Forgetting DMT Experiences

[thecosmicjoke]

Hello,

As of late I have been forgetting my experiences. This is becoming frustrating. I have been using DMT nearly daily lately. Realistically I'm using 4-5x a week now. An issue I'm running into that has only developed from my most recent batch is forgetting the experience entirely. In a session today, I found myself "falling asleep" as I broke through, and all I can remember is seeing some kind of dark fabric being torn down the middle by bright light. When I realized I was in a headspace of forgetfulness, I tried to snap out quick, almost like trying to stay awake during class. I've been pretty inattentive today and in general lately. This might contribute to the forgetfulness of my experience. I am going to try again here in an hour and REALLY try to focus on staying aware and not forgetting. We'll see what happens.

I'm curious if anybody else has had a similar experience, either with DMT tolerance or with forgetting the trip entirely. I've heard of people being locked out of hyperspace, but I haven't gotten any message like this from the DMT lately. This is sort of similar to staying lucid while falling asleep, but I don't understand why it has just recently developed. Maybe its a challenge set for me to overcome by the DMT. It has something to do with my lack of awareness.

Insight is appreciated. Thanks to all.

 

[Exitwound]

I think that brain hardware is simply not suited to handle such intense memories. Especially when you have no formed neural connections for concepts you encounter, they simply slip from you in a sober state.
Forgetting trips and remembering them again while in the trip was usual for me. It suggests that maybe there is some higher, not directly accessible memory mechanism in consciousness.

Also I think your usage is too frequent, you kinda answering your own question there. I had similar frequency run and it's hard to remember all crazy stuff that happens inbeween.

 

[🌺🔥🫧]

I've been investigating whether being in fight & flight, causes us not only to miss things, but forget things that we might otherwise know. Implying that reducing your stress can increase your capacity for attention, memory, and the infinitely subtler shades of relation/emotion/consciousness which were previously unavailable to you under dominance of stronger emotions.

You see this from the moment we are born, there is both trauma as we enter this unknown world, agitating us to cry out. We can't even see. And there is also our mother hopefully. From this moment onwards, outside of the womb we are growing into greater subtlety of awareness, learning to familiarize ourselves with the unfamiliar. Our identity evolves into this world.

As with many mystical cultures, learning to live in effortless harmony with this body you've been incarnated into, and the greater existence your consciousness witnesses, will help you be in a position of full receptivity to experience and the truth. All the things we fight, so inefficiently, exhaustively, we eventually learn to respond to in more beautiful ways.

So, according to mystical culture at least, the process of remembrance is connected to acknowledgement of what is, acceptance, a relinquishing of trying to control, and letting yourself be witness, and letting yourself re-act freely.

Trying, Fighting, Striving, Escaping, Avoiding, consumes your awareness as fuel. As long as we wish to expend our soul energy, we can do so, until we can't. Then reality will change you into someone new. This is kinof just the esoteric story of things as I have come to understand it, for what it's worth to you.




I was writing a little in Neuroscience Musings (on DMT-Nexus) recently about the fight or flight in the brain. The HPA axis gets activated to mobilize our energy systems, spiking adrenaline, glucose, cortisol, dopamine, and decreasing metabolism of those molecules. This activation actually is also in balance with other molecules and systems such as oxytocin, vasopressin, and the Vagus Nerve (which relaxes us, and creates the foundational stepping stone for activating pro-social engagement parts of our brain). I was curious whether a diet, or consummatory regimen which mitigates exposure to adrenaline, glucose, cortisol, and dopamine might help us - in end effect - enhance the process of remembering more.

I can definitely attest to the fact that such a diet helps you with intoxicating emoitions! it's been helping me a lot. It's very refreshing. With fewer emotions to struggle with, there is that much more clarity with which to meditate, read books, exercise, witness the universe etc. I can only recommend such a dietary change so far, if you are a psychonaut/spiritaulist like me. Some of it's physical/sciencey characteristics are:
-Low glycemic index
-'Low flavor' (dopamine), easy on the spices, preferably raw, unspiced, unsalted.
-Low adrenaline. Meat, Dairy, Caffeine, Nicotine, Amphetamine, Pickles, and some other foods have adrenalines in them.
-Low toxicity (try to avoid microplastics, pesticides, and all other manner of pollutants!!)
-Make sure your Iron and EAA's are met!

Food is something we are almost constantly exposed to in our guts. It's one of the most subtle drugs we never actually think is a drug, but we take it every day, and it's always effecting us! As you well know, drugs are powerful xD




Sometimes when we are not ready for what we see, it can hide itself inside of us. Sometimes, we will only notice that which we are ready to notice, even when we are shown everything right in front of us.

It's a big topic These are just some random reflections of mine right now! I am curious to see how your mission to remember your DMT journeys better goes !!! Would love to stay posted.

 

[acacian]

Its very normal to forget a lot of the content in experiences and be left with a rough picture/linear narrative of the journey. A lot of the stuff in hyperspace isn't really translatable back to this plane IME - with exception to some of the emotional aspects. That doesn't mean it doesn't do to you what it needs to do.. the journey continues when you come out. There's a knowingness as you emerge. That might fade a little with time, but deep down I think it steers you in an lot of ways. But I'm curious - who here can remember all of their experiences so vividly?

I would also suggest maybe trying a bit of a break, and see if that makes a difference. The fact that this is only a recent development in your DMT 'career' could suggest a correlation with frequency of use. Not saying there is necessarily anything wrong with using DMT frequently, but it might be something to bear in mind.

 

[universecannon]

Add a large glass singing bowl and smoke a bit less

 

[thecosmicjoke]

I've been investigating whether being in fight & flight, causes us not only to miss things, but forget things that we might otherwise know. Implying that reducing your stress can increase your capacity for attention, memory, and the infinitely subtler shades of relation/emotion/consciousness which were previously unavailable to you under dominance of stronger emotions.

You see this from the moment we are born, there is both trauma as we enter this unknown world, agitating us to cry out. We can't even see. And there is also our mother hopefully. From this moment onwards, outside of the womb we are growing into greater subtlety of awareness, learning to familiarize ourselves with the unfamiliar. Our identity evolves into this world.

As with many mystical cultures, learning to live in effortless harmony with this body you've been incarnated into, and the greater existence your consciousness witnesses, will help you be in a position of full receptivity to experience and the truth. All the things we fight, so inefficiently, exhaustively, we eventually learn to respond to in more beautiful ways.

So, according to mystical culture at least, the process of remembrance is connected to acknowledgement of what is, acceptance, a relinquishing of trying to control, and letting yourself be witness, and letting yourself re-act freely.

Trying, Fighting, Striving, Escaping, Avoiding, consumes your awareness as fuel. As long as we wish to expend our soul energy, we can do so, until we can't. Then reality will change you into someone new. This is kinof just the esoteric story of things as I have come to understand it, for what it's worth to you.




I was writing a little in Neuroscience Musings (on DMT-Nexus) recently about the fight or flight in the brain. The HPA axis gets activated to mobilize our energy systems, spiking adrenaline, glucose, cortisol, dopamine, and decreasing metabolism of those molecules. This activation actually is also in balance with other molecules and systems such as oxytocin, vasopressin, and the Vagus Nerve (which relaxes us, and creates the foundational stepping stone for activating pro-social engagement parts of our brain). I was curious whether a diet, or consummatory regimen which mitigates exposure to adrenaline, glucose, cortisol, and dopamine might help us - in end effect - enhance the process of remembering more.

I can definitely attest to the fact that such a diet helps you with intoxicating emoitions! it's been helping me a lot. It's very refreshing. With fewer emotions to struggle with, there is that much more clarity with which to meditate, read books, exercise, witness the universe etc. I can only recommend such a dietary change so far, if you are a psychonaut/spiritaulist like me. Some of it's physical/sciencey characteristics are:
-Low glycemic index
-'Low flavor' (dopamine), easy on the spices, preferably raw, unspiced, unsalted.
-Low adrenaline. Meat, Dairy, Caffeine, Nicotine, Amphetamine, Pickles, and some other foods have adrenalines in them.
-Low toxicity (try to avoid microplastics, pesticides, and all other manner of pollutants!!)
-Make sure your Iron and EAA's are met!

Food is something we are almost constantly exposed to in our guts. It's one of the most subtle drugs we never actually think is a drug, but we take it every day, and it's always effecting us! As you well know, drugs are powerful xD




Sometimes when we are not ready for what we see, it can hide itself inside of us. Sometimes, we will only notice that which we are ready to notice, even when we are shown everything right in front of us.

It's a big topic These are just some random reflections of mine right now! I am curious to see how your mission to remember your DMT journeys better goes !!! Would love to stay posted.

That is certainly a good take. I think there is definitely a correlation between my state of stress and how well I remember the experience. I also find that when I wake up early with the intention to smoke DMT, it is far easier for me to forget the experience because my mind is still sleepy. DMT has morphed into less of a passive experience for me, and more of an active engagement with it. I think that is the lesson I have gathered from these spells of forgetfulness. DMT is not going to do the work for me, I have to be a participant in it. If I do not actively engage with it, the experience will pass me by. I do this a lot in life.

 

[thecosmicjoke]

I think that brain hardware is simply not suited to handle such intense memories. Especially when you have no formed neural connections for concepts you encounter, they simply slip from you in a sober state.
Forgetting trips and remembering them again while in the trip was usual for me. It suggests that maybe there is some higher, not directly accessible memory mechanism in consciousness.

Also I think your usage is too frequent, you kinda answering your own question there. I had similar frequency run and it's hard to remember all crazy stuff that happens inbeween.

I really don't feel like my usage is too frequent, and I understand how that sounds when I say I use nearly daily. I am aware that there will most likely be a time that I stand corrected. What I have noticed, with frequent use, is that there are times I am less consciously engaged with the experience. I think those are the times that lead to my forgetting. I say this because I smoked again in the evening, and remembered the entire experience, which was very long and complex. I believe there is work to be done with me through DMT, and I feel called to it in a unique way. There was a point in my life I smoked weed daily, but I never deluded myself into thinking it was something I was supposed to do. I always knew it wasn't. This feels distinctly different, but I may look back on this feeling and laugh.