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Fusing DMT and THC, any thoughts?

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Bo

Bo

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I've been mulling over different extraction techs and it's striking the parallels between THC extraction and DMT extraction. As a result I've been trying to suss out the logistics of doing a dual extraction, combining Orion's DMT extraction method with my own method of extracting crystalline THC to simultaneously produce both in the same batch, a DMT THC hybrid if you will.
Has anyone tried this before? Or can anyone see a reason I've missed for this not to work?

Cheers

Bo
 
i would try the experience of thc and dmt before you go through with this.

personally i like the combination, but the overwhelming majority seems to disagree with me.
saying it clouds the mind, and makes it harder to remember the experience.


but.. what technique do you use to extract THC?
i have never before heard that it is possible for the kitchen chemist to get that high a level of purity (i thought honey oil was as good as it gets for us)
 
Ugh, no offense, but that sounds absolutely hellish.

Pure THC, without the modulating by the effects of CBD is an extremely unpleasant experience, marked by high degrees of paranoia, psychosis and dysphoria. Combining that with DMT seems like it's a recipe for a 10 minute jaunt into Hell.

I personally also am not crazy about the cannabis/DMT combination, for a lot of the reasons other people are: it clouds the experiences, and for me, adds a hefty element of paranoia and 'displacement,' (that's the only way I can describe it).

I would much rather be 'sober' when I go traveling.

All this said, when I do smoke DMT and cannabis at the same time, once I'm back from hyperspace, my cannabis high tends to be extremely positive with some residual psychedelic-ness. I've often wondered about combining sub-threshold doses of DMT with cannabis to enhance the later's effects.
 
Nathanial.Dread said:
All this said, when I do smoke DMT and cannabis at the same time, once I'm back from hyperspace, my cannabis high tends to be extremely positive with some residual psychedelic-ness. I've often wondered about combining sub-threshold doses of DMT with cannabis to enhance the later's effects.
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I feel the same, but as you said, slow dose of dmt...8)
 
Everyone has their different feelings on the matter.
I for one have always thought it'd be just lovely to mix in some DMT goo with some hash oil goo...make a changa out of that...
but that's just me .😉
 
Nathanial.Dread said:
Ugh, no offense, but that sounds absolutely hellish.

Pure THC, without the modulating by the effects of CBD is an extremely unpleasant experience, marked by high degrees of paranoia
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People have done blind studies that support this ^

It just sounds unnecessary and unpleasant. I'd just infuse some dmt into cannabis in the same way that one would make changa..Or just stick both of them in a bowl.
 
Shadowman-x said:
Everyone has their different feelings on the matter.
I for one have always thought it'd be just lovely to mix in some DMT goo with some hash oil goo...make a changa out of that...
but that's just me .😉
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It is not just you. :d A mighty kind budder chanja is of ratio, 1:2:4 - cannabis concentrate:spice:herb. The honey oil is dissolved with the spice as per changa and infused to the herb. The measured dose of spice and the power of the cannabis concentrate seem to keep the full on psychedelic experience at bay. Good perhaps for those who go about stoned, and wish the benefits of the spice frequencies. Aural and visual perception notably enhanced, but one's ability to go on with tasks and communicate is not so severely altered as with strong changa.
 
Parshvik Chintan said:
but.. what technique do you use to extract THC?
i have never before heard that it is possible for the kitchen chemist to get that high a level of purity (i thought honey oil was as good as it gets for us)
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To be honest it was by accident I managed to do it, I suppose really it'll be some kind of methylated THC. It's an ancient alchemical extraction tech used for herbs I ever so slightly modified. I'll do a tech on in this eve cos I'm just about to go to work and don't have time at the mo.

And thanks every one for posting, I must say you've made me think twice before trying out this one. I think I'll have a pop at Shhh's budder chanja and see how that takes me before I dive in the deep end or "Hell" as it my well be.

Shhh said:
Good perhaps think for those who go about stoned, and wish the benefits of the spice frequencies. Aural and visual perception notably enhanced, but one's ability to go on with tasks and communicate is not so severely altered as with strong changa.
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See this is more what I'm after, I spend the majority of my life stoned if I'm honest so I think you my be on to something here. X
 
Bo said:
To be honest it was by accident I managed to do it, I suppose really it'll be some kind of methylated THC. It's an ancient alchemical extraction tech used for herbs I ever so slightly modified. I'll do a tech on in this eve cos I'm just about to go to work and don't have time at the mo.
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sounds fascinating. i'm looking forward to it.
 
ive never thought a butane extraction on RB would do the trick.. although ive never tried it myself..

However I often will smoke changa mixed with cannabis I find that it comes on alot smoother for me then the pounding pure changa gives you. My 1st time I got blasted with a big hit of pure leaf..

for this reason I also will recommend it for 1st time users as it seems to be alot less frightening then pure changa. and when you do move up to pure changa you will kinda know what u in for.😁
 
Kyle109 said:
ive never thought a butane extraction on RB would do the trick.. although ive never tried it myself..
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i am fairly sure he isn't talking about a butane extraction. i should think that level of purity (crystalline product) would be impossible with butane.
 
Thats what I thought so leave it in isopropyl for a few days? If only it was that simple :) hahaha things would be different in society:grin:
 
Hey there how you doing!

I heard a lot of people talking about ISO alcohol for enfusion - I know for a fact this works.

I use bubble bags to wash my leaf/small buds from my tent to extract THC, and I have the spice from other sources. I get 100% iso alcohol distilled for me by a very good old friend - its really important to get 100%!

What I did was I used a tiny little stone bowl, put the H#sh and spice into the bottom of the bowl (I did 250mgs of DMT, 750mgs of H#sh), and only poured in enough iso for it to rise above it by a few mms. Then stirred it gently with a needle untill it was well mixed, then I sat it behind my curtain in the afternoon suns heat (not directly in the sunlight, only the heat from the curtain) with a fan blowing above it (not directly on it).

If you use 100% iso, you wont need much at all, and it will be evapourated in less than an afternoon.

NOTE : When its evapourated, I scrape it together, put it onto a bit of cooking paper (it doesnt stick to it), and sit it in a plastic container to SWEAT for a few days. I dont make it to smoke immediately, I let it sweat for atleast 2 days (in the curtains heat).

And open the container every hour! It helps to put a tissue under the cooking paper. Iso alcohol helps loosen up all the particles etc and help them mix together. The ISO itself does nothing but help MIX the concerntrate. You want to use AS LITTLE ISO as possible and keep it in the ISO for as little time as possible. That way it dries quicker, and you have less taste remaining. It just needs to stirr REALLY well :).
 
PS - I wont send a link to the item, but EBAY, I repeat EBAY sells Syrian Rue that you can extract a MAOI from as well. You can also buy small bottles of 100% iso alcohol on there too :). There is 99% then 100%, try your hardest to get 100%.

Just eBay search "Syrian Rue" and "ISO alcohol", thats where I get all mine! You could make a h#sh, spice and maoi blend :)
 
its easy enough to top a bowl of changa with a nice fleck of quality hash imo.

Bo: i am hanging on the edge of my seat waiting to hear your extraction method!
 
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