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Fractal meatgrinder on mushrooms and nutmeg

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MemeLord

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Two weeks ago I mixed 50g of fresh cubes and 17g of whole nutmeg.
Nutmeg was taken first ant on T+3:30 I took 50g of fresh mushrooms (z-strain again).
First it was very exciting and euphoric. I was looking on my wallpaper and it has symmetric pattern, and was that feeling of wall being WAY BIGGER then it is and covering all my field of view. I was so happe smiling and excited just looking on it, because vision cleared up, I started too se with my peripheral vision aswell. Everything was just slightly glowing, not many true visuals yet.
So I sat down if front of computer, put my headphones, tured on calming music and turned on this screensaver. Safe, in my room, with calming music, what could probably go wrong?
Sorry for my language but soon I understood I'm getting really fucked up. REALLY. FUCKED. UP.
I saw patterns in the movement of grass and it started to repeat wierdly, but I didn't care. I was anxious for no reason. I turned it off, put off my headphones and looked around, nothing really changed except feeling everything is getting different very fast. I was feeling like I was tied to a rocked and it's engine just started. Fear of the uknown, of something I can see that can break me, that it can be too much, that this mix is very less known. Surfaces started to blink black and white like a bugged texture in videogame. I got paranoid af at this point, so I went to a kitchen to make a tea and eat some cookies. Then first visuals came (and they vere fantastic) but I didn't care about them. I was trying to convince myself that I will be okay, that this is just my ego trying to fight back, that I have to let it go. But there was no way to let it go. Close my eyes and relax, surrender to this feeling of the i-dont-know-how-to-call-it didn't take the fear away, I can only not make it worse and that's what I did. I started to feel (well actaully I repeated this in my head) "I'm disappearing, I'm disappearing, fuck". No methods of trying to calm down or rationalize didn't help. Unless suddenly, by itself DING - and everything was okay. Literally in one moment for no reason I realised there is nothing to afraid.

Visuals vere FANTASTIC. They were not just color show, actually color didn't change too much. It was the image itself - it was perfectly geometric. It's like room was covered in a curved volumetric grid and every object was tend to fill cell in this perfect grid. Since that moment my thoughs almost shut down and my memory is hazy. I went back into my room, jumped under the blanket and started to look around. All field of view was covered in a big transparent fractal and every object was uhhm aligning to this fractal. Like no fractals popped out of nowhere, everything was a fractal. There were a lot of visuals which are hard to describe for me in english and even harder to replicate. But they all were based on something that was already there, and they were all about geometry, recursions and of course fractals. I started to freak out slightly again, visuals by themselves almost pressured on me, like those fractals were displacing something that was left from me. But further looking on my wallpaper pattern forming binary tree (where every next branch is twice shorter) it started to seem so natural. Like I was really tripping balls but this state started to seem hospitable? Comfort? REAL? Idk, but what I know now that if mushrooms want to scare you, they will do this and there is nothing you can do but wait they will give you a hug.

Further to visual description. I had texutre repetition a lot, but this piece of texture was repeating always in a fractal manner. Cracks on my ceiling formed another binary tree. I also started to see there a lot of dots and then there were more dots and they formed a spirals, like galaxy spirals but black. Wooden texture of my wardrobe started to form fantastic towers which soon became volumetric. Dirt spots lower on my wardrobe started to form wolf faces. Soon everything was covered like in fluorescent paint art. Textures could just de-attach from the surface and cover all field of view transforming into something. Long story short everything was ordered, nothing could be random and chaotic. And everything that was (or seemed?) chaotic sober looked ordered.

Closed eyes visuals were not so easy to achieve. Not like I close my eyes and instantly see them. First what I saw with closed eyes were just stains but of course geometrically perfect, more concentration and they move, become volumetric and even not absctract. Like a dot after looking to the lamp started to repeat itself, then turned to a glowing sphere in a centre on vision and then turned to a disco ball. But overall closed eyes geometry was the most beautiful and hard to replicate. I saw a lot replications of OEV which are KINDa similar, but CEV's were way more complex. They holographic, very delicate and intricate, not just generic spinning kaleidoscopes. Like I saw red dots which started to swarm and when there were too many of they they formed green rectangle and it was wawing and in some parts dissolving into those dots and they they go back. Ugh... So sad but I barely remember CEV's except they were amazing.

My headspace is another story. Almost no thoghts. They were just shut up, I didn't think much, it was hard to think and there was no point in thinking. Sometimes there were moments of silence. It's like I started to hear silence and this silence was so silent it was almost ringing in ears. Also my understanding of all thing is world turned down to base abstractions. Like you think about car, think about specific car, details, but for me it was just "car" or even "vehicle". And everything was labeled by some basic abstractions like "me", "friend", "home", "pet" and couldn't go any further. I also didn't feel my body. Few times I felt how my heart was beating but this is was it. When I was under blanket not moving the image I saw and the sounds I heard were the only thing present. Closed eyes created feeling of huge empty space in front of them and that I was floating and huge void. With opened eyes image also had direction of movement and I was like moving with it. I remember how I was breathing and I felt like room was breathing together with me. Okay, you know what, I should stop... There were a lot of really interesting things also happened during the trip, but you got the point. My memory is hazy about some parts of it and I don't remember everything chronologically (even though during the trip time was linear). Let's just jump to conclusions...

Aaaand, I don't have them. It was very hard, devastating, beautiful, breathtaking experience and it's not like I... Got something from it? Day after a trip I felt like ordinary things were alien for me, and I was just playing my role (which I probably don't even like), but it's gone soon. I was afraid of darkness few days, but it's also gone. I tried to catch at least something usefull and lifechanging from it and integrate it, but there is just nothing integrate. I was chewed into fractal meatgrinder, my personality was turned into dust, then I was roughly reassembled from dust and this is still 100% me. Now I'm thinking maybe everything is actaully beautiful as pointless.

I learned more thing about mushrooms which are:
0.Don't mix it with nutmeg! (It was fun, but only once, srsly)
1.Comeup anxiety is real
2.You don't have to afraid if there is no "you"
3.If trip is getting really scary there is still a big chance for a positive experince.
4.If they want to scare you, they will do it, it will probably not turn you into mentally ill, though.
5.FRACTALS EVERYWHERE I SAW THE TRUTH. Jk, I understand that it was just pattern recognition system
went crazy (in a good way)

P.S. mushroom trip lasted for 5 and half hours and after that I felt sober.
 
Nice report. Your vivid description of how it feels to be in the CEV mushroom space brought me right back there.

Time will tell as to what you get out of it. Integration takes rather longer than a couple of days sometimes.


BTW, you should really consider making tincture of nutmeg. Consistent dosing is easier and it serves as a pleasant enhancer of various substances when taken at a low dose (5mL, roughly equivalent to 1g of nutmeg, but as a tincture it's absorbed into the body MUCH more efficiently than from the solid. YMMV.)

IMO tincture is a much more effective way of using nutmeg - eating large quantities of nutmeg solids is not sensible.
 
downwardsfromzero said:
Nice report. Your vivid description of how it feels to be in the CEV mushroom space brought me right back there.

Time will tell as to what you get out of it. Integration takes rather longer than a couple of days sometimes.


BTW, you should really consider making tincture of nutmeg. Consistent dosing is easier and it serves as a pleasant enhancer of various substances when taken at a low dose (5mL, roughly equivalent to 1g of nutmeg, but as a tincture it's absorbed into the body MUCH more efficiently than from the solid. YMMV.)

IMO tincture is a much more effective way of using nutmeg - eating large quantities of nutmeg solids is not sensible.
I'm junt not sure if there is something to integrate. I learned a lot bout mushrooms themselves, and probably won't freak out next time just because fear of the unknown factor will be reduced by a lot.
Also setting was bad. Night, room, computer, artificial lighting, walls - it was bad, they were almost freaking me out. I wanted nature, sun, forest (which is impossible now) or at least park. Next time I'll try less and outdoors and won't mix with anything, maybe just some weed. I also might try it on empty seashore when weather gets warmer. Seeing symmetry and fractals would be more pleasant while looking on tress, grass or sea, than in cracks on ceiling or wallpaper patterns. There is also a huge difference between artificial light and sunlight no matter how bright artificial light can be.

I'll try an extract! But I'm lazy and not doing it so often to make an extraction. I actually found few local online shops where I can get essential oil of nutmeg and parsley. I think it's even better option.

Also physically this mix wasn't very pleasant, because during the peak I felt so cold it was impossible to go out of blanket. I barely felt my body even when I was moving, but out of blanket I just felt discomfort and only later realised it was cold. I was also shaking and sometimes even though I didn't feel my body, my heart was beating really fast.
 
Ive read nutmeg is not safe to take in high doses...

Can you extract the visual trippy part of nutmeg only?.. and if so... shouldent the extraction leave behind the unsafe part of nutmeg behind?

If you can seperate the bad from the good in nutmeg it will be interesting to hear your nutmeg tincture only trip report!...but be carefull..
 
starway6 said:
Ive read nutmeg is not safe to take in high doses...

Can you extract the visual trippy part of nutmeg only?.. and if so... shouldent the extraction leave behind the unsafe part of nutmeg behind?

If you can seperate the bad from the good in nutmeg it will be interesting to hear your nutmeg tincture only trip report!...but be carefull..
It's not that dangerous, but it can be unpleasant together with shrooms. I had smoke-weed-every-day challenge this week and can tell that too much weed can feel even less pleasant than too much nutmeg. Main negatives for me are literally the same, but no one died from weed overdose or overdose of cannabis edibles (even though some of them felt they are dying :D).
 
downwardsfromzero said:
Nice report. Your vivid description of how it feels to be in the CEV mushroom space brought me right back there.

Time will tell as to what you get out of it. Integration takes rather longer than a couple of days sometimes.


BTW, you should really consider making tincture of nutmeg. Consistent dosing is easier and it serves as a pleasant enhancer of various substances when taken at a low dose (5mL, roughly equivalent to 1g of nutmeg, but as a tincture it's absorbed into the body MUCH more efficiently than from the solid. YMMV.)

IMO tincture is a much more effective way of using nutmeg - eating large quantities of nutmeg solids is not sensible.

I know I should do my research and I will google now but asking, what does nutmeg do for one taking mushrooms or psychedelics? or other substances?

is it like Syrian rue which potentiates psychedelics or does nutmeg do something else?
 
I and a few others found that a smallish dose of nutmeg tincture prior to taking mushrooms made the experience seem more colourful and euphoric; it's hard to assess whether the potency was subjectively increased but that may well be the case. Normally the ground isn't waving up and down like a rollercoaster even when I take a stiff dose of shrooms, so something was doing the job.

It may still have been a stiff dose with excellent set and setting, however.
 
Hotspur922 said:
I know I should do my research and I will google now but asking, what does nutmeg do for one taking mushrooms or psychedelics? or other substances?

is it like Syrian rue which potentiates psychedelics or does nutmeg do something else?

It's very hard to distinguish effects of theese two for me, I mean it all felt like really hard mushroom trip. But I think it adds this feeling of being stunned, memory is not working properly at all, and I literally didn't feel my body if I wasn't moving every two seconds. When I calm down I remember how texture of ceiling detached from ceiling, covered all my vision, got mirrored (like this И|N) then was mirrored the same way but vertically and that was all that existed. It was very exciting to see all this without feeling body. Maybe mushrooms on high doses also numb the body idk, but it was that type of numbness when you are baked.

I almost sure it's not MAOI though, more like taking shrooms while being baked, but I didn't mixed cannabis with shrooms and not sure if I'm going to. Physical state isn't the most comfortable. I remember not feeling body at all, but still feeling heart beating really fast and maybe evean hearing it at some point.

downwardsfromzero said:
I and a few others found that a smallish dose of nutmeg tincture prior to taking mushrooms made the experience seem more colourful and euphoric; it's hard to assess whether the potency was subjectively increased but that may well be the case. Normally the ground isn't waving up and down like a rollercoaster even when I take a stiff dose of shrooms, so something was doing the job.

It may still have been a stiff dose with excellent set and setting, however.

I think a small amount of nutmeg on a high dose of mushrooms won't do much because you won't notice slight nmegs effects under strong effects of mushrooms. Small dose of mushrooms under high dose of nutmeg could be still interesting and even not that scary. And what I did is probably got more immersion in exchange to being too much disconnected.
 
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