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I’m hard-headed, i’ll test Water + Lime vs Water + Lime + EA…I have no problem being wrong, when learning. Lol

Shoulda done this last night.

OK, so it looks to me like the effect of lime in the paste on pulled solution pH is dependent on how the lime disperses in the paste, dissociates and interacts with other paste components, and thereby ends up in solution. Perhaps 100% of the pH change from acidic pure EA to basic pulled EA is due to the freebase M, but lime does seem to have the potential to play a role.

I mixed 3.5mL distilled water with 0.29g pickling lime -> 12 pH,

I then added 11.0mL fresh EA (pH 5.0) and the solution immediately separated into what looked like a top EA layer and a bottom layer(s) of water + lime: the top EA layer had pH close/identical to fresh EA; the bottom layer(s) had 12 pH.

I then shook the shit out of the solution, got pH 9

A pic of the results is attached.
Left side are the strips from last night, left to right is Fresh EA, EA + citrate, EA + citrate + water;
Right side are the strips from this morning, left to right is Fresh EA, Shaken water + lime + EA, EA layer in water + lime + EA, Lime layer in water + lime + EA, Water + lime.

Btw, this discussion has no practical effect on the fact that this tek is a M extraction masterpiece!

<blockquote data-quote="Cheelin" data-source="post: 3896008" data-attributes="member: 51712">I’m hard-headed, i’ll test Water + Lime vs Water + Lime + EA…I have no problem being wrong, when learning.&nbsp; LolShoulda done this last night.OK, so it looks to me like the effect of lime in the paste on pulled solution pH is dependent on how the lime disperses in the paste, dissociates and interacts with other paste components, and thereby ends up in solution. Perhaps 100% of the pH change from acidic pure EA to basic pulled EA is due to the freebase M, but lime does seem to have the potential to play a role.I mixed 3.5mL distilled water with 0.29g pickling lime -&gt;&nbsp; 12 pH,I then added 11.0mL fresh EA (pH 5.0) and the solution immediately separated into what looked like a top EA layer and a bottom layer(s) of water + lime: the top EA layer had pH close/identical to fresh EA; the bottom layer(s) had 12 pH.I then shook the shit out of the solution, got pH 9A pic of the results is attached. Left side are the strips from last night, left to right is Fresh EA, EA + citrate, EA + citrate + water;Right side are the strips from this morning, left to right is&nbsp; Fresh EA, Shaken water + lime + EA, EA layer in water + lime + EA, Lime&nbsp; layer in water + lime + EA, Water + lime.Btw, this discussion has no practical effect on the fact that this tek is a M extraction masterpiece!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cheelin, post: 3896008, member: 51712"] I’m hard-headed, i’ll test Water + Lime vs Water + Lime + EA…I have no problem being wrong, when learning. Lol Shoulda done this last night. OK, so it looks to me like the effect of lime in the paste on pulled solution pH is dependent on how the lime disperses in the paste, dissociates and interacts with other paste components, and thereby ends up in solution. Perhaps 100% of the pH change from acidic pure EA to basic pulled EA is due to the freebase M, but lime does seem to have the potential to play a role. I mixed 3.5mL distilled water with 0.29g pickling lime -> 12 pH, I then added 11.0mL fresh EA (pH 5.0) and the solution immediately separated into what looked like a top EA layer and a bottom layer(s) of water + lime: the top EA layer had pH close/identical to fresh EA; the bottom layer(s) had 12 pH. I then shook the shit out of the solution, got pH 9 A pic of the results is attached. Left side are the strips from last night, left to right is Fresh EA, EA + citrate, EA + citrate + water; Right side are the strips from this morning, left to right is Fresh EA, Shaken water + lime + EA, EA layer in water + lime + EA, Lime layer in water + lime + EA, Water + lime. Btw, this discussion has no practical effect on the fact that this tek is a M extraction masterpiece! [/QUOTE]