First time - No breakthrough but definite effects

[Infowars]

So I just finished my first semi-successful dmt experience. I used 50mg in a glass vaporgenie. After tweaking my smoking technique with the advice and help from the forum members I was able to feel some pretty intense things...

I inhaled my first hit and began counting down from 20, trying to hold my breath until I hit 1. I got to 11 and had to exhale. It was at that moment everything started to change. The feeling and immediate shift was so intense that I wasn't even able to take a second hit, and was a little apprehensive to do so. The whole room started warping, pulsing and dancing with vibrant colours. It was so beautiful and strange that I forgot to close my eyes. I looked at the ceiling and it was split into 5 levels made of cogs and gears.

While I didn't see any entities or get yanked out of this reality to another, I definitely feel like I could have were I brave enough to take that second and third hit.

Having said that, I was wondering what some of the members here do when they feel hypserspace coming on after the first hit? Do you just bear down and give it another hit or does the feeling sometimes grab you before you're able to take another one in and jump to hyperspace?

 

[q21q21]

SWIM hes never seen entities with open eyes besides "eyes" in the walls. It seems that some people get open-eyed hallucination far far easier than others.
SWIM's brother does on lots of stuff, SWIM has had so few he actually has counted them

1 bee on mimosahuasca
1 brown snow flake and 2 flies on benedryl (terrible trip, not reccomended)
1 fly on 2c-b

Anyway despite that SWIM has seen many many entities with closed eyes on mescaline, LSD, LSA, 2c-B and basically anything that he's taken a large dose of.

With smoked DMT SWIM finds that the entities on pure white DMT will tend to be more elvish and less clear/far away,
on full alkaloid or yellow spice or if combined with oral or sublingual maoi's they become more personal, and more defined.

Example: On pure white SWIM tends to see just the legs and arms of the entities, he can't remember a time he's clearly seen a face of an entity on pure DMT.

On yellow (N-N-DMT-oxide) or full-alkaloid jim-jam he's seen amazing entities, male, female, alien, avatar-like, african american. Seen detailed faces and shared close experiences with them.
He's also seen clearly different entities combining white spice with thujone (absyinth extract) curcumin (turmeric extract) and harmaline+harmine (syrian rue extract)

Changa SWIM would assume would have a similar effect, though SWIM doesn't have a proper smoking device for it and has never tried.


So in summary:
-closing your eyes will drastically change the experience

-Using full-alkaloids (pulled with limonene/xylene/toluene) changes the experience

-Combining it with herbs or orally or smoke can change the experience as well.


Good luck!

 

[Blackstatis]

it takes a few times to be able to tell yourself to just keep going. you think the rush of the first hit is crazy... tell yourself to hit it again after already feeling real wild. thats something that takes a little self control. however to answer your question, yes, i feel it come on after the first hit, hold for about ten seconds like you did, then go for it again. sometimes it takes a third hit to clear the dose, but you just have to do it. you have to! and unlike the poster above me, i have had my eyes open and had the whole world around me dissolve and turn into a different place. not like i saw my room as a different or foreign place, not like i perceived the room as a different place... i was engulfed into a different place, its incredible. keep at it, you'll figure it out and it will blow your mind every level you get to.

 

[gammagore]

hehehe, ye dude, I find it hard to carry on ripping my smoking devise after that first rip, but, you just gotta try. soon you will have a tek down. Breathing in from the botom of your stomach helps to get a really big rip. But yes, you need to rip it till you dont know VG from lighter

With the VG you can just rip again when you are ready.

Oh infowars, im glad it worked for you

 

[gibran2]

Once when I was about to take a third hit, I saw 3 pairs of my hands, all displaced in time. Only one pair was in the present. Needless to say, I was unable to take a third hit. :shock:

My solution to dealing with the rapid onset of effects is to try to get a full dose in the first hit. Using my GVG has made this very easy to do. I have only average lung capacity, so if I can do it, I’d think most others can as well. I take a few deep breaths to ensure I’m well oxygenated, then exhale very deeply, and then I inhale slowly, but not so slowly that I’ll run out of lung capacity before the dose is all vaporized.