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Kaypet

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Quick question (I hope I'm posting this right because I've never posted in a forum) I'm useing the joshisoms tek & was @ the shake 10x letting it separate in between w/3 shakes left my friend fell asleep he woke up 5 hours later so do we finish last 3 shakes? Or have to start over? If start over then what part do I start with? I thank you in advance for any help you can give
 
Hi, welcome!

You'll be fine at this stage just to take the naphtha off and set it up for freeze precipitation.

Pro tip: use a glass jug, or similar, to hold the naphtha while you pipette it off the base soup, before transferring it to the freeze precipitation dish/vessel. This will help to ensure your final product is free from base contamination. To be even more sure, you can include a bit of, e.g., brine in the glass jug to catch any stray droplets of base soup.

In general, it's better not to fall asleep during procedures involving hazardous chemicals and controlled substances ;)

Be sure to let us know how this turns out. Also, I'll be moving this thread over to the FAQ section where it belongs.
 
Hi, welcome!

You'll be fine at this stage just to take the naphtha off and set it up for freeze precipitation.

Pro tip: use a glass jug, or similar, to hold the naphtha while you pipette it off the base soup, before transferring it to the freeze precipitation dish/vessel. This will help to ensure your final product is free from base contamination. To be even more sure, you can include a bit of, e.g., brine in the glass jug to catch any stray droplets of base soup.

In general, it's better not to fall asleep during procedures involving hazardous chemicals and controlled substances ;)

Be sure to let us know how this turns out. Also, I'll be moving this thread over to the FAQ section where it belongs.
So don't put the 1st pull in cool dark room go straight to freezer percip instead? Thank you & yes I will let you know the outcome
 
Well, slower cooling will tend to promote formation of larger crystals, so by all means go that route if your goal incudes maximising crystal size. Placing your freeze precip dish in an insulated container, plus including a fridge-cooling stage would also be helpful options towards this end.
Ok so next question here's a pic & as you see you can tell that there's 2 layers but even the top layer is reddish not clear as it's been on the pulls done in the past
 

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Ok so next question here's a pic & as you see you can tell that there's 2 layers but even the top layer is reddish not clear as it's been on the pulls done in the past
Are all the ingredients from the same batch as previously? And are you sure you've added enough base? Was the bark perhaps very finely powdered? Was it properly hydrated before the naphtha was added? What happens if you separate the naphtha and shake it up with a little sodium carbonate (washing soda) solution?

The dark tinge could also be the result of standing for 5 hours, although that's less likely.
 
Are all the ingredients from the same batch as previously? And are you sure you've added enough base? Was the bark perhaps very finely powdered? Was it properly hydrated before the naphtha was added? What happens if you separate the naphtha and shake it up with a little sodium carbonate (washing soda) solution?

The dark tinge could also be the result of standing for 5 hours, although that's less likely.
This was a new batch & yes bark was powdered (I've always got my bark from the same place & always great yield) here's a pic from last night the new pic where everything looks reddish is after sitting now approx 10 hours. Btw what do you mean "washing soda"?
 

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Washing soda is a common name for sodium carbonate (the decahydrate, to be precise), as opposed to baking soda, which is sodium bicarbonate. Common names are used for the purpose of layperson inclusivity.

Or did you mean something else by "what do you mean"? :LOL:

You're better off judging the colour after separating the naphtha from the base soup. Plus, it's looking turbid as well as reddish, so I'm still inclined to think it might be particulates.
 
Quick question (I hope I'm posting this right because I've never posted in a forum) I'm useing the joshisoms tek & was @ the shake 10x letting it separate in between w/3 shakes left my friend fell asleep he woke up 5 hours later so do we finish last 3 shakes? Or have to start over? If start over then what part do I start with? I thank you in advance for any help you can give
How do I wash it or get it to seperate again
 
At it's simplest, washing the naphtha would involve including a finger or so of sodium carbonate solution in the bottom of the jug into which you're pipetting. Squirting the naphtha through the aqueous layer each time may help to clean it up.

Otherwise, fine particulates can take months to settle out - in absence of a centrifuge - and filtering them is also something of a pain. But, first things first - we need to see how it looks when removed from the extraction jar.

How were you planning to remove the naphtha from on top of the base soup?
 
At it's simplest, washing the naphtha would involve including a finger or so of sodium carbonate solution in the bottom of the jug into which you're pipetting. Squirting the naphtha through the aqueous layer each time may help to clean it up.

Otherwise, fine particulates can take months to settle out - in absence of a centrifuge - and filtering them is also something of a pain. But, first things first - we need to see how it looks when removed from the extraction jar.

How were you planning to remove the naphtha from on top of the base soup?
A glass turkey baster
 
A glass turkey baster
Jolly good - on reflection, I'd be inclined to suggest adding a little more lye solution to the extraction mixture, followed by swirling it around a few more times. There's a chance it may not have had enough base added, so it won't do any harm to see whether this will help clear up the redness.

After that, simply get the naphtha out of there and see how it looks. Part of me wonders if we're looking at some brick dust or rust. If you were able to separate the red dust there would be ways of testing it, mainly for iron content.
 
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