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thepureskunk

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This was my 4th time and unlike the previous 3 i really loaded up the bowl of my bong :lol: The previous 3 trips consisted mainly of fantastic geometric patterns and shapes and then a swift comedown.

This time with my resolve set i took as many hits as possible...i was tripping hard when the last hit went down. Well i didn't actually feel it go down! The geometric patterns were so sharp, so real and then the ringing in my head started and a whole new space opened up.. Huge spirals of colour tower before me, i feel myself being guided and the feeling of not being alone..i forgot who i was, annd just flew around space...wow

I have had previous experience with ketamine and that can take you pretty far...but i struggle to remember it and the finer details. I will never forget the space i was just in, such an amazing journey.

Its only been an hour since so sorry if a bit of a ramble. Just really proud of myself for taking the plunge and coming through unscathed...amazing

wow
 
SWIM finds it great with acid or shrooms..also LSA or LSH(lsa plus pepperming...not sure if its really LSH but it IS different than LSA)

LSA plus peppermint was the easiest...beautiful breakthrough...
 
I've got some mushrooms so may well make a brew and give the combo a go tonight! :shock:

Had some awesome dreams last night and feel more content than usual today.

I was looking for a pic that may describe better what i saw and the pic posted is really quite close, except there were huge towers of colour that were spinning...words just cant describe..
 

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Nice! SWIM was like that too. His first 3 trips, he either barely got anything at all or a few patterns. His breakthrough was very similar to what swiy describes.....and in the overwhelming euphoria of the comedown, all swim could say (about 40 times haha)....was "wow."

E.C.
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again here.

Most people's first words upon coming down from their first full Spice experience is "wow". I have heard this phase repeated over and over again by many people.

Spice is an amazing experience by itself, and is equally amazing in combination with other tryptamines. I personally have not had much luck mixing phens (2c's + mescaline in particular) with spice though. I don't think the elves like phens.
 
acolon..SWIM has mixed 2ce with spice a few times..and he has mixed mescaline(achuma) once...

2ce with DMT has been a VERY interesting experience..only once has he done a breakthrough while on 2ce...any other time..its been extremely pleasurable..

on the breakthrough..it was neither..very intense..he went to an interesting place..in much need of exploration by other travelers...

perhaps its just SWIM but PEA's have always been wonderful when mixed with spice
 
thepureskunk said:
I've got some mushrooms so may well make a brew and give the combo a go tonight! :shock:

Had some awesome dreams last night and feel more content than usual today.

I was looking for a pic that may describe better what i saw and the pic posted is really quite close, except there were huge towers of colour that were spinning...words just cant describe..

Nice can't wait to hear about it! Yea that pic you posted is legit, its all fractals sometimes..

I might be taking some mushrooms again this weekend or maybe some acid, might give it a go!
 
That's definately my new desktop image. Havn't smoked in awhile, definately want to "go for it" next time, don't know when it'll be.
 

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Jorkest- Just look at your post and you will see an 'attach' icon in the top right corner. Click it, then you just browse your PC and upload the pic.

Spock's Brain (great name)-I have that pic at a higher res on my computer and its also my new desktop pic.. The pic i had before was the Mad Hatter LSD blotter art from erowid...very cool pic! I just typed DMT Art to find that pic through Google, but if you cant get it then PM me and i will send it to you.

modsquad09- Thanks for the kind words. I did end up doing mushrooms, but never took the DMT although half way through my trip i could smell the stuff even tho it was nowhere near...but i thought my brain can only handle so much in one week!!

Would you guys recommend a full break through dose on mushrooms or maybe go with a little less?

acolon_5- wow just seems to sum up the effect perfectly...i was just so stunned and in awe of the power...now gonna extract the rest of my MHRB :d
 
There are many things i heard people talk about that i never had or seen; i have never seen 'the machine'. I have sometimes felt that reality became like a machine or that i felt machine-like myself, but no big machine thing. And Elves i have experienced on other substances as well and i wouldn't call them elves myself. To me they're more 'living, visible music' or 'living energy, curled up in space'. Although i think we all experience more or less the same thing when we're on spice, it seems as if we all take different parts of these experiences with us. I think we all enter the same hyperspace from a different angle, with a different perspective.
 
thats interesting that you brought up 'the machine' SWIM has been to a machine world..everything was made up of these little sentient machines that fit together and swam around creating this space...they told SWIM that this place was made as a sort of Arc for our planet..just in case the world became totally fucked...but it was really just one huge super complex machine...made of little parts...that had their own consciousness...this was one of the more intense experiences..

thinking back he says that it was over 100mg..probabaly like 120+..he got most of it by the third hit..but by that point...everything had gone black except for the bowl and his hands..this was as he took the third hit...and after he got the rest..he handed the bowl off..and fell back into the floor...

he said 30 seconds in "we need to hide this" and of course he was speaking of dmt...he was in this temple place..there was no freespace..he just kinda fit in with it..and when he said we need to hide this..he saw "himself" burying it under this temple...then he came into this space where everyone that he knew was in...they were all smiling really big and waving..everybody had another arm wrapped comfortably around another person...SWIM can only really remember seeing his brother there..happier than hell..but he knew the rest of the people..he just didnt have time to remember who they were..

so after that part..is when he got sucked down into the machine..where they told him the message of world collapse..but that there was a space waiting for us all..


now as you can imagine..SWIM was quite shocked about this..and decided he didnt need to smoke any more that night...so he just thought about it and what it could mean..

its strange getting messages like that and seeing what he saw..and thinking what he thought..and still having to be slightly skeptical about the content...it was such a powerful experience...and to SWIM experience shows you a certain truth about things..but that doesnt mean that its completely how it is..so

higher doses definitely get you to places that are just not accessible from lower doses..but they are also a little more frightening..and the information that gets shoved into your head is sort of like...when you are watching a nasty scene in a movie and you shield your eyes from it..except its way more profound..and there is no way to shield yourself from it..

kinda like..."geez..i kinda wish i didnt see that"

but you have to take it all in stride..and learn to ground yourself...connect yourself to your physical body again..and let that excess energy leech back into the earth...otherwise you get the wicked dmt shakes..which arent really that bad..but it does feel pretty weird
 
Those shakes i'm familiar with. And i also have been transported to other worlds. But to me it more seems as if at a certain moment things look and feel machine-like, more because technology is the only thing we know of that would fit this bizarre world and state of mind. But especially when i started to feel like a machine myself, i always knew that i wasn't a machine. There is something about being in that state of mind; the force of the vibrations you feel and their rythmic patterns that seems so artificial or un-organic. But to me it is so unwordly that we look for un-human concepts to describe it with, rather then that it realy IS a machine world.
 
Thanks for all the interesting thoughts.

I did get those shivers after coming down off the breakthrough hit. If i remember correct it happened 3 times and didn't feel bad, just weird.

Also do others smell the spice when its not even around? Its gotta have happened 5 or 6 times since the first time i smelled it.. its quite bizzare!

I still have one good dose left which will be done this week sometime. Will get extracting the last of my MHRB...
 
thepureskunk said:
Also do others smell the spice when its not even around? Its gotta have happened 5 or 6 times since the first time i smelled it.. its quite bizzare!

Yeah me too. And another friend of mine who i introduced the spice to, asked me the same thing.
I smell it and taste it. Its strange innit. Its like its calling you haha
 
soulman said:
thepureskunk said:
Also do others smell the spice when its not even around? Its gotta have happened 5 or 6 times since the first time i smelled it.. its quite bizzare!

Yeah me too. And another friend of mine who i introduced the spice to, asked me the same thing.
I smell it and taste it. Its strange innit. Its like its calling you haha


Got another one here. I think it could be all the indole compounds in many flowering plants that create DMT-like odors.

I love it :d
 
I've never liked the smell of DMT. It smells so artificial. I wish it smelt something like good weed. Ohh how I love the smell of good weed :)
 
Jorkest said:
acolon..SWIM has mixed 2ce with spice a few times..and he has mixed mescaline(achuma) once...

2ce with DMT has been a VERY interesting experience..only once has he done a breakthrough while on 2ce...any other time..its been extremely pleasurable..

on the breakthrough..it was neither..very intense..he went to an interesting place..in much need of exploration by other travelers...

perhaps its just SWIM but PEA's have always been wonderful when mixed with spice

I don't disagree that the experience was pleasurable. I'm really into entity contact, and that particular aspect has seemed to be missing from the PEA+DMT combination. I am not in any way against mixing PEA's and Tryptamines. Some of my most wonderful experiences were on this combination...it's just that entity contact thing I was referring to when I said the "elves don't like phens".
 
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