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Recently I have begun to use a varation of the sandwich method that is even more effective than the original in my experience. First, it helps if you have a layer of ash on the bottom of the bowl. What you do is pack just enough of your herb of choice that you can clear in about two hits on top of this layer of ash. Make sure everything is spread out evenly. Now, sprinkle the spice evenly over the top of the bowl. On the first hit, hold the lighter as close as you can get to the spice without actually touching it (VERY IMPORTANT). If you burn the spice, it will all go to waste because it is on the top unprotected. Practice beforehand with a smaller amount if you are concerned. But basically, on the first two hits take the biggest rips you can in this manner. Do not burn anything, only heat it up with the air heated by the lighter. This will vape the xtals nicely and produce an silky smooth vapor. On the last hit, light the resulting mass in the bowl with the lighter for a split second to get it cherried and finish it.

Apologies in advance if I am not the first to use this method, but this method has been revolutionary for me due to the lack of funds to do things right with a GVG. Hope someone can get some use out of this!

Love and Light nexians!
 
Sounds good,:thumb_up: A torch lighter would work great at a distance to melt the spice into the herbs without touching the flame to it.
The sandwich method is basically making enhanced leaf right there in the bowl. Works great and gets over looked all the time as people spend countless hours and wasted dmt building contraptions of all sorts when all they have to do is a good sandwich.
 
SWIM has had excellent results with the full sandwich method. Ashes as a base from pre-smoking a few hits of B Caapi leaf or harmala enhanced leaf then a bit of fresh leaf added on top of that, followed by spice and a bit more leaf.

One quick pull to just barely ignite the top leaf layer and melt the substance into the leaf below then cover bowl with a coin to extinguish it after a second or two. Hold breath for 15-30 seconds to absorb whatever initial spice was vaped. Exhale. Second pull goes nice and slow with the lighter held high just until leaf is glowing, then the heat of the leaf burning does the work. Pull until the tube is full, then exhale completely and smoke slowly until all is completely consumed. :thumb_up:

Though he unterstands people love their GVGs, this has worked so well he hasn't really felt a need to get a dedicated vaporizer for his infrequent use.
 
one way I've been doing thats similar to this is to pack a small sage leaf on the bottom of the bowl, sprinkle enough rue on top to get a cherry going, then sprinkle the spice on top of the cherry, hitting it very lightly at first.
 
Jellyfox said:
one way I've been doing thats similar to this is to pack a small sage leaf on the bottom of the bowl, sprinkle enough rue on top to get a cherry going, then sprinkle the spice on top of the cherry, hitting it very lightly at first.
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Seems like too much trouble. You get a cherry going THEN add the spice? :surprised
 
Dedao, while it is slightly more difficult than having the spice already in the bowl, its easy if you have a friend with you. Just have spice on a folded business card or small funnel and pour on top of the Rue cherry. Rue cherry's much easier than ganga and will stay cherried for a long time. and by getting that cherry going your getting a bit of rue in you which will surely make it more visual. I havent smoked cappi but if that cherrys well you could use that too.
 
DeDao, are you talking about Acacia goo? Because ACRB is what I have been limited to, I had to change to this method. This method works AMAZINGLY for Acacia product. With MHRB spice, I would just vape in an oil burner. ACRB jimjam doesn't like the oil burner at all. Really, this method is my favorite for smoking anything other than clean xtals.
 
anon_003 said:
DeDao, are you talking about Acacia goo? Because ACRB is what I have been limited to, I had to change to this method. This method works AMAZINGLY for Acacia product. With MHRB spice, I would just vape in an oil burner. ACRB jimjam doesn't like the oil burner at all. Really, this method is my favorite for smoking anything other than clean xtals.
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Thank you for that Sunshine, I've been wondering if an oil rig would work for jim jam. I had concerns it would burn the hell out if it. So, are the hits as floral and smooth?
 
I wouldn't use an oil rig. My buddy is a huge advocate of hash oil concentrates and has a super tricked out rig, and even with multiple perculators the vapor (read: smoke) was extremely harsh. I think that the nail is simply too hot for the dmt. I am sure if you let it cool sufficiently it could work, but the mechanics of the whole endeavor leave too much to chance for me.

But back to your question, the hits are VERY floral and smooth IF done correctly. It is quite easy to accidentally touch the flame to the spice, which when unprotected will damage it pretty severely. But, once you get the hang of it, the first two hits are damn near like inhaling warm air. I am perpetually taken aback by how much vapor I exhale after holding the hits for 20 seconds when it feels like my lungs are just full of air.

Others may disagree but using a bic lighter is easier for me. Maybe I just don't have enough experience using jet lighters but I think there is a bigger margin of safety with the bics in regard to burning the spice.
 
Ok I'm hearing ya. I was thinking an oil burner was the same thong as an oil rig. So whats an oil burner kind of like a meth pipe where you heat a bulb of glass from underneath and have the dmt vaped by convection?
Pics?
 
Yes, an oil burner would be a freebase/meth pipe, with your bulb at the end and a little airhole at the top center.

Oil rigs are where you have a metal nail that you fire up with a blowtorch and then put a glass shield around to direct airflow to a downstem. Hard to explain but if you have ever done a "Dab" that kind of contraption is likely what you used.

Oil Burners (the meth pipe) don't work for this jimjam I suspect because of extra plant fats/ oils (acacia is a much fattier plant than mimosa) and some of the other actives which I suspect vaporize at different temperatures, NMT in particular. What happens is that it will vape really poorly and leave a ton of brownish residue, which still has plenty of actives because it recrystallizes. It just doesnt vape quickly/efficiently enough to get a breakthrough in my experience.

EDIT: Also, I would post pics but I don't really feel comfortable posting pictures of illegal things on the interwebs. Apologies!
 
I'll keep saying it: Roll a joint with a little bit of tobacco, a little more Cannabis. Then sprinkle a little more than the desired dose of DMT you wish to ingest ontop of the Cannabis. Spread it equally throughout the joint.
Then put another, tiny layer of Cannabis and Tobacco ontop of that and Voila: A DMT joint.

Using basepipes, chillums and potpipes I found it tricky to get consistent effects, but the DMT joint has never failed me. There is a little trick to how to smoke these joints though. You inhale deeply, slowly taking long tokes and you keep it in your lungs for as long as you can. Then you exhale through your nose, very slowly. I found that whilst holding the DMT vapor in my lungs, moving my upper body/torso around seems to increase and speed up the amount of
DMT passing into the bloodstream via the lungs.

This method has never failed me. I recommend every DMT smoalker to try this.
 
anon_003 said:
DeDao, are you talking about Acacia goo? Because ACRB is what I have been limited to, I had to change to this method. This method works AMAZINGLY for Acacia product. With MHRB spice, I would just vape in an oil burner. ACRB jimjam doesn't like the oil burner at all. Really, this method is my favorite for smoking anything other than clean xtals.
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Yes
 
SKA said:
I'll keep saying it: Roll a joint with a little bit of tobacco, a little more Cannabis. Then sprinkle a little more than the desired dose of DMT you wish to ingest ontop of the Cannabis. Spread it equally throughout the joint.
Then put another, tiny layer of Cannabis and Tobacco ontop of that and Voila: A DMT joint.

Using basepipes, chillums and potpipes I found it tricky to get consistent effects, but the DMT joint has never failed me. There is a little trick to how to smoke these joints though. You inhale deeply, slowly taking long tokes and you keep it in your lungs for as long as you can. Then you exhale through your nose, very slowly. I found that whilst holding the DMT vapor in my lungs, moving my upper body/torso around seems to increase and speed up the amount of
DMT passing into the bloodstream via the lungs.

This method has never failed me. I recommend every DMT smoalker to try this.
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As one whose favorite method of marijuana smoking is a joint, I've been interested in trying this. Don't you waste a lot though?
 
there is a great method i like, which is kind of like a variation on the sandwich method as well

i call it the "CHANGA IN THE BONGA" method (copyright Parshvik Chintan inc. - patent pending)

it's worth considering
 
anon_003 said:
Recently I have begun to use a varation of the sandwich method that is even more effective than the original in my experience. First, it helps if you have a layer of ash on the bottom of the bowl. What you do is pack just enough of your herb of choice that you can clear in about two hits on top of this layer of ash. Make sure everything is spread out evenly. Now, sprinkle the spice evenly over the top of the bowl. On the first hit, hold the lighter as close as you can get to the spice without actually touching it (VERY IMPORTANT). If you burn the spice, it will all go to waste because it is on the top unprotected. Practice beforehand with a smaller amount if you are concerned. But basically, on the first two hits take the biggest rips you can in this manner. Do not burn anything, only heat it up with the air heated by the lighter. This will vape the xtals nicely and produce an silky smooth vapor. On the last hit, light the resulting mass in the bowl with the lighter for a split second to get it cherried and finish it.

Apologies in advance if I am not the first to use this method, but this method has been revolutionary for me due to the lack of funds to do things right with a GVG. Hope someone can get some use out of this!

Love and Light nexians!
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This is how I first learned to smoke spice, years ago. :)

I remember one particular occasion when apparently more of my spice had melted into the pipe than I thought, so the next day when I went to take a nice big lungful from an after-work bowl of cannabis... BOOM! Hyperspace. If I recall correctly it was slightly unexpected, to say the least. I was very careful to avoid cross-contamination after that day :lol:
 
Entheogenerator said:
This is how I first learned to smoke spice, years ago. :)

I remember one particular occasion when apparently more of my spice had melted into the pipe than I thought, so the next day when I went to take a nice big lungful from an after-work bowl of cannabis... BOOM! Hyperspace. If I recall correctly it was slightly unexpected, to say the least. I was very careful to avoid cross-contamination after that day :lol:
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I've had that experience too. DMT always manages to surprise me - there have been a few times where I've scraped whatever gunk I had left in the bottom of my jar, packed it in my bong not expecting anything, then had a pretty solid trip. A pleasant surprise :)
 
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