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I'd like to add that if using a liquid pad requires slow inhalation, I guess that's not for me. As for me too long inhalation will make it harder to keep the vapor inside the lungs... If copper mesh vapes it all quickly, it really seems like the best way! I can't wait to get some from ebay(it's not available here). Now I only have to learn how to make perfect mesh screen!


I found photo of gibran's mesh:


[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&m=204709#post204709[/URL]


If you read this, can you tell me do you use pliers to form the mesh and is the mesh in the picture perfectly working so I could use it as a starting point for my mesh screen? It seems that the thickness is about 5mm? And it seems the screen is as wide as the GVG's base?


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