Harmala sickness

[Barmaley]

So some people i know took syrian rue extracts, about 400-500mg each. The extract was brown in colour and for fear of not feeling anything due to impure/contaminated product, such a large amount was consumed. It was a simple boil 3x salt 1L decant base etc method to obtain a coffee filter with this crude mixture that left the most disgusting after taste in swims mouth buds. One of the persons took 400-500mg at about 6pm and started feeling drunk like and light headed in about 1 hour. Sicky feeling and disoriented. Pot was smoked(that was the whole plan) and GREAT EXPERIENCE of course, almost like a mushroom trip without the intense morphing/visuals of surroundings. The next morning about 10am or so, that person opened eyes to see weird static-like lightning like trails around bright objects (like the window and couch and about 10 other objects in the room) that lasted for good half hour or so. Every time eyes moved even a tinsy bit, those shards of zeus' ire webbed everywhere. NOT extremely much but enough to say ''wtf...'' oh and the whole time and about 2 days after that experience, nausea and tiredness were well present. Especially during the experience, every time stomach was moved a bit or the person stood up, nausea hugged that person and wouldn't let go.

1) If the extract is dissovled in warm water, salted again and then basified, will the nasty chemicals starting with letter V go away? Are they the ones making the experience so nauseating?
2) Was it just too much of an amount? Because swims are afraid to even try a little bit now, so sickening were the next day and tiring the 2nd day and especially nauseating the experience.
3) Anyone had this before and did anyone get a flu/cold after wards?

 

[Jorkest]

that is a huge amount of harmalas...probably 3-5 times more than you needed...i wouldnt doubt that the sick feelings came from taking way too much..but i SWIM doesnt have any experience with harmala extracts

 

[endlessness]

the salt saturation eliminates the 'v' alkaloids, yes..

what base did SWIY use, and how did SWIY ingest? Dissolving in a bit of orange juice or something might help with nausea..

also taking some ginger extract/tea/powder some 20 mins before can help with nausea

 

[Barmaley]

Swim used sodium carbonate (baked baking soda in oven along with Mg sulphate in one nice energy saving bundle for 1hr+ at 420F, that's good enough to convert all baking soda into sodium carbonate right? just making sure, cuz first extract kinda didn't do anything and i was afraid it was baking soda not converted that's why) SWIM just put it into the mouth where it kinda dissolved/seeped into teeth cracks and saliva swallowed.
Can this stuff be dissolved in water and saturated with salt again and then based? Only reason swim took that much because it was crude...
Did your friends have any experience with impure harmala extracts, endlessness? Did they ever get tired/icky, down feeling the next day or two? because seriously, not exagerating, it sucked for two whole days.

 

[prottel]

The next morning about 10am or so, that person opened eyes to see weird static-like lightning like trails around bright objects (like the window and couch and about 10 other objects in the room) that lasted for good half hour or so.

Haha, yeah, you took too much. If you see trails when waking up the next morning you got yourself a pretty hefty dose. You could probably divide that dose by 3 to 5 if you are only looking for activation. Of course, higher doses of maoi has its benefits too, but it may take time to get accustomed to it.

 

[soulfood]

With harmalas I think it's much better to use something like coffee or cocoa to add strength. 250mg is the most I would take and have had electric visuals trails and multi-vision with that combo. Sleeping can be difficult, but no nausea has been felt the day after.