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^^..hey thanks very much jamie..i am truly glad you got something from this thread..
is the whole motivation to write anything online..
(speaking of which, apologies for the delay..have had a little net fatigue of late, and very busy)

jamie wrote:
..i generally agree with you jamie..i've referred to 'Classical Gnosticism' and attempted to convey a general definition..which i tried to give in this post on p1, starting with:
nen888 wrote:
..and yes i think the term 'Gnostic' has become a very broad, or modern pastiche, definition, based on the literal meaning of the ancient greek word gnosis γνῶσις - spiritual knowledge through direct experience
..the Golden Dawn (as in the late 19th/early 20th century esoteric lot, not the modern greek political party) did this to an extent, largely because there were almost no primary classical Gnostic texts still existing at that point, when interest in esoterica began to rise..the Nag Hammadi texts were not of course re-discovered until 1945, and not accessible to the public until the 70s -
cue Phillip K. Dick..i don't think he 'missed the point'..but i agree many fashionable uses of the word stray from the original gist..or what is common between the various diverging forms of ancient gnosticism

..if there is an emphasis equal to or greater than the higher order entity level of the 'troubles in the world', in the classical Gnostic texts, it is the core spirit experience which allows one to transcend and withstand or resist the troubles..that the essential 'spark' is uncorrupted..that the spirit dwells within all, beyond the reach of the 'archons', or the 'blind god', or the 'evil-doers', with purification of mind..and that we may each find emancipation in the knowledge and direct experience of the Source (or the Infinite Aeon, or the 'Father' etc) through Sophia (wisdom)

in The Concept of Our Great Power we are told:

and in the Christian Gnostic text The Sophia of Jesus Christ,
Jesus says:

..similar to descriptions of 'Brahman'...Jesus in India, anyone? ..but that's another story/thread..

thanks again jamie for your comments..i wish you well on your paths of enquiry..

and may Sophia emancipate us all..
.

<blockquote data-quote="nen888" data-source="post: 3506209" data-attributes="member: 16">^^..hey thanks very much jamie..i am truly glad you got something from this thread..is the whole motivation to write anything online..(speaking of which, apologies for the delay..have had a little net fatigue of late, and very busy)jamie wrote:..i generally agree with you jamie..i&#039;ve referred to &#039;Classical Gnosticism&#039; and attempted to convey a general definition..which i tried to give in <a href="https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&amp;m=305654&amp;#post305654" target="_blank">this</a> post on p1, starting with:nen888 wrote:..and yes i think the term &#039;Gnostic&#039; has become a very broad, or modern pastiche, definition, based on the literal meaning of the ancient greek word gnosis γνῶσις - spiritual knowledge through direct experience..the Golden Dawn (as in the late 19th/early 20th century esoteric lot, not the modern greek political party) did this to an extent, largely because there were almost no primary classical Gnostic texts still existing at that point, when interest in esoterica began to rise..the Nag Hammadi texts were not of course re-discovered until 1945, and not accessible to the public until the 70s - cue Phillip K. Dick..i don&#039;t think he &#039;missed the point&#039;..but i agree many fashionable uses of the word stray from the original gist..or what is common between the various diverging forms of ancient gnosticism ..if there is an emphasis equal to or greater than the higher order entity level of the &#039;troubles in the world&#039;, in the classical Gnostic texts, it is the core spirit experience which allows one to transcend and withstand or resist the troubles..that the essential &#039;spark&#039; is uncorrupted..that the spirit dwells within all, beyond the reach of the &#039;archons&#039;, or the &#039;blind god&#039;, or the &#039;evil-doers&#039;, with purification of mind..and that we may each find emancipation in the knowledge and direct experience of the Source (or the Infinite Aeon, or the &#039;Father&#039; etc) through Sophia (wisdom) in The Concept of Our Great Power we are told:and in the Christian Gnostic text The Sophia of Jesus Christ,Jesus says: ..similar to descriptions of &#039;Brahman&#039;...Jesus in India, anyone? ..but that&#039;s another story/thread..thanks again jamie for your comments..i wish you well on your paths of enquiry..and may Sophia emancipate us all.. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="nen888, post: 3506209, member: 16"] ^^..hey thanks very much [b]jamie[/b]..i am truly glad you got something from this thread.. is the whole motivation to write anything online.. [size=4](speaking of which, apologies for the delay..have had a little net fatigue of late, and very busy)[/size] [b]jamie [/b]wrote: ..i generally agree with you jamie..i've referred to 'Classical Gnosticism' and attempted to convey a general definition..which i tried to give in [url=https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&m=305654&#post305654]this[/url] post on p1, starting with: [b]nen888[/b] wrote: ..and yes i think the term 'Gnostic' has become a very broad, or modern pastiche, definition, based on the literal meaning of the ancient greek word [i]gnosis[/i][size=6] γνῶσις[/size] - spiritual knowledge through direct experience ..the Golden Dawn (as in the late 19th/early 20th century esoteric lot, not the modern greek political party) did this to an extent, largely because there were almost no primary classical Gnostic texts still existing at that point, when interest in esoterica began to rise..the Nag Hammadi texts were not of course re-discovered until 1945, and not accessible to the public until the 70s - cue Phillip K. Dick..i don't think he 'missed the point'..but i agree many fashionable uses of the word stray from the original gist..or what is common between the various diverging forms of ancient gnosticism ..if there is an emphasis equal to or greater than the higher order entity level of the 'troubles in the world', in the classical Gnostic texts, it is the core spirit experience which allows one to transcend and withstand or resist the troubles..that the essential 'spark' is uncorrupted..that the spirit dwells within all, beyond the reach of the 'archons', or the 'blind god', or the 'evil-doers', with purification of mind..and that we may each find emancipation in the knowledge and direct experience of the Source (or the Infinite Aeon, or the 'Father' etc) through Sophia (wisdom) in [u][i]The Concept of Our Great Power[/i][/u] we are told: and in the Christian Gnostic text [u][i]The Sophia of Jesus Christ[/i][/u], Jesus says: ..similar to descriptions of 'Brahman'...Jesus in India, anyone? ..but that's another story/thread.. thanks again jamie for your comments..i wish you well on your paths of enquiry.. and may Sophia emancipate us all.. :) . [/QUOTE]