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DMT Lexus

DMT Lexus

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Hello everyone,
I took a breakthrough dose but rather then laying back with my eyes closed and journeying to a different realm I almost as soon as it hit my eyes shoot open, I sat up and looked around and then like pages of a flip book was show all the other alternate/parallel universe I exist in. I am certain there is a multiverse now. If you have never tried keeping your eyes open I recommend trying it once. The feeling can be a little disconcerting but amazing and transformative. If anyone has had similar experiences I would love to hear about them or thoughts on the realities I saw. I even felt like those people for while I was there. The whole room would change furniture would be different everything, items would even be gone in one in back in another. One time, I was opening and closing my eyes and was shown how our reality is folded into the DMT reality. Everytime I would open my eyes, there would be nothingness where the pieces were taken to be folded for the other reality. As I would close them again, another piece would be removed and folded into the closed eyed realm.
Well had to write this down thoughts or comments welcome, peace and love to all. :love:

DMT Lexus
 
You make it sound tempting to try this :twisted:

TBH, I kept my eyes open after smoking DMT fb for first time and not gonna lie, it was scary... so without even really thinking about it, all subsequent trips have been eyes shut. To be fair, first DMT trip is all kinds of new territory that made it scary, not just open eye visual effects. Now that I'm a little more comfortable with it, you've got me verrry curious and compelled to try more eyes opened.

In that one and only open-eye experience that I had, everything in front of me became laser sharp with edges of real objects that became laser edges, each object with its' own color. As I was panicking, my ego ended up fighting it from continuing on, so it was very short lived, but it felt like I was witnessing a very lit up world literally coming to life, and they originated from objects in the real, tangible world. The last thing I was looking at was my older pH meter base including the little tower with two holes at top that holds pH and temperature probes. It is my conviction that if I hadn't fought it from going any further, that pH meter was going to become the entry point for a 5+ dimension wild ride.

I imagine, unless there's stimuli available to keep somewhat more grounded to earth, the experience will progress to a level (with higher dose etc) where it won't matter if eyes are open or shut, the third eye takes top priority over binocular vision.
 
Yeah bruv, I know this feeling. It takes effort to keep eyes opened and I trip with closed eyes mostly. To be honest I feel quite uncomfortable when I open my eyes during the trip. Eyes closed, usually at night when everyones gone or asleep and without music because it does tend to ground you and influence in the trip. In the dark, it doesn’t really make a difference closed or open. Ride it out. Eyes closed, warm and loving, just soaking in the goodness.
Come to, very light visual enhancement still remains. Paint in my ceiling looks awfully detailed and like cogworks, realizing Im still pretty high. Eyes close again to let it pass further. Eh, I opened my eyes and still viewing some hyperspace or something, what is that, huh? Some entity is floating towards the light and I'm tripping balls slightly recognised I've smoked something, yep, it was DMT. Super improved reality, I would say. Nope, still keep my eyes opened, it payed off. It was kinda edge it was necessary to cross.

For those of you who read all of that, thanks. For those of you who have input, feel free. For those of you getting deeper, just like I have been- don't be afraid, don't be ashamed. I would introduce you to thoughts and insights. :)
 
Breakthrough is when you're fully immersed into the other side. Open and closed is not different, it takes over both. We experimented alot with open and closed eyes and had the same result. I think you just hit a dose right below breakthrough this why so intense but you can see your room.
 
famine said:
Breakthrough is when you're fully immersed into the other side. Open and closed is not different, it takes over both. We experimented alot with open and closed eyes and had the same result. I think you just hit a dose right below breakthrough this why so intense but you can see your room.
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While I agree that the scenarios so far described in this thread are definitely of sub-breakthrough experiences, I would argue that it is possible to break through and incorporate input from the 5 senses of this world. I have not experienced it myself, but there is a story Terence McKenna tells of a trip where he did DMT at height of LSD trip during holidays when nobody else was around, and then a tenant of apartment he rented out came back unexpectedly and made a ruckus running up the stairs, then started beating on his door (I think because she couldn't find her key). It brought the break-thru trip into this world, with entities jumping around his house :shock: He finally answered the door and spoke something to her in alien language, and she understood what was up and left...

I'm not sure if this is possible for us to do with a planned experiment in safe environment, but I do think it would make for potentially radical experience!
 
I think it's hard to be cut and dry on this topic. I've had "breakthrough" experiences where I'm not sure if my eyes are open or closed and sometimes am not sure if I can open my eyes. Then there are other times where I am in a "breakthrough" experience and there is a drastic difference between what I witness with my eyes open versus closed. In some of these instances, what I open my eyes to is part of my pragmatic reality, other times, not so much...

One love
 
Hmm. I find that I'm contradicting myself as I'm thinking this through; at this moment my personal definition of break-through incorporates a full departure from this reality and body. Once that takes place, and the trip starts incorporating elements from this world via the 5 senses, maybe it's not the breakthrough zone any more, but it weaves so tightly as a continuation of the breakthrough experience.. semantics can be exhausting lol. All I know is I'm out, and need to make moar.
 
Thank you for your contribution guys :love:
Yeah, I think the breakthrough is more about feeling as you can say, "yeah, I got breakthrough now".

I find very interesting that some people become "freezed" when they smoalk a lot but some of them can even walk during the trip, so I wouldn't say the breakthrough is about some physical incapability to move or do something.

I’ve had a similar experience where I was show we are all part of one larger whole entity, and every single person has a part to play in what “we” are building towards. It’s a surreal realisation but also provided me peace of mind to know that I’m in the right place. I was free to move but it wasn't necessary at this moment. And I could call it "the breakthrough".

I reached the conclusion that all of the matter in reality has been expanded, collapsed, recombined, and reconfigured infinite amount of times.

This is what creates the impression that “we’re all one”, all molecules and energy have been “as one” multiple times.


With love,
DMT Lexus.
 
Voidmatrix said:
I think it's hard to be cut and dry on this topic. I've had "breakthrough" experiences where I'm not sure if my eyes are open or closed and sometimes am not sure if I can open my eyes. Then there are other times where I am in a "breakthrough" experience and there is a drastic difference between what I witness with my eyes open versus closed. In some of these instances, what I open my eyes to is part of my pragmatic reality, other times, not so much...

One love
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Yes. I think it is about the level of immersion. And also a gradual phenomenon on the far end of a scale rather than a single point.

5-MeO-DMT, wich i have never done myself, (yet) is said to be the most powerfull psychedelic there is in terms of the experience itself, and supposedly it is not very visual at all.
 
DMT Lexus said:
Yeah bruv, I know this feeling. It takes effort to keep eyes opened and I trip with closed eyes mostly. To be honest I feel quite uncomfortable when I open my eyes during the trip. Eyes closed, usually at night when everyones gone or asleep and without music because it does tend to ground you and influence in the trip. In the dark, it doesn’t really make a difference closed or open. Ride it out. Eyes closed, warm and loving, just soaking in the goodness.
Come to, very light visual enhancement still remains. Paint in my ceiling looks awfully detailed and like cogworks, realizing Im still pretty high. Eyes close again to let it pass further. Eh, I opened my eyes and still viewing some hyperspace or something, what is that, huh? Some entity is floating towards the light and I'm tripping balls slightly recognised I've smoked something, yep, it was DMT. Super improved reality, I would say. Nope, still keep my eyes opened, it payed off. It was kinda edge it was necessary to cross.

For those of you who read all of that, thanks. For those of you who have input, feel free. For those of you getting deeper, just like I have been- don't be afraid, don't be ashamed. I would introduce you to thoughts and insights. :)
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sounds very interesting to me. I want to face fear and ego head on and see a perception outside of what my 5 senses show me. Would be incredible to experience it. thanks for your iput
 
Darkness has it's place but I prefer eyes open, in the woods. Even eye contact if possible. In nature. This isn't solely a key for unlocking OBE's or far flung perceptual vistas. These are just facets of a different mode of being altogether, a mode of synesthesiac oneness that all the ancients raved about; like a non-local resonance tomography system. Our dormant perceptual ability/sense of self that DMT begins to unlock is like an unimaginably complex interdimensional space ship finally becoming aware of itSelf (the cosmos) in ways we can't even begin to imagine at baseline
 
universecannon said:
Darkness has it's place but I prefer eyes open, in the woods. Even eye contact if possible. In nature. This isn't solely a key for unlocking OBE's or far flung perceptual vistas. These are just facets of a different mode of being altogether, a mode of synesthesiac oneness that all the ancients raved about; like a non-local resonance tomography system. Our dormant perceptual ability/sense of self that DMT begins to unlock is like an unimaginably complex interdimensional space ship finally becoming aware of itSelf (the cosmos) in ways we can't even begin to imagine at baseline
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Now I'd like to try it like that. I'm waiting for the better weather and conditions. And gonna trip like that. Thank you.

I had a trip at home when I came across an entity that kept projecting an awful demonic feeling onto me, trying to make me afraid of it. I identified it (during the trip) as some harmful/demonic/satanic force and exerted my own will to force it out of my space, out of my field of consciousness. More or less I realized that because of my own inner divinity I had power over myself, and it couldn't touch me. It was a pretty wild thirty-ish seconds and everything after that was all good vibes.
 
Entities told me that the only thing that exists is consciousness itself, in which consciousness is "God." We're all One, and this One is basically what we call "God," in which I call, "the One."

We're all God. But we're also individuals here and in death, but are still a part of him/it/all. Every atom in the universe is God. All the empty space is God. The other side, like the DMT realm/our real home, is also God.

I met God personally and "he" is grand and huge in the infinity. A golden light but also impossible colors. "He" has his own personality. Pure unconditional love, all-knowing, funny, kind, and just more.

It's what I experienced and it made more sense than any science or religion out there once you have that direct experience.

Eckhart Tolle believes that as well. God is consciousness therefore it’s in everything and always will be. If you’re connected to your consciousness you are aware, you’re everything or in other words God. It’s not an energy with you or on you it’s in you. When we say I love God we're really saying we love ourselves. We are live and that’s what God is.

To add to this, God couldn’t see himself because he was infinite, he wasn’t even sure if he actually existed or he was just a thought. Similar to that famous philosopher Descartes “I think therefore I am” etc.

So, if you’re infinite without space there isn’t anything outside of you to perceive you, there isn’t anything to reflect your image. Therefore, there is no way of knowing what you look like or if you are everything that is. So, when you’re everything you’re also nothing. In order to see yourself, reflect your image, experience yourself, you have to be the opposite of what God is, which is infinite, which means no space, time or matter.
When God created more “infinity” it would cancel itself out, it’s just more of that infinite essence there’s nothing to differentiate it. It’s like multiplying 1x1. So just like that he created the opposite, the womb, the woman, the universe, so he could pour his life source into her. We are the creation, incubating in the womb. I can go deeper and explain it further but you get the point…
Follow this train of thought and you can uncover so much more of our reality…

I tapped into the spirit within and DMT helped me put the final piece of the puzzle together.

Nature teaches us everything, macro and micro are the same due to fractal similarity of the universe. Study the micro and then project it onto the macro, or just opposite, it’s all the same and vice versa. Study an atom, study our Solar system, study the original trinity from Egypt (not the Christian trinity, it’s been altered to confuse us) where there is 3 there is balance, where there is 3 there is life… if you know you know ;)
 
DMT Lexus,

Thank you for sharing these fascinating reports and I love your conclusions at the end of the final post you made here.

Regarding your first post I instantly felt resonance remembering the end of a high dose Methoxetamine experience where I was surrounded by a gigantic spinning cylinder and it had slices of all different kinds of realities/parallel/multi-Universes. I came to the massively egotistical realization that it was up to me to CHOOSE one of these to get the insane and kalaedaescopic as well as nauseating spinning to stop. So, I arbitarily did. To this day, I often feel I chose poorly, :p


I always had great difficulty keeping my eyes open when I would vape large doses. It's like the trance would take me, regardless of my desires.

But, there was one memorable, open eyed breaktrough. I had vaped a big dose and lay down on a yoga mat on the floor on my back. Eyes closed, breakthrough is happening. I do not recall the content. Suddenly IRL a cat jumped on my chest from about 6 feet up on a tower. I reared, up, screamed, my eyes flew open and the room was FILLED with large cats, lunging at me, with open mouths and sharp teeth. I just rode it out and when I got back to a semblance of normality gave my kitty the evil eye.

I think given the diversity of physiology of users, diversity of ROA's and bioavability in a limited timespan almost anything is possible with DMT experience.

-Pandora
 
Hi Pandora

I am glad to see you in this thread, I am pleased to read your sayings, because I see that you write them from the heart and with kindness in your heart. And that makes me happy :)


As you rightly pointed out, what we see and feel under DMT is so different that you can truly expect anything.

I have also noticed that at very high dosages it is very difficult to keep your eyes open. I want to close them, and I get into such a deep trip that to open my eyes I need to make great efforts.

Often entities show what they want, as if I came to them for a performance. They either don't have the ability/favor to understand me, or they want to show what they can do.
i've tried to say them: "Nah, show me different things, I want you to reply about this." - and they pissed off, said "Nah, we do what we want!" - and started abusing my brains :d

This all is very unique and interesting, DMT is a mirracle same as our entire life.
 
Pandora said:
DMT Lexus,

Thank you for sharing these fascinating reports and I love your conclusions at the end of the final post you made here.

Regarding your first post I instantly felt resonance remembering the end of a high dose Methoxetamine experience where I was surrounded by a gigantic spinning cylinder and it had slices of all different kinds of realities/parallel/multi-Universes. I came to the massively egotistical realization that it was up to me to CHOOSE one of these to get the insane and kalaedaescopic as well as nauseating spinning to stop. So, I arbitarily did. To this day, I often feel I chose poorly, :p


I always had great difficulty keeping my eyes open when I would vape large doses. It's like the trance would take me, regardless of my desires.

But, there was one memorable, open eyed breaktrough. I had vaped a big dose and lay down on a yoga mat on the floor on my back. Eyes closed, breakthrough is happening. I do not recall the content. Suddenly IRL a cat jumped on my chest from about 6 feet up on a tower. I reared, up, screamed, my eyes flew open and the room was FILLED with large cats, lunging at me, with open mouths and sharp teeth. I just rode it out and when I got back to a semblance of normality gave my kitty the evil eye.

I think given the diversity of physiology of users, diversity of ROA's and bioavability in a limited timespan almost anything is possible with DMT experience.

-Pandora
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Seems like our cats always know what we are doing. Its like they have 1 foot in this reality, and another foot in the other side... Glad you were able to ride it out Pandora!

My little trip breaker is a couch-hippo who always wants to lick my face!!!
 
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