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88

Rising Star
Most recent journey:

went into this trip with a lot of fear.

My previous attempt last night had gone very wrong; I'm staying in a hotel room at the moment, and it is a non-smoking room. I had a fear that by smoking DMT in the room, I would set off the fire alarm. So I had worked out that there was an extractor fan in the bathroom, so I would smoke in there. Thats' what I did the first night; but it went wrong. I didn't get the dose right, and it was all a bit red and squelchy and here, rather than there.

Next night, I went in deep, and it was clear to me that hyperspace is another place; it exists independently of me.

The following night, I positioned a chair in the main room, but near the bathroom door,; I was venturing out, but still hedging my bets. The trip started very badly; I don't think I got a breakthrough dose, because on the third drag, I held back, not wanting to put too much smoke into the room. Immediately, I felt my head being physically pushed to the left, toward the bathroom. It went blue, tunnelly, and became very dark in feel and tone. I moved my head back again, to face forward into the room, saying, no. I tried to keep my eyes open but a female entity rushed up to my face and literally pushed me back in. I closed my eyes, and the dark stuff was everywhere.

I got very angry with it.

"What are you guys doing, man? Look, I cleaned the hotel room up, I brought you to a nice place, what the fuck are you doing? I don't want this."

I fought my way out of the trip. Stood up, even managed to make a cup of tea somehow. Paced around a lot. It was not good.

So today's trip was preceded by a great deal of trepidation. I was really scared. This was not the fear of a fire alarm; this was the deep, animal fear of being transposed into a hyper-dimensional place that I really didn't like and really didn't want to be in. This was not fear; it was Fear.

But I knew that I had to go back in. It took me six or seven hours before I was ready.

I packed a very large dose, thinking that anything less than a breakthrough amount had in my limited experience led to unpleasantness. You have to punch a hole right through, and I wasn't going to take any chances.

I went into the bathroom, to feel safe and remove the nagging worry that had, in my opinion, fucked the last trip.

I went in. It was a breakthrough trip.

I t was once again familiar in it's structure. Carrier wave sound; things happening very quickly. Jim-jam pulsing, rushing, spinning and transforming itself at light speed. But I wasn't going in for the light show; I didn't want to be 'blinded by the candy, stunned by the astonishment'. I arrived into what I'll call "the main trip space" ... centre-stage, if you prefer. It's very much a place; a place where space and time bend, which feels vaulted, contained, but at the same time in constant movement; a place of intricate, flexing pulsing, breathing, and quite impossible spatial relationships. It is a place of more than three dimensions, and the mind is stunned by it's complexity. It's always breath-taking.

The joker was there to meet me, and he was casually showing me around. He was a bit bored. There were occasional glimpses of scenes; people, a ship? Lots of jim-jam, going big, then small, big then small … fractalising and so on. The usual; same but different.

Then I feel joker rolling his eyes and non-vocally say, with a big sigh, my name over and over and over again.

I realised what he was saying. I said, “this is all about me. Everything I'm seeing. Its' me”

We carried on moving from 'room' the 'room'.

“Hey. It's all I've got to work with”

I realised my FOCUS was internal, and upon realising this, the roof of the vault opened like a star, and I had a glimpse of an infinite, shared space beyond.

But it closed up again.

Joker shuffled me out of there and I was in a different space. I can't really describe it; I wasn't paying attention to the look of things anymore. This was a lesson. Joker had shown me something, but there was work to be done before I could progress. So I was posted off to the workshop/ psychic hospital/ school-room/ whatever place.

(At some point, somehow, I physically moved out of the bathroom, and lay on a bed. I don't know how I did this; but when I came back, I was on the bed, and not in the bathroom)

The lesson began. The place we go to on DMT is, simply, shared consciousness. Jung's Objective Psyche; the noosphere; whatever you want to call it. But it is a place where consciousness is shared.

However;our identities as humans are built on fear. Fear is very useful, and we wouldn't have evolved without it. It saved our ancestors from sabre-toothed tigers and the like. But fear traps consciousness. Because fear is about self- preservation, and that is the complete opposite of shared consciousness, which requires self-annihilation.

So the little guys, the insects, the machine elves in the psychic emergency room set to work on me. That's their job. It's what they do. They are the ones you see on the way out. They've generally appeared as insects to me. But their job is to put you back together the way you're meant to be. They fix you. They are the ones who give you 'the gift'. It feels like a gift because they're fixing shit, putting your mind back together.

Then I had a very bizarre experience. I desperately wanted to remember what I'd learnt. And then I started talking out loud.

It was English, and intelligible. It was to a large extent, in terms of ideas, what I have written here. But I was aware that it wasn't me formulating the words. I'll give you an excerpt. At one point, these were the words coming out of my mouth:

“You're saying this because, by vocalising ideas, you're accessing a different part of the brain. Effectively, by saying it out loud, the knowledge is being written into another part of your brain where it will be easier for you to remember and work with. It's like copying something off the network onto your local drive. That's why vocalisation is quite common experience on DMT.”

Interesting.

Nothing to fear but fear itself.
 
88 said:
However;our identities as humans are built on fear. Fear is very useful, and we wouldn't have evolved without it. It saved our ancestors from sabre-toothed tigers and the like. But fear traps consciousness. Because fear is about self- preservation, and that is the complete opposite of shared consciousness, which requires self-annihilation.

Fascinating. Though I think it is the 'self' or ego that traps consciousness. And like Frodo walking to Mount Doom, we have to give it up or else we'll be in a world of trouble.
 
Interesting report 88, thanks for posting!

From my limited experience with DMT, I do believe it does push consciousness "out of the body". Where, I'm not sure - it may vary.

elphologist
 
You really need to just relax man!!!


DMT is not a push-button-choose-your-own-experience kind of thing.....REALLY!!!

Not only do you not get to physically control anything, it is also going to be a unique & random experience pretty much every time you do it.
That is one the many, oh so wonderful things about DMT!!
It's not just the same old boring & predictable drug-type effect every time! Instead, it is a whole new world, new beings, new dimensions & a relatively new experience almost every single time.

Of course that also means it's not exactly the kind of thing everyone out there can truly deal with productively, or even enjoy.
You seriously have to surrender 100%!!! And just observe!

What are you guys doing, man? Look, I cleaned the hotel room up, I brought you to a nice place, what the fuck are you doing? I don't want this.
Well ^there's your problem^ in screaming loud print!!!

DMT is not your girl friend, or a hot-date you take to "a nice place" to get what you want from her.:?: :!: :?:
Why are you trying to get "them" to accommodate you?
How about preparing yourself, for yourself....rather than setting up a nice room for something that is not even a part of this physical world!!!

The whole DMT expereince is all happening within your mind....whether or not these beings that we experience are real or not....they are only perceptible to you!! They are not physically in the room with you.
Ever watch someone else while they are in the DMT-trance? They basically look like they are sleeping, with the occasional smile, or other facial contortions.
But the room does not start spinning away & changing shape & dimensions to the other sober people in the room, only to the person who just inhaled some DMT.


BTW, NO....a fire alarm will not go off because of DMT VAPOR!!! They detect SMOKE.
Maybe if you blow a giant cloud straight into the thing.
Although, if you are vaporizing it correctly (not burning it, thus producing smoke) & holding it in your lungs long enough, only a tiny wisp of vapor is usually exhaled anyway....or nothing at all.
Vapor deposits & stays in your lungs....being tiny droplets of a liquid & all.
(Much more efficient than smoke, which for the most part, is pretty much just tiny particles of ash.)


Hope that helps a bit,
WS
 
WSaged said:
You really need to just relax man!!!


DMT is not a push-button-choose-your-own-experience kind of thing.....REALLY!!!

Not only do you not get to physically control anything, it is also going to be a unique & random experience pretty much every time you do it.
That is one the many, oh so wonderful things about DMT!!
It's not just the same old boring & predictable drug-type effect every time! Instead, it is a whole new world, new beings, new dimensions & a relatively new experience almost every single time.

Of course that also means it's not exactly the kind of thing everyone out there can truly deal with productively, or even enjoy.
You seriously have to surrender 100%!!! And just observe!

What are you guys doing, man? Look, I cleaned the hotel room up, I brought you to a nice place, what the fuck are you doing? I don't want this.
Well ^there's your problem^ in screaming loud print!!!

DMT is not your girl friend, or a hot-date you take to "a nice place" to get what you want from her.:?: :!: :?:
Why are you trying to get "them" to accommodate you?
How about preparing yourself, for yourself....rather than setting up a nice room for something that is not even a part of this physical world!!!

The whole DMT expereince is all happening within your mind....whether or not these beings that we experience are real or not....they are only perceptible to you!! They are not physically in the room with you.
Ever watch someone else while they are in the DMT-trance? They basically look like they are sleeping, with the occasional smile, or other facial contortions.
But the room does not start spinning away & changing shape & dimensions to the other sober people in the room, only to the person who just inhaled some DMT.

Hope that helps a bit,
WS

I think he got that when he went back in after a little adjustment

I realised my FOCUS was internal, and upon realising this, the roof of the vault opened like a star, and I had a glimpse of an infinite, shared space beyond.

BTW, NO....a fire alarm will not go off because of DMT VAPOR!!! They detect SMOKE.
Maybe if you blow a giant cloud straight into the thing.
Although, if you are vaporizing it correctly (not burning it, thus producing smoke) & holding it in your lungs long enough, only a tiny wisp of vapor is usually exhaled anyway....or nothing at all.
Vapor deposits & stays in your lungs....being tiny droplets of a liquid & all.
(Much more efficient than smoke, which for the most part, is pretty much just tiny particles of ash.)

He was smoking Changa.
 
88 said:
That's their job. It's what they do. They are the ones you see on the way out. They've generally appeared as insects to me. But their job is to put you back together the way you're meant to be. They fix you. They are the ones who give you 'the gift'. It feels like a gift because they're fixing shit, putting your mind back together.

i've written about this many times... always fun and heartening to read when someone else experiences the same thing as you... ;)

L&G!!
 
Took a very large does of Ayahuasca Android Changa mix, smoked in a nice glass bong. I took the first hit, nice and long and slow. Started transporting. The next hit was smoking me. They were sooooo eager to get me in. They were smoking it, saying hit that thing! And boom, fuck, we're in.

Joker was there, oozing in and out of the multidimensional jimjam, and there were lots of little 'uns too, whizzing and fizzing all over the inside of me. They were loving it, just playing with me-ness, and having a fizzingly fantastic time with it. My mind was like their favourite playground in the whole world, and they were laughing their arses off, bending and flipping my psyche around. They found it all absolutely side-splittingly funny – happy sad? Here there? Now then? Fucking hilarious. We were all just having an absolute riot, and any coherent sense of self was completely, deliciously obliterated. Wonderful.

Usually, when I have to leave the main stage (I always, always am squeezed to the right, for some reason) it is the beginning of the reentry phase. I leave the digital, hot-coloured multidimensional jimjam, and am pushed through a series of glass-like tunnels, which are vine-y and insect-y.

But today, this wasn't the end of the trip. It was the beginning.

I found myself in a very, very dark place. All dark blue, black and purple, but also dark in the sense of evil, hurt, and terror. But I wasn't scared – it wasn't my fear. It was someone else's.

The next thing I'm starting to become aware of myself as a person again. But I'm not me. I'm someone else entirely. I'm inside someone else's body and mind. I have their memories. I hear their voice speaking. Their thoughts are in my head – or I'm in their head. Its a very, very strange feeling. I can see things through their eyes, but it's like looking through thick, scratched, angled glass. I see a small black boy with a torn shirt on a dirt track, kneeling down looking at something.

I am vaguely aware that this is not the place my mind usually comes back to, but it's all a bit fuzzy.

Then I'm pushed through the glass tunnels again, and I'm someone else again. A Welsh person this time. I think a woman, who's thinking about 'uncle Barry'. Again, I'm hearing her thoughts, and this person is in conversation with someone else while I'm inside her mind. There's a real dark fairground feel to this person. She's angry and deeply insecure. Again, there is a boy in her thoughts, maybe her son, and he is in pain, or is sick or is being hurt – I don't know which.

Neither of these people are people I know, or have any idea about. Their consciousness is very foreign. The way the thoughts are structured is very different to my own. The things they think about are really not something that would otherwise be lurking around my own mind for any reason.

Then I start back through the tunnels, and I'm 'me' again. It's time for the little guys to get to work on me, to fix me up. And I meet an old man, we're in the Amazon, and he's a South American Indian. We're not talking, but he's watching over me, watching out for me.
 
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