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Rising Star
**WARNING: This post contains a long trip report with a lot of information that may seem extraneous and irrelevant. Feel free to skip to the questions at the end of the post.
So last friday I decided to have my first go at salvia. It probably all started the day before that when I tried datura leave tea again using two large leaves. I was so sure that I would feel some affects, but once again I was snubbed. Then when I got home from school the next day (so friday), seeing as how I had nothing important to do, I made my third failed attempt with nutmeg essential oil. I mixed about 22.5 mL of the oil with some yogurt and ate it after chewing six datura seeds. This may sound like a very large dose but it turns out that I bought a dud. This was apparent with my first try with 3 mL but I didn't want to waste the nutmeg oil and being the hopeful person that I am, I had to finish it off.
Frustrated with all my failures (and by failures I mean "newly gained experience") I wanted to succeed in feeling affects from something. Being that the only other plant that I had in my possession that was [clears his throat] a sure thing was salvia, I knew what I had to do. I called my friend to inquire whether he would be my sitter and offered to reciprocate if it were his wish. You gotta stay safe and responsible
. And then it was on.
The method I used was to use my handmade pipe which has proved to be of sufficient quality in previous tests then:
1) Fill the bowl with half a gram of plain salvia leaves
2) Hold a standard lighter to the bowl
3) Inhale while keeping the flame on the herbs
4) Continue inhaling until smoke fully inflated my lungs
5) Hold the smoke for 20-30 seconds
6) Repeat steps 2-5 two or three more times until all the leaves are reduced to ash
My aim was to ingest all the leaves in around three minutes. This seemed easy enough as I had proved that I could do it with catnip in previous trials.
So I began the procedure. I got the first lung full in with no problem and held the smoke with no effect. Immediately I started the second toke. By this point I was not expecting to feel anything and started to think that this would end as just another futile attempt. Then it began.
It was the most intense sensation I had ever experienced. I started seeing in tunnel vision. My field of view was a narrow circle framed by my friend at one side. Everything outside this circle was distorted and seemed as though it was being pulled into the circle like the circle had some sort of massive gravitational pull. This pull was not just affecting the objects though. I felt as though I was being pulled into the whole as well. "Welcome to the Machine" by Pink Floyd was playing in the background and the pull surged with the music waxing and waning in intensity. I could feel the surges run through my body and this made my body feel as though I was laughing intensely. I mean really intensely. This was an intensity of laughing that I have never felt in all my life. Yet I wasn't laughing. The whole time I was concentrating furiously. Trying not to fall into the whole, trying not to laugh, trying to continue to smoke.
Once in this state, it became very hard to hold the smoke in my lungs and I would cough out whole lung fulls with a wrath that left my lungs aching. I noticed that I was salivating extensively and with one cough I released a stream of spit that traveled a straight line for abut two meters before it hit anything. I remember thinking that this what a cobra must feel like just with out the whole black hole thing going on but I'm not a cobra so how do I know.
Anyway, this was about as far as I got. The whole time I felt like there was some other reality behind me and if I fell into the hole I could get there but it didn't happen. I guess I couldn't ingest the rest of the dose fast enough to beat the rate at which my body was metabolizing the salvinorin or maybe I was fighting it too much. Soon the peak was done and I was left in an interesting state where I could not easily articulate any of my thoughts and the music definitely felt more interesting. Generally, I just felt like I was off my baseline.
Once I had regained my composure, I couldn't help but to feel happier than usual. Sure I was a bit disappointed that I didn't break through, but this was surely not a failure and on a first try none the less. I had heard of some people using salvia to treat depression before but I hadn't known what to think of this claim until now. Now, I would say that this treatment might actually work seeing as how almost two days later I still feel that my mood has been lifted.
I knew that I had to try again, so about an hour later I loaded the bowl of my pipe again. Everything was just about the same except that once I reached the laughing state I concentrated hard enough to hold in a third lung full of smoke. I also tried to succumb to pull that I was experiencing but that only led to me hitting my head on the wall behind me.
Once all the herb was burnt, I directed my friend to quickly fill the bowl with the remaining half gram of slavia. Even in this state I had retained enough of my faculties to try and test whether I had just underdosed in the previous trial. This did nothing more than to extend the peak in length and did not affect the intensity of it.
When I finished the second bowl, I proceeded to hold my pipe with the stem running up the length of my forearm (the stem of my pipe is about a foot long). Upon doing this I felt as though the pipe had melded with my body and that it continued to bend around me, hugging the contour of my back, and then running on to my other forearm. This made me feel rigid and I began to twist my spine which affirmed and accentuated the sensation. I noticed that I was twisting to the music and quite involuntarily. I know I was listening to Dark Side of the Moon, but I can't recall what track was playing. When I put the pipe down, I began to sway widely from one side to the other, once again it was involuntary and once again it was in unison with the music.
After that nothing special, or should I rephrase that, nothing unexpected happened. With this trial I answered some of my earlier questions. I didn't breakthrough because I couldn't smoke fast enough and not because I just didn't smoke enough or because I was fighting it. I also couldn't breakthrough by just succumbing to pulling sensation.
About a half an hour later, it was my friend's turn. He followed the same procedure as I did and everything seemed very similar between our experiences. The only difference was that once my friend reached the “laughing stage” he actually began to laugh uncontrollably which made me laugh and that just didn't help anyone because that made him laugh even more.
Once my friend left I made one more attempt with the salvia and this led to just about the same set of affects. This time the difference was that I noticed more static in my visual field and this static began to congeal as if something were trying to materialize. But alas nothing materialized and I decided to call a quits. I went to bed easily that night and woke up feeling quite refreshed.
_Questions______________________________________________________________________
This experience has left me with a few more questions. For instance, what do other people usually experience. I have read many trip reports and read what many people claim the affects to be, but I don't ever remember reading that salvia could elicit intense laughter.
I was also wondering about reverse tolerance. I have read that many people will have no affects what so ever the first few times and then the effects will build up. I know that I definitely felt some effects but I know that I didn't break through. Should I expect to feel more effects as I progress or will I have to change other things to increase the effects? I ask this question because most people who claim to have experienced reverse tolerance either began with using extracts and proceeded to need less and less extract to achieve breakthrough effects or they started out with leaves and didn't feel any affects at first. Neither of these describe me or my friend which I find peculiar.
I was thinking that soon I might try to extract a dose worth and condense it enough so as to be able to take the whole dose in no more than two lung-fulls. For some reason this feels like cheating to me but if it is the only way then so be it. What might be a good amount of solvent to use? I plan on either using rubbing alcohol or acetone as the solvent.
Also, does anyone know of any potentiators for salvia? Maybe datura seeds or something like that.
So last friday I decided to have my first go at salvia. It probably all started the day before that when I tried datura leave tea again using two large leaves. I was so sure that I would feel some affects, but once again I was snubbed. Then when I got home from school the next day (so friday), seeing as how I had nothing important to do, I made my third failed attempt with nutmeg essential oil. I mixed about 22.5 mL of the oil with some yogurt and ate it after chewing six datura seeds. This may sound like a very large dose but it turns out that I bought a dud. This was apparent with my first try with 3 mL but I didn't want to waste the nutmeg oil and being the hopeful person that I am, I had to finish it off.
Frustrated with all my failures (and by failures I mean "newly gained experience") I wanted to succeed in feeling affects from something. Being that the only other plant that I had in my possession that was [clears his throat] a sure thing was salvia, I knew what I had to do. I called my friend to inquire whether he would be my sitter and offered to reciprocate if it were his wish. You gotta stay safe and responsible
. And then it was on.The method I used was to use my handmade pipe which has proved to be of sufficient quality in previous tests then:
1) Fill the bowl with half a gram of plain salvia leaves
2) Hold a standard lighter to the bowl
3) Inhale while keeping the flame on the herbs
4) Continue inhaling until smoke fully inflated my lungs
5) Hold the smoke for 20-30 seconds
6) Repeat steps 2-5 two or three more times until all the leaves are reduced to ash
My aim was to ingest all the leaves in around three minutes. This seemed easy enough as I had proved that I could do it with catnip in previous trials.
So I began the procedure. I got the first lung full in with no problem and held the smoke with no effect. Immediately I started the second toke. By this point I was not expecting to feel anything and started to think that this would end as just another futile attempt. Then it began.
It was the most intense sensation I had ever experienced. I started seeing in tunnel vision. My field of view was a narrow circle framed by my friend at one side. Everything outside this circle was distorted and seemed as though it was being pulled into the circle like the circle had some sort of massive gravitational pull. This pull was not just affecting the objects though. I felt as though I was being pulled into the whole as well. "Welcome to the Machine" by Pink Floyd was playing in the background and the pull surged with the music waxing and waning in intensity. I could feel the surges run through my body and this made my body feel as though I was laughing intensely. I mean really intensely. This was an intensity of laughing that I have never felt in all my life. Yet I wasn't laughing. The whole time I was concentrating furiously. Trying not to fall into the whole, trying not to laugh, trying to continue to smoke.
Once in this state, it became very hard to hold the smoke in my lungs and I would cough out whole lung fulls with a wrath that left my lungs aching. I noticed that I was salivating extensively and with one cough I released a stream of spit that traveled a straight line for abut two meters before it hit anything. I remember thinking that this what a cobra must feel like just with out the whole black hole thing going on but I'm not a cobra so how do I know.
Anyway, this was about as far as I got. The whole time I felt like there was some other reality behind me and if I fell into the hole I could get there but it didn't happen. I guess I couldn't ingest the rest of the dose fast enough to beat the rate at which my body was metabolizing the salvinorin or maybe I was fighting it too much. Soon the peak was done and I was left in an interesting state where I could not easily articulate any of my thoughts and the music definitely felt more interesting. Generally, I just felt like I was off my baseline.
Once I had regained my composure, I couldn't help but to feel happier than usual. Sure I was a bit disappointed that I didn't break through, but this was surely not a failure and on a first try none the less. I had heard of some people using salvia to treat depression before but I hadn't known what to think of this claim until now. Now, I would say that this treatment might actually work seeing as how almost two days later I still feel that my mood has been lifted.
I knew that I had to try again, so about an hour later I loaded the bowl of my pipe again. Everything was just about the same except that once I reached the laughing state I concentrated hard enough to hold in a third lung full of smoke. I also tried to succumb to pull that I was experiencing but that only led to me hitting my head on the wall behind me.
Once all the herb was burnt, I directed my friend to quickly fill the bowl with the remaining half gram of slavia. Even in this state I had retained enough of my faculties to try and test whether I had just underdosed in the previous trial. This did nothing more than to extend the peak in length and did not affect the intensity of it.
When I finished the second bowl, I proceeded to hold my pipe with the stem running up the length of my forearm (the stem of my pipe is about a foot long). Upon doing this I felt as though the pipe had melded with my body and that it continued to bend around me, hugging the contour of my back, and then running on to my other forearm. This made me feel rigid and I began to twist my spine which affirmed and accentuated the sensation. I noticed that I was twisting to the music and quite involuntarily. I know I was listening to Dark Side of the Moon, but I can't recall what track was playing. When I put the pipe down, I began to sway widely from one side to the other, once again it was involuntary and once again it was in unison with the music.
After that nothing special, or should I rephrase that, nothing unexpected happened. With this trial I answered some of my earlier questions. I didn't breakthrough because I couldn't smoke fast enough and not because I just didn't smoke enough or because I was fighting it. I also couldn't breakthrough by just succumbing to pulling sensation.
About a half an hour later, it was my friend's turn. He followed the same procedure as I did and everything seemed very similar between our experiences. The only difference was that once my friend reached the “laughing stage” he actually began to laugh uncontrollably which made me laugh and that just didn't help anyone because that made him laugh even more.
Once my friend left I made one more attempt with the salvia and this led to just about the same set of affects. This time the difference was that I noticed more static in my visual field and this static began to congeal as if something were trying to materialize. But alas nothing materialized and I decided to call a quits. I went to bed easily that night and woke up feeling quite refreshed.
_Questions______________________________________________________________________
This experience has left me with a few more questions. For instance, what do other people usually experience. I have read many trip reports and read what many people claim the affects to be, but I don't ever remember reading that salvia could elicit intense laughter.
I was also wondering about reverse tolerance. I have read that many people will have no affects what so ever the first few times and then the effects will build up. I know that I definitely felt some effects but I know that I didn't break through. Should I expect to feel more effects as I progress or will I have to change other things to increase the effects? I ask this question because most people who claim to have experienced reverse tolerance either began with using extracts and proceeded to need less and less extract to achieve breakthrough effects or they started out with leaves and didn't feel any affects at first. Neither of these describe me or my friend which I find peculiar.
I was thinking that soon I might try to extract a dose worth and condense it enough so as to be able to take the whole dose in no more than two lung-fulls. For some reason this feels like cheating to me but if it is the only way then so be it. What might be a good amount of solvent to use? I plan on either using rubbing alcohol or acetone as the solvent.
Also, does anyone know of any potentiators for salvia? Maybe datura seeds or something like that.
