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First (Successful) Extraction - Large Crystals

algidity

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I was quite happy with these, and wanted to share!


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When I scraped them, though, I inevitably got a layer of yellow film at the bottom with them which made their final appearance a bit tinged.


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My hope is to learn if this is an issue, and if so how I might correct it in the future!


Additionally, my yield was quite bad. 100g of MHRB left me with 363mg of DMT. I have retained all reagents used in this extraction, so I'm hoping I can run all those through processing steps and recover some missing DMT.


Love. <3


~M
 
algidity,

Wow those are beautiful crystals.

Your yield is probably low because your DMT is so pure in those crystals. Did you you use heptane as your solvent?

And yeah, I wouldn't throw the MHRB soup out yet. There is probably additional DMT in there. You just may have to pull it with something that will not yield such beautiful, clear shards of crystal.

Looks great though. Have you smoalked it yet?
 
Beautiful crystals. They look pretty clean, the yellowy film at the bottom is probably still DMT, but it didn't crystallize probably.

If this was only one solvent pull, you'll still have a lot more to take out of the soup. Keep pulling and recycle the naphtha for your next pulls. Do at least 3 or 4, with minimal solvent (50-100ml is enough).

I saw your previous attempt, and I believe you didn't filter the mimosa plant material properly, that's why your separating funnel clogged. Mimosa powder is tricky to filter, my method goes something like this:
1.- Decant overnight to settle at the bottom
2.- Filter, coarse (cheese cloth)
3.- Decant again
4.- Filter, finer mesh (coffee filter?)
5.- Decant again
5.- Filter again, finer mesh (lab filter paper)
After two or three decant/filtering stages, your acid soup will be super clear and won't clog the funnel.

Either way, you seem to be doing fine, you got a beautiful extract there. Next time will be easier.
 
Looks beautiful! Congratulations!
Thank you!!
algidity,

Wow those are beautiful crystals.

Your yield is probably low because your DMT is so pure in those crystals. Did you you use heptane as your solvent?

And yeah, I wouldn't throw the MHRB soup out yet. There is probably additional DMT in there. You just may have to pull it with something that will not yield such beautiful, clear shards of crystal.

Looks great though. Have you smoalked it yet?
I was wondering - I wish I had a more formal way to validate. I'm not sure what to look for in terms of quality (or if crystalline properties are indicative of much outside evap method). I did think it was quite interesting they were large and translucent, some almost transparent. This has inspired me to attempt to produce nicer crystals if possible - it just seems like a fun challenge if nothing else! One of my siblings is a chemical engineer and advised me through some parts of the process, maybe I'll consult them about how to optimize crystal growth.

My solvent was naptha actually!

Oh I did toss the MHRB soup since I was worried it'd possibly spoil and kept all the solvent and lye solution I used throughout the process. I now feel kind of silly, it would've made a lot more sense to just have frozen it. What would you suggest for pulling something like that in the future?

I have not smoalkededed yet! I am excited to but during my last visit to hyperspace I was told by the entity I visited my next priority was to get my life in order and that I was welcome back only after doing that. I've made a lot of progress toward that and am maybe 70-80% done with things on my "get your crap together" list, but I still have to finish a few things before I go back. :)
Beautiful crystals. They look pretty clean, the yellowy film at the bottom is probably still DMT, but it didn't crystallize probably.

If this was only one solvent pull, you'll still have a lot more to take out of the soup. Keep pulling and recycle the naphtha for your next pulls. Do at least 3 or 4, with minimal solvent (50-100ml is enough).

I saw your previous attempt, and I believe you didn't filter the mimosa plant material properly, that's why your separating funnel clogged. Mimosa powder is tricky to filter, my method goes something like this:
1.- Decant overnight to settle at the bottom
2.- Filter, coarse (cheese cloth)
3.- Decant again
4.- Filter, finer mesh (coffee filter?)
5.- Decant again
5.- Filter again, finer mesh (lab filter paper)
After two or three decant/filtering stages, your acid soup will be super clear and won't clog the funnel.

Either way, you seem to be doing fine, you got a beautiful extract there. Next time will be easier.
Thank you! So I think largely solved the filtration problem. I ended up getting a Buchner flask with a small vacuum pump. I do my acid cook, allow to settle overnight, decant off that, then rinse that pulp with more pH 4 acetic acid solution. I think this process might be where I left some behind, I need something like a large funnel I can spread it out on and wash more of the surface area instead of squirting vinegar through a large clump. After, I take the resultant liquid and run it through the Buchner filter with a 20 micron filter. This produces a liquid which is still quite red but also free from most particles, it looks quite a bit like a glass of red wine. You can shine a light through it quite easily. After that, nothing I did caused the separation funnel to clog up.


Re pulls: After basifying with lye, I did 2x 30mL pulls and a final 50mL pull. All were on a stir plate in an erlenmeyer flask with a light vortex going for ~15-20 minutes each. I then did a defat step resalting and then basifying and repeating the same pulls.
 
hello, i'm new. how do you use the crsytals? i read how to extract but i don't know what do with the crystals afterwards.
I have not actually used them myself yet, I'm still learning. I have some plans to build machines but none have yet been realized.

Search around; there are plenty of answers about this.
 
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