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Excited to get my first vac rig

aethereon

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I finally done did it, after countless days/months/etc looking at various TEKS and just feeling confused by it all I did the next best thing, invest in random equipment; sep funnel as well as a filter flask/buchner. I got the biggest size flask/funnel I could since i figured bigger is better. I got some filter paper at 10 micron and 20. I got some filter rings for the buchner as well & I found a small 12 volt vacuum pump for super cheap at some surplus store here in town. I'm not sure how many milibars it pulls and it doesn't move much volume but I'm thinking this has got to be better than gravity filtering though coffee filter/cotton balls. Also since the pump was so cheap I could probably get a second or even third one and like 'manifold' them up so long as my ac-dc adapter can put out enough amps to power them all 🥲 but yeah I will get some updates on how it goes once I get all the stuff and have a chance to manske and what have you.
 
I love me some glass porn, when I started getting self glassware i needed some place to store it all. Has some old suit cases I retrofitted to hold glassware.

Getting proper glassware was a game changer for me at least , moving up from pickle jars to something more purpose focused. Always a good investment if one can afford it amd it's legal where they live.

Working in the HVAC industry Vacuum pumps are easy to come by and seem to fall off the truck🫠

Would love to see your setup you have aquired as well.

Wonder if there is a glass thread somewhere here in the Nexus. Ill have a search over my Chinese dinner.
 
Wonder if there is a glass thread somewhere here in the Nexus. Ill have a search over my Chinese dinner.
If not, we better be staring one! It could also be useful for helping identify obscure items and explaining their correct use.

Beyond that, the only similar threads that spring to mind are a couple regarding pipes and bongs.
 
I had a huge reply typed out before but I didn't realize there was a draft feature. Anyways probably all the best! I'll keep it concisce.

Glad to hear that I'm not weird for ogling the glass haha. I'm thinking I got a good deal on the filtering flask. Now that I am here writing this post, I realize I don't have any good pictures of the glass so I'll leave you with the makeshift vacuum. I want to add a vacuum switch to make it have an 'auto' feature so it will switch on when the vacuum runs out. It works, maybe a 'proper' vacuum would be faster, sometimes I feel like I am going through the filter paper like toilet paper and it take forever. But there is a reason for different filtering stages, and compared to gravity alone this gets the job done in a fraction of the time. Provided you have the apparatus to use to filter... At one point for a vacuum flask, I was considering using a bong with the downstem removed, somehow I had the glass bits to hook up a hose and I'm sure that would have worked but I never really used that.... i knew one day I would get something better.
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I think my makeshift pump works okay. I'm not talking about the pump moreso the glass 🥲I bought two different kinds of filter paper, and on the one I had several 'blowouts' where the filter gave way creating a hole allowing the unfiltered liquid to be pulled through with great force, a bit annoying as I had to restart the filtration. I think I will be avoiding that particular filter. The listing for those showed mushrooms I guess these filter papers are used in mycology as well. Regardless, finding fast filter paper in my funnel size has proven difficult. I thought long and hard about how to cut perfect circles out of these bamboo coffee filters cause after cutting out a handful with a pair of scissors I thought there was a better way. After fantasizing about aquiring a laser cnc cutter to perfectly cut filter discs out of coffee filters, but it was too extrreme of a fantasy so I settled on this Olfa circle cutter i managed to find at a local sewing store. The only crappy thing about this method is it uses a pin to locate the cutter creating a tiny pinhole in the center of the paper which of course isn't what you want for filtering, but it's a pinhole and using 2-3 filters at a time seems to work. Seems like a pretty good method of getting coarse filter paper discs to whatever size you like. Of course you are still cutting them out by hand but it's definitely faster than with scissors. It's a bit challenging to perectly cut out the entire paper but you can just tear out the little bits that end up sticking and it ends up being pretty close to a perfect circle. That's of course using the whole buchner funnel... I found that the 10 micron paper seems to filter really really slow though even after a bunch of this pre-filtering. The harmala crud is indeed relentless but yeah i did also inisist on grinding the seeds, not to dust mostly but yeah... I think next time I will try not grinding them and seeing if the yield is still the same. I searched and seached and indeed found some Syrian Rue that wasn't being sold at an inflated price. I was a bit surprised a the chocolatey smell of this new batch but that will have to come later as I just did the last of my old stock.

Oh yeah I was using Melitta brand and you can get these 'flat' ones that are folded in half and are meant to be a sort of 'cup' for the coffee grounds but yeah cutting those with the circle maker gives you two at once, mind you they have the pinhole in them but the melitta brand filters do seem to have a 'pinhole' pattern already die cut into them I'm thinking there might be a 'directionality' in terms of which way these holes are cut and facing in the buchner.... it's a bit tough to explain and maybe I'm overthinking it because there's 2-3 layers anyways but later I'll come back with some better photos to illustrate what I mean. But yeah you get 2x filters so for about $5usd or so for 160 filters in the end isn't bad? But they do have holes in them and the tool is of course money too. Not to mention using three at a time but hey the price is good and they do filter... somwewhat. 😅

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Before using the buchner I was using this silicone collapsible funnel thing, and stuffing some cotton balls into the bottom. But I also experienced the dreaded 'blowouts' where the vacuum force pulled the cotton down the funnel along with the contents. Taking it easy on the vacuuming kept that in check but eventually impatience tends to take hold and then having to restart again... But I devised a 'strainer plug' and 3d printed it so these blowouts using the cotton ball wouldn't occur. I'll get some better glass porn pics later along with this silicon funnel finding it has been pretty sweet for the filtering.

Also maybe call me crazy but I've been using organic cotton balls, apparently cotton is highly/heavily (one of the most) sprayed, I never understood why people wanted organic cotton when you're not eating it so I looked into it and yeah that is why, maybe something to consider?
 
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Wonder if there is a glass thread somewhere here in the Nexus. Ill have a search over my Chinese dinner.
Any success in the postprandial torpor? :LOL:

The only crappy thing about this method is it uses a pin to locate the cutter creating a tiny pinhole in the center of the paper which of course isn't what you want for filtering, but it's a pinhole
Maybe some kind of disc or washer would prevent this from happening, while still holding the papers in place?
The harmala crud is indeed relentless but yeah i did also inisist on grinding the seeds
Ain't it just! Even with whole seeds, the first pull can be atrocious. I still have some bottles of harmala base sludge that resolutely refused to filter, so I gave up in disgust. (I wonder where they got to...?)
 
I still haven’t gotten aroudn to pics myself, but i had something interesting happen during my manske… at the first manske it was reccomended to filter salt solution as well filter dissolved harmalas. Well why not combine 2 steps in one? Oh thats why… the precipitation starts as soon as salt added :\
I was a bit worried as i could see the yellow particles immediately as soon as i added salt. In my haste i added more vinegar to help dissolve but i think i got a few harmala grams in the filters, with of course crud. But what blew me away is somehow i ended up with completely yellow harmalas on the first go… i mean at that point i had already done a massive filter train so i guess it makes sense. However still normally they come out dark brown and get lighter with repeated dissolve/manske. Anyways i got a nice puck of yellow harmalas, i dont think i will do further manske(s) unless someone thinks its good idea. I super neutralized the lot with vinegar so should be ok!

Also i doubt anyone is sitting around pining for replies on the forums here, but in case anyone was i’m happy to share a couple years ago when i was "journeying" often eventually i got the message like… "ok bub but theres more-to life though" and recently i have been engaging more with life and it’s been really great… highly recommend;)

But yes pics soon i gotta get some nice ones.

The only thing that makes me a bit "weird" abou sakkadeliks tek is the microwave thing lol. I’m sure its fine but i’m also wondering if it can be done without microwave. Maybe i will read the tek over and see if it could be done without. But yeah no more grinding in either case.. I will pic of how many filters i went through for 200g of syrian and it’s a bit over the top! A giant buchner would be better! 🥵
 
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Ain't it just! Even with whole seeds, the first pull can be atrocious. I still have some bottles of harmala base sludge that resolutely refused to filter, so I gave up in disgust. (I wonder where they got to...?
Maybe the crud has settled. Now to find them :p on a mildly related note, i was looking at corning media storage bottles (the prices) and was like ah ha ha no. Regular glass is fine I suppose;)

Also i didn’t try with a washer or coaster but that might work if you are really careful. I’m not really sure what then micron count of these coffee filter is, especially these melitta ones which do seem to have a hole pattern already in them (i swear i will get pics in the next couple days i got some free time) but efen with a pinhole its acceptable, helps save the ‘tailor made’ filters for later. To which maybe even using real filter paper is unecessary if ppl make do with cotton and coffe filter and gravity alone.

Now i suppose this all means i’ll have to delve back into harmalas now.
 
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I will pic of how many filters i went through for 200g of syrian and it’s a bit over the top! A giant buchner would be better! 🥵
Hm, in light of this I can see that my attempt to extract a whole kilo of seeds was clearly way too over-ambitious :LOL: Makes me wish I still had my gigantic Buchner funnel, too (RIP).
Now i suppose this all means i’ll have to delve back into harmalas now.
Oh, definitely - and some pictures of your nice crystals would be a real bonus ;)
 
I had a huge reply typed out before but I didn't realize there was a draft feature. Anyways probably all the best! I'll keep it concisce.

Glad to hear that I'm not weird for ogling the glass haha. I'm thinking I got a good deal on the filtering flask. Now that I am here writing this post, I realize I don't have any good pictures of the glass so I'll leave you with the makeshift vacuum. I want to add a vacuum switch to make it have an 'auto' feature so it will switch on when the vacuum runs out. It works, maybe a 'proper' vacuum would be faster, sometimes I feel like I am going through the filter paper like toilet paper and it take forever. But there is a reason for different filtering stages, and compared to gravity alone this gets the job done in a fraction of the time. Provided you have the apparatus to use to filter... At one point for a vacuum flask, I was considering using a bong with the downstem removed, somehow I had the glass bits to hook up a hose and I'm sure that would have worked but I never really used that.... i knew one day I would get something better.
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I think my makeshift pump works okay. I'm not talking about the pump moreso the glass 🥲I bought two different kinds of filter paper, and on the one I had several 'blowouts' where the filter gave way creating a hole allowing the unfiltered liquid to be pulled through with great force, a bit annoying as I had to restart the filtration. I think I will be avoiding that particular filter. The listing for those showed mushrooms I guess these filter papers are used in mycology as well. Regardless, finding fast filter paper in my funnel size has proven difficult. I thought long and hard about how to cut perfect circles out of these bamboo coffee filters cause after cutting out a handful with a pair of scissors I thought there was a better way. After fantasizing about aquiring a laser cnc cutter to perfectly cut filter discs out of coffee filters, but it was too extrreme of a fantasy so I settled on this Olfa circle cutter i managed to find at a local sewing store. The only crappy thing about this method is it uses a pin to locate the cutter creating a tiny pinhole in the center of the paper which of course isn't what you want for filtering, but it's a pinhole and using 2-3 filters at a time seems to work. Seems like a pretty good method of getting coarse filter paper discs to whatever size you like. Of course you are still cutting them out by hand but it's definitely faster than with scissors. It's a bit challenging to perectly cut out the entire paper but you can just tear out the little bits that end up sticking and it ends up being pretty close to a perfect circle. That's of course using the whole buchner funnel... I found that the 10 micron paper seems to filter really really slow though even after a bunch of this pre-filtering. The harmala crud is indeed relentless but yeah i did also inisist on grinding the seeds, not to dust mostly but yeah... I think next time I will try not grinding them and seeing if the yield is still the same. I searched and seached and indeed found some Syrian Rue that wasn't being sold at an inflated price. I was a bit surprised a the chocolatey smell of this new batch but that will have to come later as I just did the last of my old stock.

Oh yeah I was using Melitta brand and you can get these 'flat' ones that are folded in half and are meant to be a sort of 'cup' for the coffee grounds but yeah cutting those with the circle maker gives you two at once, mind you they have the pinhole in them but the melitta brand filters do seem to have a 'pinhole' pattern already die cut into them I'm thinking there might be a 'directionality' in terms of which way these holes are cut and facing in the buchner.... it's a bit tough to explain and maybe I'm overthinking it because there's 2-3 layers anyways but later I'll come back with some better photos to illustrate what I mean. But yeah you get 2x filters so for about $5usd or so for 160 filters in the end isn't bad? But they do have holes in them and the tool is of course money too. Not to mention using three at a time but hey the price is good and they do filter... somwewhat. 😅

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Before using the buchner I was using this silicone collapsible funnel thing, and stuffing some cotton balls into the bottom. But I also experienced the dreaded 'blowouts' where the vacuum force pulled the cotton down the funnel along with the contents. Taking it easy on the vacuuming kept that in check but eventually impatience tends to take hold and then having to restart again... But I devised a 'strainer plug' and 3d printed it so these blowouts using the cotton ball wouldn't occur. I'll get some better glass porn pics later along with this silicon funnel finding it has been pretty sweet for the filtering.

Also maybe call me crazy but I've been using organic cotton balls, apparently cotton is highly/heavily (one of the most) sprayed, I never understood why people wanted organic cotton when you're not eating it so I looked into it and yeah that is why, maybe something to consider?
Beautiful work!
 
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