I wanted to say something meaningful but i've been speaking a lot lately and .. well, i must be lost for words    what Habib said (kudos to your beetle sir, and your words) triggered a rush of agreeance.. as in, if i were going to say something, i'd have said that      regarding phalaris.. I believe reed canary grass (p.arundinacea) is what a lot of people are using, but i'd strongly suggest p.brachystachys        [img:357a3c18d5]http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/ana.gif[/img:357a3c18d5] dang bots, how bad [img:357a3c18d5]http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/ana.gif[/img:357a3c18d5]