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dazultra

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Apologies if I get the terminology wrong; I’m a total noob in training :).

So, I made my first batch from 50g of Acacia acuminata.

I tried this method (roughly)

I used heptane instead of Shellite. My results were poor, as I did everything cold and didn’t do multiple boils, I guess that explains why I ended up with so little. I just did 2 pulls with heptane, the first got it all, with nothing in the second pull. I got 176mg, which was less than I was hoping for, but the crystals were very white, possibly slightly pink after I scraped it together, with no goo.

I popped it into a vape pen with the ratio of 500mg DMT to 1 ml PG juice, which was just over a third of the 1 ml ceramic cartridge.

I did it last night while laying in bed; I took a couple of hits, holding the inhale for about 10 seconds or more; nothing on the first hit, but from the 2nd, I started to trip quite strongly; my first thought was awesome, It’s working, I made DMT!!! The trip was more intense with my eyes open; objects were changing and melting it was incredibly bizarre, the plain white cushion on my bed looked like it was orange felt fabric and it was in a pool of green goo; everything had a 70’s psychedelic vibe, I have never experienced such a strong visual trip compared to intense mushroom trips in the past. As I was smoking and holding for 10 seconds and more, I would forget to breathe out sometimes as I was tripping so hard, the trip would intensify, and I would keep taking hits. However, when I lay down, I still hadn’t broken through it would start to fade so I would take another hit even though the world was melting around me. I was tripping off my head, I remember people saying take another hit no matter how intense the current trip was, I would reach for the pen that was hard to see and take a hit as the trip was still intense, but the same cycle would happen, intense just around the inhale and hold. As I waited, it would wear off relatively quick.
I am currently on SSRIs for depression related to having cancer, and people mentioned it may not work because of them. I kept taking hits and tripping heavier, but I had no breakthrough. Then I started to get this uncomfortable headache and tightness behind my head and started shivering like crazy; it was pretty unpleasant. It didn’t feel right, and I thought it might be related to the SSRI, so after a while, I thought the shivering might be from too many hits, that maybe it was drawn out too long, I was losing count because I was tripping so hard, but it could have been 8 hits, the vape pen was hard to see, visuals were intense and surreal, I eased off as I was having doubts because of the SSRI’s. I waited for about 15 minutes until I felt normal again and tried again; still no breakthrough but I felt less off, so at least it was better, but I certainly wasn’t feeling terrific.

I noticed the smell, which I found somewhat unpleasant and smelt like chemicals or melting plastic; I wasn’t sure if it was because my vape had mainly PG but also VG. I also wondered if I should have used a flavour, it made me feel uneasy about the experience as I wasn’t sure if that was how it should smell.

I’ll try making more, but this time, I’ll do a heated stovetop/crockpot version. I might use Shellite for pulls and wash it after with heptane if I get goo.

It was a fantastic experience. I love intense triping, but the intense shivers and uncomfortable feelings affected the experience negatively as it drove doubts associated with SSRIs



I have some questions…

  • Has anyone experienced uncontrollable shivers and feeling off while doing it, even while under a blanket?

  • Has anyone managed to experience a breakthrough while on SSRIs?

  • Should it have an unpleasant smell, like melting plastic? Is it something you grow to like, or do you mask it?

  • I have some very old Shellite in my garage. Does it degrade, or should I be okay with using it? I live in Australia and hear that Shellite is not the same quality as it used to be.

  • I’m also thinking that I should try turning my vape up a bit and maybe try fasting in the morning. It was on low (baby steps), but I also thought something like a Vapor Genie might be a good idea. I had a look here: vaporgenie.com. I was wondering if they all work as well as each other, or should I go for the Glass Sherlock?

  • Do people trip with their eyes open or close, or does it make any difference when you blast off?

Thanks in advance for any help/tips; I am excited to have embarked on this wild adventure! 😄
 
I have some questions…

  • Has anyone experienced uncontrollable shivers and feeling off while doing it, even while under a blanket?
Yes, that can be normal. I usually see it as stuff my body has to let go off (even possible past trauma), just let it do it's thing, dont try to suppress it and enjoy the release.

  • Has anyone managed to experience a breakthrough while on SSRIs?
SSRI usually suppress the effect of psychedelics. Taking it together with harmalas (MAOI-A) can even be life threatening, so please never do that.
  • Should it have an unpleasant smell, like melting plastic? Is it something you grow to like, or do you mask it?
Burned plastic smell is a sign that you are burning your spice and that is a bad sign.

You probably have your vape into too high a temperature or too high wattage. Lower it substantially and check if that helps.


  • I have some very old Shellite in my garage. Does it degrade, or should I be okay with using it? I live in Australia and hear that Shellite is not the same quality as it used to be.
I'm unaware of shelite storage or any long term degrading. Maybe other more knowledgeable members can come in?

  • I’m also thinking that I should try turning my vape up a bit and maybe try fasting in the morning. It was on low (baby steps), but I also thought something like a Vapor Genie might be a good idea. I had a look here: vaporgenie.com. I was wondering if they all work as well as each other, or should I go for the Glass Sherlock?
Just lowering temp and wattage should be a good first step, after that you can search for other options.

  • Do people trip with their eyes open or close, or does it make any difference when you blast off?
I prefer starting closed, though over the journey at times I love to open my eyes to check the reality around me and see the fractals on objects with OEV.

Thanks in advance for any help/tips; I am excited to have embarked on this wild adventure! 😄
Good questions, and read up well on the answers and hopefully have a safe and smooth journey!



Kind regards,

The Traveler
 
Thanks so much for your detailed reply; I appreciate it!
That's interesting about the shivers, I guess I have lots of trauma from cancer dealing with cancer over the last three years, I like your approach to this.

What should it smell like? I guess I wouldn't say it smelt like burnt plastic but more warm or melting plastic; I've read somewhere it can be like mothballs, which I have no idea what they smell like, but I guess it could be like that—kind of an odd chemical smell, but not pleasant.

Thanks again, and I look forward to the next experience.
 
I'm unaware of shelite storage or any long term degrading. Maybe other more knowledgeable members can come in?
Shellite will be stable indefinitely, but there's a possibility that some of the more volatile components will slowly evaporate away. If it evaporates cleanly to start with, this shouldn't be too much of an issue. Other points of greater or lesser concern may arise depending on the material of the container in which the solvent is stored, e.g. rust or plasticisers.
 
What should it smell like? I guess I wouldn't say it smelt like burnt plastic but more warm or melting plastic; I've read somewhere it can be like mothballs, which I have no idea what they smell like, but I guess it could be like that—kind of an odd chemical smell, but not pleasant.
Correctly extracted DMT-freebase is usually quite neutral in smell and taste. I normally only notice it the vapour from it when it's base properties hits my lungs.

By converting the DMT-freebase to DMT-citrate, when I put that in my vape liquid (PG) it is way more neutral for my lungs and I barely notice any of it. For me that is currently the best option for vaping DMT.

Burnt DMT you would notice immediately, it's about the exact same smell as literally burning plastic, including the black smoke. Once you have smelled that rancid smell you will probably remember it for the rest of your life. 😁


Kind regards,

The Traveler
 
Shellite will be stable indefinitely, but there's a possibility that some of the more volatile components will slowly evaporate away. If it evaporates cleanly to start with, this shouldn't be too much of an issue. Other points of greater or lesser concern may arise depending on the material of the container in which the solvent is stored, e.g. rust or plasticisers.
Good point, it's in a plastic container, I guess I'll pass on that fuel source
 
Correctly extracted DMT-freebase is usually quite neutral in smell and taste. I normally only notice it the vapour from it when it's base properties hits my lungs.

By converting the DMT-freebase to DMT-citrate, when I put that in my vape liquid (PG) it is way more neutral for my lungs and I barely notice any of it. For me that is currently the best option for vaping DMT.

Burnt DMT you would notice immediately, it's about the exact same smell as literally burning plastic, including the black smoke. Once you have smelled that rancid smell you will probably remember it for the rest of your life. 😁


Kind regards,

The Traveler
What are DMT-freebase and DMT-citrate? Do you recommend just using PG in a vape with DMT? I didn't enjoy the smell last time; something more neutral sounds excellent!
 
What are DMT-freebase and DMT-citrate? Do you recommend just using PG in a vape with DMT? I didn't enjoy the smell last time; something more neutral sounds excellent!

DMT-fumarate:

DMT-lactate:

DMT-citrate had the best results though, you can find a lot for that in that topic as well.


Kind regards,

The Traveler
 
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DMT-fumarate:

DMT-lactate:

DMT-citrate had the best results though, you can find a lot for that in that topic as well.


Kind regards,

The Traveler
Thanks again; this is fantastic info!
 
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