I've just recently dived into the extraction and DMT experience and I've only had a little success so far.
I started out with 100g of mhrb and I've managed to get maybe 60-100mg of spice out of it. My first extractions were with Bestine and managed to get 30mg or so from one pull, with all other pulls producing nothing. I have to admit that my very first pull produced nice looking snowflakes but they ended up dissolving for some reason (probably my fault, letting the solution warm before trying to pour, not sure why I did that) and when I went to re-freeze with a bit more bestine I ended up spilling it, so I may have wasted a lot of the initial product. I used about 1/3 of the bark in each solution I've created and I've tried pulling with Bestine with 2 of them. The next extractions were with Naptha and the first pull (with the last 35g or so of bark) produced about 30-40mg of powder as well. The first batch with bestine was very white and the second with naptha was a little discolored, but still pretty white. I've been doing STB with a slightly less than 1:1 lye to bark ratio. My bestine pulls were at room temp and my first naptha pull (the good one) was at room temp, while the latest one was heated to around 55C. The last, heated pull was with all of the remaining powder/lye solutions with naptha (from 3 different containers). I put in more than the recommended naptha and tried evaporating it down, but I ended up with almost no product (just a thin coating that I had to scrape to even make it visible, not even 1/10 of 30mg), and it was pretty much pure yellow. I didn't save it. I'm going by Noman's tek, roughly, with the only differences described already.
A few notes on what I did. I added lye to water. I added bark to that. I shook that a whole lot. I let that sit for a day or more, I added solvent and turned the containers end over end for about a minute, four times for each pull, and then put each pull into a separate container that I froze.
Is it likely that I wasted a lot of the initial product? Even so, I can't imagine there was so much in the first, loss pull that I only got 60mg out of the rest. I'm not confident that the bark I got was particularly good quality, random seller on ebay. Everything I'm using has been glass, my freezer's cold enough to make crystals, and I have definitely gotten at least some spice pulled, but I want to get some tips before I get more bark. I'll likely continue to try pulling from the remaining solutions and hopefully I'll manage to get better luck.
Could it be helpful to try a different tek? I was considering doing an A/B next. I was going to get a significantly large amount of bark to work with, both because I enjoyed the experiences so far and because I wanted to have more to work with. I don't think I'll have problems getting access to materials but I don't want to get more than I need and I'm not sure what would work best. I may go for a luxury item or two (separatory funnel instead of glass baster and eye dropper) but I'm a bit of a miser... Basically, I'm going to try a larger scale extraction next and I want to to make sure I do it right. I was reading about certain specific plastics being good for some teks, but I'm not sure which teks with which chemicals or which plastics. I'm not trying to make so much at once that I need to store it for a long time. I've made enough mistakes at first that I'll be quite certain to avoid carelessness in any future extractions.
I tried smoking both good batches and they were definitely potent but I only got my technique right as I used up the very last bit... which is just a little frustrating. This whole post seems like a mess to me but I guess the general idea gets across somewhere...
I started out with 100g of mhrb and I've managed to get maybe 60-100mg of spice out of it. My first extractions were with Bestine and managed to get 30mg or so from one pull, with all other pulls producing nothing. I have to admit that my very first pull produced nice looking snowflakes but they ended up dissolving for some reason (probably my fault, letting the solution warm before trying to pour, not sure why I did that) and when I went to re-freeze with a bit more bestine I ended up spilling it, so I may have wasted a lot of the initial product. I used about 1/3 of the bark in each solution I've created and I've tried pulling with Bestine with 2 of them. The next extractions were with Naptha and the first pull (with the last 35g or so of bark) produced about 30-40mg of powder as well. The first batch with bestine was very white and the second with naptha was a little discolored, but still pretty white. I've been doing STB with a slightly less than 1:1 lye to bark ratio. My bestine pulls were at room temp and my first naptha pull (the good one) was at room temp, while the latest one was heated to around 55C. The last, heated pull was with all of the remaining powder/lye solutions with naptha (from 3 different containers). I put in more than the recommended naptha and tried evaporating it down, but I ended up with almost no product (just a thin coating that I had to scrape to even make it visible, not even 1/10 of 30mg), and it was pretty much pure yellow. I didn't save it. I'm going by Noman's tek, roughly, with the only differences described already.
A few notes on what I did. I added lye to water. I added bark to that. I shook that a whole lot. I let that sit for a day or more, I added solvent and turned the containers end over end for about a minute, four times for each pull, and then put each pull into a separate container that I froze.
Is it likely that I wasted a lot of the initial product? Even so, I can't imagine there was so much in the first, loss pull that I only got 60mg out of the rest. I'm not confident that the bark I got was particularly good quality, random seller on ebay. Everything I'm using has been glass, my freezer's cold enough to make crystals, and I have definitely gotten at least some spice pulled, but I want to get some tips before I get more bark. I'll likely continue to try pulling from the remaining solutions and hopefully I'll manage to get better luck.
Could it be helpful to try a different tek? I was considering doing an A/B next. I was going to get a significantly large amount of bark to work with, both because I enjoyed the experiences so far and because I wanted to have more to work with. I don't think I'll have problems getting access to materials but I don't want to get more than I need and I'm not sure what would work best. I may go for a luxury item or two (separatory funnel instead of glass baster and eye dropper) but I'm a bit of a miser... Basically, I'm going to try a larger scale extraction next and I want to to make sure I do it right. I was reading about certain specific plastics being good for some teks, but I'm not sure which teks with which chemicals or which plastics. I'm not trying to make so much at once that I need to store it for a long time. I've made enough mistakes at first that I'll be quite certain to avoid carelessness in any future extractions.
I tried smoking both good batches and they were definitely potent but I only got my technique right as I used up the very last bit... which is just a little frustrating. This whole post seems like a mess to me but I guess the general idea gets across somewhere...
