well, swim is working with a generous harvest, so swim has no need to buy virola, swim simply wants to find a tek for extracting the 5-MeO-DMT from the venom.
And I promise you, no toads are harmed during these collecting ceremonies. I would be more than willing to argue that the toads we make contact with, end up with a better quality of living than they had in the first place. The group I work with collects them from the inner city washes that are filled with heavy pollutants which cause a lot of them to abnormally die, and so we relocate them to nearby areas that are not nearly as effected by human destruction or dispassion. There is no way we can save all of them, as there are hundreds of thousands in the city washes alone, but we do what we can, and give back as much as possible. The endeavor has been blessed by game and fish, and we have the support of the locals. Even on the subject of milking them, when we really get into the discussion, most 'normal' folks end up joining us for the annual divinity/hyperspace ceremony which we only hold during the monsoon season once a year.
To us, its more about helping the toads than it is collecting venom, the past couple of years we had not even needed to collect, though still continued our work for the Alvarius.
To me, a plant and an animal, are equally as intelligent and infinitely sacred, no different than me and nature, its all an extension of divine mind, and both or all deserve the utmost respect like every other pixel of this suggestion called reality.
Beating up toads to me, would be shipping them through the mail. Something I cannot understand justification of. But, then again, others cannot understand my justification, so to each his own. hopefully with heart.
And btw, milking toads I have learned over the years, is an art, there is a way to do it where you do not have to even search for the toad, the toad will come to you, literally connect via your heart, and again literally walk into your palms, and psychically ask to be milked. You can call this delusion, but it comes to me with the same crystal clear validity that the DMT and 5-MeO-DMT spaces provide, more real than what I thought was real as my life.
anyways, thanks friends, swim is going to start experimenting, swim will post any worthwile results, in the meantime, any experiential comments would be greatly welcomed.
