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Shrabbit420 said:Birds that make the same poison(s) as 'poison dart frogs', that is awesome. And gives me another reason to dislike birds. It looks like a demonic crow with red eyes and feathers.
azrael said:Exactly the same poison as the frogs? Birds and frogs are fairly distant creatures to have such a similar set of toxins. I can see how the steroidal ring base is common in animals, but it's cool that they share something so specific. Obviously not impossible, just unlikely and makes my inner nerd go fuzzy.
C'mon biochemists, shatter my moment of bliss with your hammer of science!
DeMenTed said:I'm pretty sure that the frogs obtain their toxins by what they eat. I think they eat some bug that's poisonous so maybe this bird does the same? anyone know?
Poisonous Birds said:It turns out that pitohuis, ifritas, and even poisonous frogs, don’t make the BTX themselves, but get it from beetles that they ingest. Chorisine beetles, tiny plant eaters, are thought to be the birds’ source of the toxin, but even the beetles probably just carry BTX, likely acquiring it from a plant that they eat. For all these species, having the toxin confers an advantage, making them unpalatable for predators and parasites alike
azrael said:Exactly the same poison as the frogs? Birds and frogs are fairly distant creatures to have such a similar set of toxins. I can see how the steroidal ring base is common in animals, but it's cool that they share something so specific. Obviously not impossible, just unlikely and makes my inner nerd go fuzzy.
C'mon biochemists, shatter my moment of bliss with your hammer of science!
Cheeto said:i do believe both frogs and birds are reptiles, in that sence its not so shocking to me.
azrael said:C'mon biochemists, shatter my moment of bliss with your hammer of science!
ms_manic_minxx said:Well, the answer seems pretty simple to me...
Don't try to eat/smoke/snuff/otherwise ingest or get high on poisonous birds.