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Greebus

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Hello everyone. I am a 41 year old male IT engineer. I ran into a weird spiritual experience last year that lasted for about 6 days. I call it my bliss. I didn't sleep but 2 hours a night. I was having OBEs like I was watching everything including myself. I felt like an animal sometimes where I was very alert and had enhanced senses. I could feel minor temperature shifts and the very slightness wind changes. I had enhanced vision. I had some trips too. I swam with dolphins, went for a journey in the universe, ran with a jaguar and kept seeing a running white buffalo. My workouts were intense. Everything was very weird but it was a great experience. And I was stone sober. No drugs, alcohol nothing. I also seemed confused the whole time. I called my aunt who I knew to be spiritual and she grounded me because by day 6, I felt like I had to go to the hospital because I knew something wasn't normal. After the fact I realized that I loved it. This began my spiritual journey. Before this I was another programmed lemming.

Ever since then, I have been trying to get back there. I think what happened was that through exercise, breathing, meditation and some death realizations about my father, that I may have opened my pineal gland. It doesn't take a mental giant to figure out how I ended up here. Besides that, I have had this uncanny urge to explore shamanism. WOW. Two birds with one stone on this site.

Now I am interested in experimenting and it seems very difficult. I had no idea that something natural would be so hard to obtain. So I decided to join the forums to see what if I can learn anything on opening the pineal. I am open to any suggestions.
 
Note: The following is nothing but personal opinions of a 44 year old psychonaut - I am not a doctor or therapist or counselor and this is not meant to be any advice of that nature.

Greebus,

Wow what a fascinating Introduction Essay! Thank you so much for sharing and Welcome to the Nexus!

Great to see another explorer with a little life experience - I also first joined the Nexus at age 41, so I immediately resonated with that part of your essay.

Your experience is fascinating to me. I'm sure many would like to label it psychotic or another kind of break brought on by stress, but given my own experiences, your resonating with your aunt's advice and the overall short duration (six days) as well as it's lack of return ("Ever since then, I have been trying to get back there." ) I'm not so sure. I certainly did resonate with it though in terms of my own "midlife crisis" which brought me here.

I want to warn you about something no doubt you already know my brother in journeying . . . and that is that you will never ever get back there, no matter how hard you try. It is NOT worth trying to chase that particular "bliss" state you experienced. You will run into wall after wall after wall. But, if you open yourself to the journey and I think you have, it is ongoing and one revelation leads to the next set of questions leads to . . . . you know kind of like your professional life (I hope). . . .


I think if you dig around this place (you can post anywhere in the Welcome Area but once logged on you can see the entire contents of the whole forum) you will find some fascinating and recent research regarding the human pineal gland. I hope you will not be disappointed to come to learn that it has NOT been found to have any DMT in it - apparently it's mainly full of melatonin and a bit of pinoline. Perhaps other Nexians will correct me here or make this more fine but that is the heart of the matter.


I want to encourage you to NOT drop your search/explorations/journey though. There is so much to see here. From various entheogenic plants that can safely induce altered states of mind that allow us bliss, exploration, insights and if all goes well, growth, . . . to meditation and other non-"drug" methods for reaching altered/blissful/more insightful states of mind.

It's amazing to feel an "awakening" at this point in life is it not? I hope you will enjoy this time. Please make yourself at home and ask questions as they come up.

Again, welcome to the Nexus.
 
No DMT in the pineal gland??? Well that dude on the Egypt video said... haha... I might have to go back and see what was said about the DMT correlation to the pineal. Maybe I misunderstood it. At any rate. I have learned not to question where I go. I just trust that I am where I am supposed to be. Then I observe and maybe question why I am there. I realize that my 6 day bliss was probably a once in a life time experience, but I see it as a wake up call. And NO ONE, my friend, that I have ever told about it, even commented about it like you did. No one has been fascinated about it. In fact, I stopped telling people because I got the blank stare. Maybe it was a midlife crisis, but I was feeling pretty good before that. Nothing was stressing me out. It came out of no where like something kicked me off a cliff and said "enjoy the ride" And I did, and maybe it made me realize that it's time to enjoy the ride.

I have done a lot of new things since then and have a new found vigor for life. I feel like a better person and am exploring new and different ways to live. I appear to be looking for some type of conscious evolution now. On some type of path to enlightenment like our ancient ancestors seem to strive for. There is something more and I am looking for it but I realize that the journey is the most important part of it all. So I am going to sit back, enjoy the ride and see where it goes without intention.
 
Greebus,

Welcome! I am so fascinated by your experience. Your six days of shamanic 'attunement' if you will is such a treasure, I am so happy for you. Also, as someone that practices shamanic journeying I am wondering if that is something you have tried doing or would be interested in?

Also, there is something that was recently given to me that has been quite spiritually activating, while not necessarily psychoactive or illegal. It is monoatomic gold, myth has it that ancient Egyptians used to take it with DMT and place themselves in sensory deprivation tanks as means of receiving spiritual insight and cosmic intelligence or 'downloads'. Personally I think that it is great, but haven't heard many other peoples experiences with it or if there are any solid risks in taking it...

Anyways, welcome to Nexus and I hope many more enchanting adventures await you!

love, light and bliss to you,
~starseed
 
I never have tried shamanic journeying, but am interested in it. It's funny. After I posted here, I called my aunt which I haven't spoken to since spring. She told me about shamanic drumming. Maybe the journeying and drumming are something I should explore. Any information on this would be helpful. I understand there is Google and whatnot, but often times someone who has done it can point one in a better direction. I would be most appreciative.

It's funny you mention sensory deprivation. That concept seems to be arising a lot lately in my experience. It must be something else I need to look at.

And thank you for the loving welcomes.
 
It's so fascinating all the methods humans can employ to reach deep altered states. Though I prefer the "shortcut" of drugs myself I know of drumming, meditation, sensory deprivation, pain, starvation and exposure to the elements, dancing, long distance running off the top of my mind and am confident there are endless others . . . .
 
This is a pretty good link on the guidelines for beginning shamanic journeying...

http://www.warriormindcoach.com/blog/2010/05/23/how-to-take-a-shamanic-journey/

Also, it is REALLY helpful to have a good drumming CD. Micheal Harner has a great one. There is 15min and 30min drumming on there and it has a call back rhythm for when you return back to your body which is really helpful. A good way of starting is to begin by going to the lower world and meeting your power animal(s). Once you have these allies/protectors/guardians then you are safer going to the other realms.
Some important tips:

ALWAYS retrace your steps coming back out of the journey. This makes sure that you don't 'wake up' feeling like crap because you left part of your spirit/energetic body in another realm.

Be careful how you phrase your questions to your power animals or spirit teachers. Phrasing question like "Should I do this or that?" will not work out so well. These types of questions displaces personal power and discernment and doesn't allow the spirits to give full advice. For example, if you ask "Should I take the job in Arizona or stay in California?" A spirit may tell you Arizona and once you move you have an awful time. In the spirits eyes this may be pushing you and encouraging you to move past certain social fears or whatnot. Point being, its good to be VERY clear. Asking yes or no or other simple questions doesn't allow for a full explanation. It is also good that if you ask for help with certain things to follow it up with "as soon as possible" because the relativity of time in spirit worlds is a little different than ours.

This should get you started and considering your past experiences, I'm sure you will take to it quite well.

Have fun exploring!

Let me know if you have any questions or confusions.

Blessings!

~starseed
 
Hi Greebus, I really enjoyed reading about your spiritual experience, it sounded incredible and I am sure you will be forever grateful for such an amazing starting point on your journey.
 
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