^^yes. A differnt thing for sure!
it can be like DMT only in that it replaces this reality with one so alien it's basically inconcievableunti you go there..but it canbe VERY nervracking..mush more so than DMT..which is why most do not ever go back.
But I love it! It scares the hell out of me..but also challenges every single thing I think I know about reality and myself. Most of the time on a good breakthrough I loose all coneption of myslef in this world, normal physics seems to break down and non-elucidean geomety becomes apparent.
For me there is always portals pulling and twisting me into weird shapes and blasting me off into other worlds..once in those worlds though it may seem like a normal earth scene, maybe from the long ago past, or far away future..living other lives there, and you may think that that is you're real life.
Or something completely different and alien, totally indescribable. There are lots of entities also, of many different types. The only common thing among these real high dose experiences is the very real sense of interdimensional travel for me..
Becasue of this, it canbe EXTREMELY disorienting for many people that take it is a less thanideal situation. Salvia requires set and setting more than any othr entheogen I know of. If you take a full dose, you are very literaly(feels like it anyway) ripped out of the fabric of this reality, and forcefully pulled into other places..you may also feel spread across many dimensions at once, experiencing simultanious realities at the same time..this happens more if you take it in a light room with distractions though that can sort of hold you here a bit..but you take a real large dose you prob will completely leave this reality anyway.
Also one must be prepared to really let the ego self die in a salvia experience. Fighting it once it comes on can be tramatizing and futile. Sometimes I atually become another dimension myslef, my mouth will become the portal, and whatever is left of me will be ripped through that portal and pop out as something differnt altogether on the other side..really really strange stuff. This is where those strange twisting and pulling sensations come from..one must go with those sensations to really have a salvia breakthrough..most people are taken off guard and dont like that, and end up fighting it, and struggle throught the peak and never really get to the meat of the experience. You cannot approach like it's a tryptamine, and try to get what you want out of salvia..it just never works that way.
If you do choose to ever try it..I would seriousily suggest you do it in complete darkness and silence..no distrations at all..and have a sitter at least for the first time.. It not at all like classic hallucinogens, and doesn't usually have the same style of trippy feelings that go along with them..it's more of a complete dimensional warp, or astral projection device..it does not feel like a drug at all at a full dose..it feels like a reality shift.
Some have compared it to ketamine, but much more powerful and in you're face, and stranger. I have never tried ketamine yet so I cant speak to that.
The most convincing experiences of actually beings outside of myself in another place altogether I have ever had have come from salvia divinorum, more so than any tryptamine.
Most people are so sook up from the realness and bizzarness of it that they never ever try again..which is sorta a shame becasue it can really show one amazing things..I felt the same way after my first breakthrough..I kept wondering hwo inthe hell anyone could ever want to do that! But it was in a less than ideal setting outdorrs with music and too many things to distract me. I went back though many times and I find it completely facinating..the most interdimensional experience I could possible imagine. Spice may be more beautiful, but salvia seems so undeniably real, when you are there it's like you are completely convinved that it is really happpening.
In real low doses it is probabily the best tool I could imagine for meditation and quieting the mind..but some dont agree.
Anyway it's weird stuff..
With DMT and salvai together, a very light dose of salvia with spice is great. The salvia widens the inner visual screen and helps you feel outside of you'reself, so the breakthrough is easier, less forced..
I actaully enjoy a very light dose of spice at times with a large dose of salvia though..I like the added light that the tryptamines add to the salvia hyperspace.
Noone of this does justice to salvia at all though..it's way too hard a thing to talk about..it's just sooo damn wierd..It has definatily humbled me though over and over again, at times completely blowing my mind any any sense of reality, leaving me desperatily grapsing at any sense of the "me" I know know trying to put the pieces of my ego selg back together.
I would also like to add that in NO WAY does any ammount of experience with calssical hallucinogens prepare one for a real salvinorin A journey. I actaully think that insome cases people with lots of other experiences get over confident when approaching salvia, and are completely thrown off. I dont understand why people look down on salvia, trying to compare it up against other tryptamines..they are nothing alike.. Also people who onlyhave experience with salvia, sometimes are put off of the prospect of woringing with classical hallucinogens thinking they are all like that..they are nothing alike.
