Harmala HCL vs Harmine/Harmaline

[ildruido]

Ciao guys, I know this is a very newby topic but I could not find a final information that explain the difference between the compounds/extracts. In particular the dosages to use with thh and dmt. I found a nice recipe that says 150mg harmine hcl, the dosage is the same with harmala hcl or it is the same?
Thanks

 

[ShadedSelf]

I would assume that Harmala HCL means Harmine/Harmaline HCL mix.
There are a lot of other harmala alkaloids that could make a "Harmala" extract though.

Here are some guidelines for dosages.
Harmine and Harmaline have different personalities.

Personaly, Id say that the dosage for Harmine/Harmaline mix should be a bit lower than just Harmine since Harmaline is more "potent".

 

[ildruido]

I would assume that Harmala HCL means Harmine/Harmaline HCL mix.
There are a lot of other harmala alkaloids that could make a "Harmala" extract though.

it states:
"Contains the pure harmine and harmaline alkaloids (in the natural ratio 50/50 as present in Peganum harmala"

Here are some guidelines for dosages.

In the link says 30mg sublingual and 150mg oral. Not sure about it, sublingual goes eventually swollowed isnt it??

I would also mix the thh with the harmala, I think the correct dosage is 150mg

 

[Voidmatrix]

Sublingual administration should allow the alkaloids to be absorbed through the mucous membrane under the tongue, so won't be swallowed (except in small amounts). It bypasses anything that can break down the alkaloids in the gut such as stomach acid, and allow permeating directly to the bloodstream, hence the lower necessary dosage.

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