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Experience with 4-AcO-DMT

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fireup6

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I had a bag which i estimated had ~70 mg of substance in it, so i eyeballed roughly half of it and took it as an oral dose, it was probably about 40mg.

I felt it kicking in in about 10 minutes, which was surprising to me. I had planned on waiting for the effects and then going outside for a walk, but it quickly became obvious to me that i could not. I lay down and it dawned on me that I'm about to have a really bad time.

The next 5 hours of laying on my bed are what i can only describe as hell. Every "constant" that i normally would hold on to during my trips was ripped away from me. I was alone, naked, laying in a sea of insanity begging for mercy. I found myself repeating "please help me god" for a good duration of the experience, and I'm not religious. What i was searching for was some kind of idea or what i call a "constant" that i could use as some sort of reference point to how deep i was in, but i couldn't find anything. For a while i could open my eyes and look around the room to make sure i was still there, but after some time this became impossible. Ego, time, memories, sanity, everything was up for grabs.

I saw the universe as a cycle of birth, death, happiness, and sadness. I felt being reborn probably a dozen times. I got the odd feeling that there were forces out there that were doing this to me, toying with me, plucking each string in my brain triggering either extreme fear or extreme happyness. Rational thought was out the window, i felt like i would spend an eternity in this chaotic hyper-dimensional universe.

After what seemed like an eternity i felt like i was coming down. I had no idea how long i lay there, but it could have been days. Was actually only a few hour. After a while i was able to stand up and go take a piss.

An incredibly humbling experience. I didn't gain much of anything besides the obvious "don't do that again". It's difficult for me to put this in the right context because i defiantly wasn't expecting what had occurred. I had taken ~15 mg doses before and i was fine. I didn't expect anything nearly as chaotic. Not sure what to make of anything right now.
 
damn dude, do you have a scale? Eyeballing rc's is a no no imo. Glad you made it out ok, swim has been experimenting with 4-aco-dmt resulting in varying effects. Last time the dose was bumped up to 26mg and it just left swim dysphoric for a few hours. It almost feels like a mushroom trip that never gets going.
 
Um yeah, glad you're alright, but do not eyeball anything that has such a low threshold dose! Just 30mg can be a trying experience for me, you might have taken more than 40mg!
 
Seven said:
damn dude, do you have a scale? Eyeballing rc's is a no no imo. Glad you made it out ok, swim has been experimenting with 4-aco-dmt resulting in varying effects. Last time the dose was bumped up to 26mg and it just left swim dysphoric for a few hours. It almost feels like a mushroom trip that never gets going.

This happened to swim a few times with 22 and 26mg. when he done 33mg it got going. Yes dont eyeball, you always read of these bad expereinces when people do that, swims friend done that and had a difficult experience with this one
 
I wonder what kind of experience you have with psychedelics, 40mg fumarate should be roughly similar to 6-7g cubensis, definitely not an unmanageable dose
but if you wanted to go out while tripping I guess you didn't do your homework ;)
 
justine said:
I wonder what kind of experience you have with psychedelics, 40mg fumarate should be roughly similar to 6-7g cubensis, definitely not an unmanageable dose
but if you wanted to go out while tripping I guess you didn't do your homework ;)

Not much experience, just a bit. I heard stories of people walking around and going outside on 4-aco but when i sat up in my bed to take off my sweater i realized that i couldn't move my arms normally, i can't imagine what it would have been like to stand up.

I can't say it was a completely bad experience, when the peak was subsiding and the experience became less chaotic i remember finding myself smiling and laughing a lot. It came on fast and it came on very strong, and i think that scared me and caused the fear and negative emotions.
 
fireup6 said:
justine said:
I wonder what kind of experience you have with psychedelics, 40mg fumarate should be roughly similar to 6-7g cubensis, definitely not an unmanageable dose
but if you wanted to go out while tripping I guess you didn't do your homework ;)

Not much experience, just a bit. I heard stories of people walking around and going outside on 4-aco but when i sat up in my bed to take off my sweater i realized that i couldn't move my arms normally, i can't imagine what it would have been like to stand up.

I can't say it was a completely bad experience, when the peak was subsiding and the experience became less chaotic i remember finding myself smiling and laughing a lot. It came on fast and it came on very strong, and i think that scared me and caused the fear and negative emotions.

I doubt many people go walking around with more than 25mg but, well, next time you'll be prepared ! :)
 
Wow, yeah. I read the first line... "I had 70mg and i eyeballed roughly half of it...." and my eyes went BULGE. 40mg of this 4-aco-DMT or O-Acetylpsilocin is A LOT.

SWIM took ~20mg and had an enjoyable, although emotional, experience. I did notice that it was simmelar to psilocybin, and DMT to some extent.

Time and time again, It's Mindset set, set and and setting: SWIM took it because he was bored and feeling adventurous and consequently found himself searching for meaning in the trip. It was lovely though, very clear and very beautiful. 3/5 on shulgin's scale.
 
Sorry to hear about your rough trip.

Your sister triied 4AcO-DMT recently, insufflating 25mgs. It was at a cottage in the winter towards the end of the day. The 1st part of trip was divine, while she walked around in awe of and communing with nature. The visuals were superb. Then the sun went down and it got too cold to stay out of doors, so she went in. She also thought lounging in bed might be the way to pass the trip, but lacking any external focus or stimulation, it caused her trip to become very introverted and isolated. Your sister found that part of the trip less than enjoyable, so she can relate to your experience.

Long trips alone without an external focus are now on Sisters black list.
 
Hmm... I have done 30mg of 4acodmt and it was quite wonderful. 3/5 on Shulgin's scale.
My friends have tried 50-60mg and unfortunately had a very bad trip, mainly because of some external factors I think.
Now, here's the weird part. My other friend and his gf took 25-30mg each (a week ago) and NOTHING happened whatsoever. As far as I know they had not done any other drugs in the past few days so I can't imagine cross tolerance is an issue, but I will verify that...
 
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