feel somehow evil to me... my soul screams of a bad intention. THere are always colors associated with their presence. I feel like they are somehow the gatekeepers preventing me from seeing this other side. Its hard for me to say what my friend saw but he did draw a picture and it was the typically alien shape/type that I see waaaay too commonly. It seems these entites follow me even through my friends "visions" when smoking spice. I always seem to be the main topic of the entities when they return to talk about their experience. This somewhat unnerves me, it may be a wonderful thing being so popular on the otherside, or i may be jeapordizing parts of me that i have no clue i'm gambling with by peeking behind the curtain. Its all so damn confusing... so much so that i'm really trying my hardest to firmly root myself in this reality as I was beginning to lose touch with everything (it was just getting way way way too real...)