First attempt at Breakthrough (4ACO; Caapi)

[faoble]

4ACO 35mg
Caapi extract should be ~50g

This shit hit me like a train. Not like the 20mg ACO. I don't recall much of what happened. Many pulses throughout my whole body, vision effects all over, sweating etc. I lay in bed for hours. This lasted way too long 6+hr, eventually I took xanax. I was not really immobile though and there were no outright hallucinations, but many closed eye effects. Also if I stare as something it starts to move or morf.

0 regrets. I suspect a very partial result.

 

[FranLover]

Yeah, that should hit like a train I saw a beautiful intergalactic mime woman playing hide and seek on 3g shrooms, Lemon balm, Caapi, and Aniracetam, and I call that "a psilohuasca breakthrough" as its more than just a visual, its an immersion and contact with a kind entity. It isn't easy to get there, a lot of variables involved, but apparentley its possible. For the comedown I drank lemon balm and smoked a cannabis joint. I slept like a baby.

Are you gonna try psilohuasca again faoble?

 

[faoble]

So you guys... do I up the dose or go for Meo?

Mushrooms don't work on me, or at least they work in a very subtle way. When I was on a high dose of the mushrooms the only thing that happened, is that I felt almost nothing, I went outside to some place, then this guy come up to me and says I look so angry even though I don't feel it at all. People did stare much more and react in a strange way but no one could tell I was on anything.

4ACO is totally different.

 

[dragonrider]

You could up the dose some more. It is realy weird that mushrooms don't work for you, but acetylated psilocin does. Have you tried different strains or types of shrooms? Mushrooms are a natural product and can therefore be inconsistent in strength.

6 hours is not uncommon though, with higher doses. Especially when taken with harmala's. High doses of shrooms can last up to 8 hours.

 

[faoble]

I only know one site the will ship mushrooms and all they have are truffles. Are the different truffles not the same stuff?

Are the mushrooms not the same as higher dose truffles?

Edit: do people even achieve a breakthrough on a single dose the first time? I am very new to all of this. Maybe you need a certain number of lower doses before? or try a certain number of times?

 

[dragonrider]

I only know one site the will ship mushrooms and all they have are truffles. Are the different truffles not the same stuff?

Are the mushrooms not the same as higher dose truffles?

Edit: do people even achieve a breakthrough on a single dose the first time? I am very new to all of this. Maybe you need a certain number of lower doses before? or try a certain number of times?

There are many different kinds of truffles. They vary in potency. Mexicana is usually the weakest. Then there are tampanensis and atlantis. They are, i would say, medium strength most of the time. And the strongest is pajateros. But there are different strains of these as well, and growing conditions also matter a lot.

Strong truffles these days, are every bit as potent as shrooms. If you are new to them, i would just work my way up and see how you respond, but if you already have some 4-AcO-DMT lying around, i would do some further experiments with that substance first. It should have roughly the same effects.

Breakthrough experiences are usually not achieved on doses of 20 mg. If you want to have something that compares to a DMT breakthrough, you talk about about two to three times that, or maybe even more. But even when you do not break through completely, the mushroom experience is awesome, and i would not go for those very high doses immediately.

Mushrooms are pretty safe to play around with, but they definately require respect. Even without making you break through, they can shake your world.

 

[faoble]

After I did this, a lot of stuff changed for me the following days. I feel like I did a major level up.

But really I am not looking forward to do this again, this was not really fun or easy. Maybe because of the anxiety during the last ~2hr or so. On the lower doses I was doing stuff and having fun not lying in bed sweating, being confused as fuck etc.

Should I get back to 20mg and raise it slowly? or...?

 

[Sabnock1990]

Try out 3 to 4.5 grams of Lemon Balm tea with the Psilohuasca, it really comes in handy for the anxiety and helping to have a more relaxed experience. My last experience with Psilohuasca i had Lemon Balm included and it was full of clarity, far from confusing. Or maybe can try lowering the Caapi dosage a little, perhaps. But if you wanna keep the Caapi dosage the same, maybe try backing the 4-ACO dosage down to 20 to 25mgs, see if that's more to your liking.