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Getting Past the Entities

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dream_denizen

dream_denizen

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Lately I've been struggling with entities that are encountered during a breakthrough. I feel like they are distractions from much larger picture. They are pleasant to the senses at first, but after a while appear in every breakthrough and frankly it's getting old.

I had a session where I tried to put the entities behind me and pass through another veil into the unknown. I came very close but was still held back, not having enough time to continue with my idea of breaking through this breakthrough.

Last night I had the experience I was searching for. No more 'beings,' just a polarized reflection of myself meditating. Energy was beaming out of the top of my head, rising from the root chakra. My consciousness superimposed it's energy into a seperate-structured energy field, more or less in the shape of a honeycomb.

I think I've finally wrapped my head around the idea of exploring hyperspace. With good intentions and solid ideas, one has endless opportunity.
 
I can't imagine the entities I encounter
Ever getting old. The experiences I have are
One of the most amazing and wondrous things
A human being can have in my opinion.
My contact with these things is an ever evolving one that
Keeps getting more amazing and deeper every time .

Can you describe these entities that distract you ?
Is this an experience you have every time ?
 
The majority of the time I do encounter entities. I see it now as this brilliant thing that easily distracts one from the larger picture of the experience. So in your case, you're astonished by the entities when maybe they're holding you back from achieving a greater sensation.

This might be completely valid. If the entities are a reflection of our own ego, searching for what is beyond ourselves is what we are trying to experience when smoking dmt anyway.(I find that searching within oneself is easier with the use of other psychedelics.) So, bursting beyond these ego-visions, we may find the true nature of the spirit molecule.

Rather than being satisfied with the obvious, I now am trying to reach beyond the curtain into the next step in hyperspace.
 
Try coming to terms with the notion that they are you.
Then you are automatically passed "them."

Once I did this, hyperspace made so much more sense.
Just my 2c.
 
۩ said:
Try coming to terms with the notion that they are you.
Then you are automatically passed "them."

Once I did this, hyperspace made so much more sense.
Just my 2c.
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so true...Just accept and become.
 
I understand what your saying I've worked hard at this for a long time.
There is alot to be distracted by and it took me quite a while to move beyond many blocks.
I also got tired of a certain type of oppressive experience and finally after many journeys learned how to stand up to it and move beyond it.
You are on the right track in recognizing a distraction. I think its part of the evolution of this experience.

The thing i'm talking about is not some bright distracting thing. I am at an entirely new level of experience that is so fantastic words break down .

I'm talking about a direct interaction with some kind of incredible intelligent force.
this intelligent collection of entities wrap themselves around my consciousness and we join in some kind of cosmic multidimensional orgy of indescribable sights sounds and feelings. It happened last night I haven't written about it yet.
they seem to be teaching me a new way to see with my mind or working on developing a new level of hyperspacial consciousness.

These things are external and beyond myself and are not an ego reflection. I've come to this conclusion after years of deep work with this stuff. The only role my ego plays is its ability to handle and adjust to deeper an deeper journeys. Apparently we can adjust to hyperspace if we keep practicing.

there are no absolutes and there is no way to prove anything at this point.

I stay far away from all belief systems and preconceptions and face this straight on always.


tell me more detail about his distracting force what does it look like ?
 
dream_denizen said:
The majority of the time I do encounter entities. I see it now as this brilliant thing that easily distracts one from the larger picture of the experience. So in your case, you're astonished by the entities when maybe they're holding you back from achieving a greater sensation.

This might be completely valid. If the entities are a reflection of our own ego, searching for what is beyond ourselves is what we are trying to experience when smoking dmt anyway.(I find that searching within oneself is easier with the use of other psychedelics.) So, bursting beyond these ego-visions, we may find the true nature of the spirit molecule.

Rather than being satisfied with the obvious, I now am trying to reach beyond the curtain into the next step in hyperspace.
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Of course, behind the next curtain, you may again find your reflection. Every level is certainly a gift. Each one just the one we need at that time - just what is needed to move on. The mirror is, perhaps, unlimited in capacity. How perfect. Light in your journeys dream_denizen.
 
dream_denizen said:
Lately I've been struggling with entities that are encountered during a breakthrough. I feel like they are distractions from much larger picture. They are pleasant to the senses at first, but after a while appear in every breakthrough and frankly it's getting old.

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i know exactly what your feeling and have been there too. the entities are rad exciting and do amazing and at times funny things but it starts to feel like they're just the opening act for a much bigger performance behind the curtain.
 
the entities are distracting, and although there is a super/ego you, do not attempt to marry the "entities" with your own ego they are seperate. and yes they are distracting from higher levels. In my opinion they are the shepards to the sheep we call soceity, once you stray too from the pack (astral projection) they try to shepard you back into order. My intentions arnt to roam with the pack... and getting past them produces some amazing results... also entities should be defined, i'm reffering to the more "alien" and bug looking entites, not the hindu/aztec god like entities who are the ones who should be sought and NOT ignored.
 
Pretty arbitrary definition of what is desired or not in a trip, dont you think, skinwalker?

I mean, by all means explore the dmt dimension whichever way you feel is good for yourself, but I dont think it can be generalized for others as your tone seems to imply. I dont think a hindu god is objectively better than alien or bug entities, to me they are all different sorts of manifestations of the dmt realm, and all of which can leave me in awe and come back with a little something that I can use for the improvement of my daily life. I've had from god-like oneness experiences, to hindu/buddha entity, to alien, to hellish, to ecstatic, to completely "normal" dimensions, to circus, to surrealistic, and an infinitude more of experiences, and I couldnt say that any one of these are more important or desirable than others.

I think getting past the entities also means passing by any manifestation from dmt, even if its non-entity ones. It's hard to describe, but every dmt experience I had, no matter how different, always had this certain mark behind it, like an infinitely alien and yet at the same time eternally familiar feeling, as if I knew it all along but it represents an alive Other. This awe-inspiring feeling makes the experience worthwile to me.

So I feel that to get into a specific interpretation of the experience ("oh, the god-like ones are good and the aliens should be avoided" or "dmt is a portal to another dimension and we should focus on interacting with entities" or "entities are a reflection of ourselves" or whatever else) is to miss the big picture, to get trapped in one reality-tunnel that maybe could even affect one's normal life negatively. Better IMO to just be open to whatever experience one has and try to surrender, and accept the mistery unjudgmentally.
 
". I dont think a hindu god is objectively better than alien or bug entities, to me they are all different sorts of manifestations of the dmt realm"

i disagree, in my explorations they serve very diffent roles. but again regardless of what i write on here i'm debated, what do i know anyhow.

my research has shown the imps, bug like aliens, elves, traditional "greys", and especially the carnaval freaks are all part of the progam's supression, you really need to evelate yourself past these lower level entities to reach enlightenment in my opinion/experience.

they are there to distract you from the larger truth, you will know it when you are prepared enough to ascend to the higher dimensions
 
The distractions don't necessarily have a distinct form (although many of the entities I see now are colorful and ninja like.) It's usually just a feeling I have. I'm shown all these interesting or magnificent things, but don't gain much from the experience. When I start to look past it all I feel a sense of gratitude. This is how I know they are 'blocking' me.

I like your idea of infinite reflection, clearlyone. You definitely understand where I'm at.

Really some great input here everyone, thank you. I feel now that I can interpret my experiences a little bit better. My trips are much more clear since I've changed my intentions. I think it is perfectly fine to ask for things from a trip. Otherwise, what does it do for me?
 
tele said:
IMO one shouldn't ask anything from DMT but take what it gives to you and be thankful for it.
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Hmm...I'd like to agree with you here but it's just not possible.

If we all take out our DMT: The Spirit Molecule books and turn to page 252 we will read... "There were two crocidiles. On my chest. Crushing me, raping me anally. I don't know if I would survive. At first I thought I was dreaming, having a nightmare. Then I realized it was really happening."

Do you think this man should be thankful for this torture? Maybe he should have asked them to stop.
 
skinwalker said:
". I dont think a hindu god is objectively better than alien or bug entities, to me they are all different sorts of manifestations of the dmt realm"

i disagree, in my explorations they serve very diffent roles. but again regardless of what i write on here i'm debated, what do i know anyhow.

my research has shown the imps, bug like aliens, elves, traditional "greys", and especially the carnaval freaks are all part of the progam's supression, you really need to evelate yourself past these lower level entities to reach enlightenment in my opinion/experience.

they are there to distract you from the larger truth, you will know it when you are prepared enough to ascend to the higher dimensions
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But at a certain point the hindu/aztek/egyptan god like entities will become the distraction.
I don't think you got Endlessness point.

At another certain point a bug eyed alien might be exactly what you need. Of course the god's are more pleasurable for most people. Well at least those who can handle the power of the higher dimensions. There are a lot of people in this world that would get terrified with an experience many of us seek.
 
dream_denizen said:
tele said:
IMO one shouldn't ask anything from DMT but take what it gives to you and be thankful for it.
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Hmm...I'd like to agree with you here but it's just not possible.

If we all take out our DMT: The Spirit Molecule books and turn to page 252 we will read... "There were two crocidiles. On my chest. Crushing me, raping me anally. I don't know if I would survive. At first I thought I was dreaming, having a nightmare. Then I realized it was really happening."

Do you think this man should be thankful for this torture? Maybe he should have asked them to stop.
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Well if you're a rapist or a pedophile, maybe that's a good lesson for you. Maybe after a lesson like this, such a person will understand what it's doing to other people.
After integrating such experience one might become thankful for it. If it has given a person the power to evolve away from behavior like that.

Just a thought.
 
'Getting past the entities', reminds me of this brilliant white / clear light. I have often seen this white light as a background BEHIND the entities.

And yes, now that you have draw attention to it, it does seem one gets caught up in the Awe brought by entities - while at the same time one knows the white light background is the true goal. Yet I get caught up inn their magical '4 dimensional morphing toys' which so memorize the attention and seem to seal away intent.

Not sure the entities are felt to be intentionally distracting. They are often seen as the ones filling the traveler with that very light; for such they receive my infinite gratitude.

It feels as if the response of Awe is the barrier. Frankly, its hard not to get totally overwhelmed with the influx of information / stimuli / experience. I come back to with my mouth still a-gasp in stupefied awe as it all slips away like a beautiful dream.

Sometimes it seems we are recently born over there. Still getting our legs ready for a walk out into the light.

Peace
 
endlessness said:
So I feel that to get into a specific interpretation of the experience ("oh, the god-like ones are good and the aliens should be avoided" or "dmt is a portal to another dimension and we should focus on interacting with entities" or "entities are a reflection of ourselves" or whatever else) is to miss the big picture, to get trapped in one reality-tunnel that maybe could even affect one's normal life negatively. Better IMO to just be open to whatever experience one has and try to surrender, and accept the mistery unjudgmentally.
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:d Of course 'one's normal life' is just another reality tunnel (interesting book BTW). So the big picture is a mystery that is, oddly, so familiar. What good news. Yes be open - dwell in the mystery - if you are so inclined :) I am so inclined!

But damn, if I could just get to that stink'n light behind the entities!:lol:

Could we ask for anything more? Shakespeare couldn't fathom such a plot as engrossing as this. Oatmeal for breakfast - visit aliens, entities, glimpse final liberation (whatever that is), face to face with nature of all existence - forget most of it, bask in the steam while gently stirring Caapi in the pot, all the while savoring the creepy (and somehow eternally comical) uncertainty that your hands or the wooden spoon really exist at all.

Gratitude is the only word.

@OP sorry for the tangent.
 
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