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Extraction emulsion issue from blender

Thehogg

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Say someone mixed the mimosa bark with the vinegar and tap water, obliterated it in a blender, then added 40g lye to 600ml of solution, then the naptha, and blended the piss out of it again but wound up with an emulsion. What would they have in the naptha if they let it sit for days, blended on occasion, but ended up having to put table salt and let sit overnight in to break the emulsion?
 
Someone should not expect anything other than the results obtained by more gentle mixing. Emulsion is a physical state, not chemical, so someone might expect to have the same ingredients in the naphtha as normal in these extractions.

If the naphtha layer is clear after adding salt to the emulsion and sitting then there's nothing else suspended in it, so there remains only the dissolved substances, someone might find that any DMT in there is in the more yellow form due to having sat in base solution for a long time, but there's nothing wrong with that.

Enjoy your product and maybe don't blend the piss out of it once the naphtha is in there next time, just sloshing and inversion is enough. Better to mix gently for longer than vigorously for a short time.
 
Someone should not expect anything other than the results obtained by more gentle mixing. Emulsion is a physical state, not chemical, so someone might expect to have the same ingredients in the naphtha as normal in these extractions.

If the naphtha layer is clear after adding salt to the emulsion and sitting then there's nothing else suspended in it, so there remains only the dissolved substances, someone might find that any DMT in there is in the more yellow form due to having sat in base solution for a long time, but there's nothing wrong with that.

Enjoy your product and maybe don't blend the piss out of it once the naphtha is in there next time, just sloshing and inversion is enough. Better to mix gently for longer than vigorously for a short time.
Someone should not expect anything other than the results obtained by more gentle mixing. Emulsion is a physical state, not chemical, so someone might expect to have the same ingredients in the naphtha as normal in these extractions.

If the naphtha layer is clear after adding salt to the emulsion and sitting then there's nothing else suspended in it, so there remains only the dissolved substances, someone might find that any DMT in there is in the more yellow form due to having sat in base solution for a long time, but there's nothing wrong with that.

Enjoy your product and maybe don't blend the piss out of it once the naphtha is in there next time, just sloshing and inversion is enough. Better to mix gently for longer than vigorously for a short time.
thanks! Naptha is yellow. Much cleaner than it was. Salt worked super well.
 
so I’ve had trouble getting crystals. Tried a few things bssically just repeating steps or adding more lye. I have white what appear to be tiny crystals in the used naptha. I tried to get him out with a coffee filter, but they went through. At least I think they did. I’ll put it on low heat and I’ve been evaporating it slowly, and the crystals are getting more abundant dropping out of solution. Is this likely DMT or salt or something? I don’t think my freezer is cold enough to get these things to precipitate.
 
At least I think they did. I’ll put it on low heat and I’ve been evaporating it slowly, and the crystals are getting more abundant dropping out of solution. Is this likely DMT or salt or something?
What is "it" in this sentence? If it's the naphtha then it won't be DMT salt dropping out as the salts are not soluble in naphtha, it's how the whole process works.

The solution of DMT in naphtha needs to be concentrated enough for freeze precipitation to work, so if you used too much naphtha then you won't get crystals in the freezer.

Evaporating it down ( as I think you're doing ) is a way to concentrate the solution more, a good guide is if you can see clouds forming when you blow on the top of the naphtha at room temperature then you're near saturation and it should be good to go in the freezer.
 
What is "it" in this sentence? If it's the naphtha then it won't be DMT salt dropping out as the salts are not soluble in naphtha, it's how the whole process works.

The solution of DMT in naphtha needs to be concentrated enough for freeze precipitation to work, so if you used too much naphtha then you won't get crystals in the freezer.

Evaporating it down ( as I think you're doing ) is a way to concentrate the solution more, a good guide is if you can see clouds forming when you blow on the top of the naphtha at room temperature then you're near saturation and it should be good to go in the freezer.
The caveat to this being whether the freezer is cold enough. All the same, even a weaker freezer should furnish more than nothing, and the naphtha can be reused post-freeze to obtain more product if it's there, as well as processad (e.g., mini-A/B) to recover additional yield from what's otherwise trapped in the naphtha.

One more possibility is that the formulation of the naphtha is preventing freeze precipitation from being effective. Check its SDS for the aromatics content if at all possible.
 
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