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Phaedris

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I just tried DMT for the first time. I've read about it quite a bit and spent the last couple of months assembling materials and performing extractions. I finally got a sizable quantity of crystals after my third extraction attempt.

The DMT experience is very important to me. It's a part of my spiritual practice. I wanted to do it right. I even bought a glass vapor genie on the recommendation of others here (thanks, by the way) before I tried it for the first time.

My first hit was a throwaway because of the newness of the equipment. The second hit was IT.

I'm a little disappointed in myself, because my reaction was one of fear. I thought I knew what to expect but this was so fucking intense. I'm preaching to the choir here, I know.

Castenada wrote, “A man goes to knowledge as he goes to war, wide-awake, with fear, with respect, and with absolute assurance. Going to knowledge or going to war in any other manner is a mistake, and whoever makes it will live to regret his steps.”

Courage is not the absence of fear, but the ability to act in spite of it. After I've processed this I will definitely try it again. It's just so weird to be in another universe within a matter of seconds.

This may sound a little off the wall, but I'd like to talk to someone who has experience with DMT. I know from 12 step recovery how powerful one-on-one communication can be so if you'd like to chat for a couple of minutes send me a PM. I'd really appreciate it.

peace
Phaedris
 
ha I know the feeling!

The first time I really took a breakthrough dose it completely took me off guard..even though that was what I was shooring for..and it's still like that at high doses for the most part..the way it happens is so quick and it feels almost so frighteningly natural that every time I find myself wondering how the hell a bunch of mg of some molecule can do THAT..!

I think the fact that it does feel very natural and clear is what makes it seem so damn real to me..half the time at a full dose I am already there before the mental shift hits...so I have a few seconds to take it all in and sort of wonder..well, what just happened?

Oh, and welcome to the nexus!
 
Even after so many times, fear is a common emotion to feel before entering the highly advanced technological capabilities.
This fear is also completely diminished when you simply let go, have faith and be strong. Have confidence in your position.
You will be tested again and again. This is how to grow more rapidly.
 
I think that sometimes a bit of apprehension before taking a large dose of DMT is quite a sane thing to experience! Fear is normal before launching..just dont let it take you over..work with it..

I dont get these feelings anymore with DMT on anything less than a breakthrough/ego dissolving dose though..
 
I like to remember the quote by Terence McKenna where he is encouraging sceptics of psychedelics to give DMT a try. He states at one point "It only takes 15 minutes, so you can't argue that you don't have time. And as far as danger, we haven't lost anyone yet!" However, it is still a somewhat frightening experience for me after several tries. It just happens so fast that you don't really have time to adjust. And if you get scared and keep your eyes open (as I did on my first try), the visual input is so intense its almost painful (like looking at the sun or something).

elphologist
 
I'm a little disappointed in myself, because my reaction was one of fear.
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Don't be disappointed. You've undergone a journey most people can't comprehend or deal with themselves. Most people will never have any idea of the worlds possibilities. They rely on the media to define culture and never seek challenges to better themselves. You've taken the time to learn the techniques, you've inhaled DMT and saw the other side. Instead, feel proud that you had the guts to do it at all. Don't be so quick to dismiss this, taking DMT is no small achievement; it can be a life changing event.

DMT forces you into another world in only seconds. Any friends nearby no longer exist, your body no longer exists. Colours, 4d objects, alient entities are in the same room as you. If this doesn't scare you, then I don't know what will.

You'll get used to it.
 
jacetea said:
Don't be disappointed. You've undergone a journey most people can't comprehend or deal with themselves. Most people will never have any idea of the worlds possibilities. They rely on the media to define culture and never seek challenges to better themselves. You've taken the time to learn the techniques, you've inhaled DMT and saw the other side. Instead, feel proud that you had the guts to do it at all. Don't be so quick to dismiss this, taking DMT is no small achievement; it can be a life changing event.

DMT forces you into another world in only seconds. Any friends nearby no longer exist, your body no longer exists. Colours, 4d objects, alient entities are in the same room as you. If this doesn't scare you, then I don't know what will.

You'll get used to it.
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Well said, jacetea.
 
Hello Phaedris,

Fear is my ally & enemy and the drama is ongoing. Less than a week ago I had a panic attack in the breakthrough (a first for me) and part of it was due to the sheer intensity and beauty - I coudln't take it and I wasn't (ego) dead so I understood I couldn't take it.

Fear is contributing to my growth and exploration. The benefits have FAR outweighed the detriments over the past few months of my explorations thus I keep coming back to the spice. And it does not disappoint me.

Please do not be hard on yourself. Fear is not necessarily an indication of weakness or cowardice or spiritual inadequacy or whatever. It is an indicator that you are human with developed frontal lobes and an increasing understanding of the sheer power of the spice. Smart. It is our responses that determine these factors, I believe. The frontal lobes CAN overcome the reptile brain each and every time, but I find that it is not always easy.

Peace & Love,
Pandora
 
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