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Brian Kerr

Brian Kerr
My first try, ended in the shits and a slight relaxation.
After 8 hours of work, I would expect more.
My starting material must have been total carp.
At leased I did not puke.

If at first you don't succeed, change your vendor and try again.
 
Brain,

Sorry to hear your brew was a dud. Do you think you will give it anothere shot?
What kind of vine did you use? What was your cooking technique?
I am going to be preparing my first brew soon as well, so I have been searching the forums like crazy.
I hear the first brews can be pretty hit and miss, and also take quite a physical toll. I am going to start with a vine only brew of 50g yellow, what was your recipe?

Better luck next time,
Once
 
I split up my Vine (100g) boiled it with (50g) of S.viridis
in distilled water for 3 hours then removed that water and
did the same with another bottle of distilled watter.
combined the 2 extracts and reduced to a glass of liquid.
Sipped it and washed it down over an hour I guess.
There is no way I could have gulped it. It would have come
right back up for sure.

I think next time I am going to purchase extracts of B.Caapi and S.Viridis
and just consume them.

Or I may make separate teas. Drink the B.Caapi first then some time later
drink the S.Viridis.
 
Brian Kerr said:
Sipped it and washed it down over an hour I guess.
There is no way I could have gulped it. It would have come
right back up for sure.


Well there is your issue Haas...this ain't no sippin' whiskey.
Your body metabolized DMT extremely fast, that is why it has to be combined with an MAOI to be taken orally, or else it is broken down in the gut almost instantly. An MAOI will stop the creation of certain enzymes long enough for the DMT to be digested & become active.
If you are sipping a dose of Aya over an hour, all your gonna get is a horrible oily taste in your mouth for an extended period of time.
Gonna need enough MAOI all at once to deactivate the DMT eating enzymes & your gonna need to take enough DMT all at once to guarantee that enough of it will actually be digested & become active.

Short version....No Sippin'


Your dose needs to be reduced down to an amount about the size of a shot, something you can kick back in one gulp...maybe two if your taking a big dose.

And yes, it is quite vile, especially the first few times!!
So plan ahead & brew more than one dose at a time..have at least one backup in case you do puke it all up too soon, based on the taste, etc...

On the other hand, you should also plan on some vomiting...
It's gonna happen if you are doing things correctly.
But this is not a bad thing at all!! In fact this is where the majority of the healing & cleaning takes place, you literally purge yourself of shit you've been collecting for a long, long time!
That's the whole idea!!


Hope that helps...
WS
 
I take one sip just to......

savor the flavor......

and in one big gulp...... down goes the rest.

this isnt love making Mr Kerr.

You gotta get the dosage on board.


Purging sucks, but it goes with the turf. Purging is a small price to pay.


Metabolizing & Sipping

Sipping & Metabolizing



Dont give up Mr Kerr some of us are out here rooting for you.

Be patient, stay the course. You will be glad you did.
 
Brian Kerr said:
I split up my Vine (100g) boiled it with (50g) of S.viridis
in distilled water for 3 hours then removed that water and
did the same with another bottle of distilled watter.
combined the 2 extracts and reduced to a glass of liquid.
Sipped it and washed it down over an hour I guess.
There is no way I could have gulped it. It would have come
right back up for sure.

I think next time I am going to purchase extracts of B.Caapi and S.Viridis
and just consume them.

Or I may make separate teas. Drink the B.Caapi first then some time later
drink the S.Viridis.

did you ph balance the distilled water to a ph of 4 or less? or add some vinegar? ive heard this is a good thing to do. also maybe try 3x3 hour brews instead of 2.

i just drank my first caapi brew last night of 100g no admixture and was extremely altered. i wrote a trip report if your interested.
my brew tek was ms.manic.minxx's. i just followed it to the letter of the law and holy cow did it work!!!

dont give up, theres so much potential healing in these brews.
 
Hi Brian!!

I would highly recommend the full 3x3 cook!!

A few things:

Certain strains of vine are active for certain people at the 200g+ dosage range. Perhaps the vine you had with the amount you took was not enough. Next time, I would recommend cooking more so you can redose if necessary!!

Also, the fact that you DID feel relaxed and experienced purgative effects means that it WAS working! Sometimes it takes people a few attempts to acclimate, learn dosage, their bodies' reaction to the vine, etc.

What did or didn't you eat that day?

Finally, I have to disagree and say that one CAN most definitely sip Ayahuasca. I've been drinking it that way, weekly, for over a year (in a smoothie ;) ). It most definitely IS lovemaking, from the moment I lay my hands upon the vine, until the moment I wake up in a glow the morning after, and I pine for her when we are apart. :twisted: I prefer drinking slowly (with the luxury of taste disguised), because it's impossible to over- or underdose. One thing I would recommend is waiting at least 20 minutes between vine and admixture if you do knock back the shots, though, to give the MAOI some time to kick in. Lots of personal experimentation suggests this is more effective than drinking combined vine and admixture together.

Do not give up, my friend! :)
 
Yeah I agree you can for sure sip ayahausca..my strongest experience so far I dosed 3 times in about an hour until the brew was gone..and by that time so was I..I tend to drink enough to be active right away though..then drink some more once im feeling that crystal clear relaxed state take me over..
 
Definitely not giving up ! :)

I am a confirmed mind manifesting type of person.

I need to learn the aya that is four sure, but I will learn.

Next time I am going to make 2 separate brews take the vine first and leaf second.

Peace and thanks for all the advice.

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I cooked it the day before and drank it in the morning as it is easer to fast over night. so I took it on an empty stomach.
 
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