Thank you.

I've thought about boiling and/or freeze-thaws on the grind seeds, just never got to it inspired by being contempt with the yield. It might add something.

Cold soaking whole seeds, hmm, doubtful, but we have a standard expression at work when someone comes up with an idea: "Great, now you are going to try this out!"

I understand it would be neat to have a chart with all possible actions and what their effect is on the outcome. We could give a prize tag on the most important one and a boo-tag for the action that does little. Such chart would be a nice-to-have but takes a lot of comparing works to get to it finally, and then Steven Stokes comes along to tell that his boils are more effective than my boils and we're back at zero. :lol: Or Brenda Bullcock chimes in and tells us to grind even more finer for better etc etc. And perhaps they are right.

BTW one must wear blue gloves, no yellow ones or the yield suffers, and not any sandal works, must be Birkenstock! No sh*t.

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Sakkadelic, yes would be nice to eliminate the overkills. I think center of gravity is the hitting the whole very mushy seeds mechanically strong so their inner content comes out, with whatever means and repeat that. Something like this would be nice:

When watching how apples were pressed juiced, it was important to put them in a cotton bag. I would also do so with the seeds.

Or putting an amount of the seeds in a muslin bag and squeeze it with something like this:

I'm still wondering on the impact of the microwaves, does it more than just heating? I did waved mine shortly to try it (and finding out my oven wasn't good enough, no rotating plate --> heat spots) so I switched to standard boils.

The towel squeeze trick works best for 50 gr seeds at a time so your hands have a good firm grip over the ball of seeds. It's hard to overpower a too big ball like 100 grams in it.