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Cieran

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Ok here goes - i've been aware of the nexus forum for a while now but i've only recently decided to dig deeper and join up. I've had a good read of the FAQ and attitude sections and i'm very impressed with the maturity and collaborative ethos behind the website. I've been slowly gravitating towards DMT/ ayahuasca for a couple of years now and i'm finally ready to take the plunge.

More about me - i'm a 30 year old male, living in London UK who has had a run of seriously bad health for almost 7 years now. It all started when I was a fresh faced 23 year old, not long out of university and working in my first professional job. However after a routine blood test it was discovered that I was carrying a nasty virus (would rather not go in to detail). I then had to undergo an intensive 6 month drug routine which successfully cleared the virus but unfortuantly that was only the start of my problems. I then began to develop a series of unrelated symptoms which have persisted to this day and continue to ruin my life. I've been to see doctors countless times, had every blood test/ scan under the sun and all I get is lots of confused looks and scratched heads.

In all this time I have been physically unable to work, see my friends, have lost 4 stone in weight, hardly ever leave the house and am in bad physical skull-crashing pain all day long. My mood is very low and I am beginning to lose hope that I will ever get better and have a normal life again. A few years ago I was tempted to try dmt/ayahuasca but decided to leave it as I was still hopeful that I would be cured by conventinal means. That point has been and gone and now I am ready.

Through all of this I have looked deep at myself and my beliefs and have recently become alot more meditative about the transcience nature of reality and human consciousness. This has been a long and hard journey and my resolve has been severely tested but it has made me become a more spiritual and caring person. I have a good grasp on Jungian psychology and have recently experimented with lucid dreaming in an attempt to heal myself within a dreamstate - but without any success.

In terms of my drug history I have had plenty of experience of cannabis, although I stopped smoking it as well as tobacco 4 years ago now in an attempt to try and get better. I also stopped drinking alcohol round about the same time. I've also taken mushrooms a couple of times and had quite good experiences both times.

What I am attempting to do is to reach out for some advice/ information on whether dmt/ayahuasca could potentially help to physically heal me? If I feel like it is worth going ahead with I plan to take some in the company of my father who is a bit of an old hippy, as well as being a very wise & knowledgeable man, as he could help guide me and keep me feeling safe.

Well there it is....hopefully someone can help me on this quest for health. Thanks for taking the time to read.
 
it can help definitely.

if you want to try a mix of traditional health and alternative medicine, try contacting these people, http://www.chealth.co.uk/ they will put you in touch with someone local.

they have worked wonders with everyone i know who has gone to them.

peace
 
Thanks for the info - much appreciated. I've had a look at the website but I doubt I could afford Harley street prices, especially seeing as I have been unable to work for 7 years.

However it's one to remember for the future if my circumstances change. Thanks once again :)
 
Would anyone else like to offer an opinion?

I am very curious about using DMT for healing purposes and would like to hear any similar experiences if there are any.

Many thanks
 
Cieran said:
Would anyone else like to offer an opinion?
Opinion on what? Can DMT/Aya heal your physical problems? No. Can it serve as a tool to help you get to the next step on your journey? Maybe... it's all up to you and how you utilize the tool.

In the end, healing must come from you... not from a drug.
 
Opinion on what? Can DMT/Aya heal your physical problems? No. Can it serve as a tool to help you get to the next step on your journey? Maybe... it's all up to you and how you utilize the tool.

In the end, healing must come from you... not from a drug.

I think a1pha speaks the truth here, saying that it is ultimately up to the individual.
I also think the healing process helps when there is something new to look forward to and get excited about (such as a new job, seeing a new friend, or even practicing a new breathing technique). The drug may help spark this excitement, but again there are other ways to initiate it.

That said, if you think it might help, I say give it a shot.
 
a1pha said:
Opinion on what? Can DMT/Aya heal your physical problems? No. Can it serve as a tool to help you get to the next step on your journey? Maybe... it's all up to you and how you utilize the tool.

In the end, healing must come from you... not from a drug.

True.

IMO Aya is like shr00ms. It dissolves the me <> you (or I <>environment) barrier (to me it did). What you gonna do with that state is up to you.
 
most of it is definitely up to you , yet i am not sure i've heard somewhere syrian rue is anti-bacterial , perhaps it can kill the virus if its still in you

however most of it is up to you ,
 
It can help by putting you on another perspective.
Eventually you will be stuck back in the body ego and mind.
So the healing has to come from you.
 
Thanks for all the replies everyone - they have been really useful in helping me decide to go ahead and try it.

I probably should have rephrased the original post slightly as I don't expect it to fully physically heal me, but if it can give me some insight or understanding of what it going on then that will be an improvment of sorts and help me move forward.

What I ultimately feel like I need to do is get outside of my body and get some perspective on things. From what I have read about DMT breakthroughs it sounds like this will enable me to do just that.

I remember about 5 years ago when I was only a couple of years into this illness, I had a very strange experience while laying in bed one night. I had been smoking some cannabis and went to bed in a fairly relaxed state. I was laying on my back and noticed a throbbing sensation in the forefinger of my left hand. This throbbing feeling grew stronger and started to move up my arm - then I began to notice the same feeling in my other arm. This sensation continued down to me legs and up to my neck. It felt like a lead blanket was moving up my body and although my eyes were closed I felt like I was about to seperate from my body and float up to the ceiling and through the roof! However I was prevented from seperating completely by the pain and tension in my head, sinus and neck areas. It was almost as if I had a load of helium ballons tied to my feet trying to lift me up and a heavy weight on my head holding me down. This feeling continued for about 30 mins before eventually I needed to get up and use the toilet.

Since that day I have since learnt that this is classic sleep paralysis as experienced in lucid dreaming while using the WILD technique. However I have never been able to repeat that experience since that night 5 years ago. The pain and tension in my head which was stopping me from seperating has since extended down into my chest, arms, torso and even my legs. This is the physical illness that I am trying to break free from and why I think (hope) that a DMT voyage will help me to finally break free and maybe even become better.

I hope this explains my intentions further and thanks once again to everyone who took the time to read this thread and reply.
 
Jin said:
yet i am not sure i've heard somewhere syrian rue is anti-bacterial , perhaps it can kill the virus if its still in you
Antibiotics kill bacteria - not viruses. So I'm not exactly sure where this statement is coming from.

Do you have anything to support this, Jin?
 
I should probably clarify the virus situation a bit more. According to the docs I have successfully cleared the virus which was the inital problem. However all these secondary physical problems were never present while doing the treatment and gradually increased in intensity over the following years. As to whether the inital virus or the drugs I had to take led to me developing these further problems I don't know - the doctors don't seem to think so, yet they can't offer any other explanation as to what I am going through.

The best way to descibe it is that I don't know where the initial treatment symptoms ended and this secondary illness began - it's all blurred into one. I just never felt right afrer finishing the treatment and gradually got worse even though it was successful.

The longer this has gone on the more I feel like this is some sort of spirtual illness or trial and I have stopped looking at it as just a physical/ psychological thing.
 
Cieran said:
Ok here goes - i've been aware of the nexus forum for a while now but i've only recently decided to dig deeper and join up. I've had a good read of the FAQ and attitude sections and i'm very impressed with the maturity and collaborative ethos behind the website. I've been slowly gravitating towards DMT/ ayahuasca for a couple of years now and i'm finally ready to take the plunge.

More about me - i'm a 30 year old male, living in London UK who has had a run of seriously bad health for almost 7 years now. It all started when I was a fresh faced 23 year old, not long out of university and working in my first professional job. However after a routine blood test it was discovered that I was carrying a nasty virus (would rather not go in to detail). I then had to undergo an intensive 6 month drug routine which successfully cleared the virus but unfortuantly that was only the start of my problems. I then began to develop a series of unrelated symptoms which have persisted to this day and continue to ruin my life. I've been to see doctors countless times, had every blood test/ scan under the sun and all I get is lots of confused looks and scratched heads.

In all this time I have been physically unable to work, see my friends, have lost 4 stone in weight, hardly ever leave the house and am in bad physical skull-crashing pain all day long. My mood is very low and I am beginning to lose hope that I will ever get better and have a normal life again. A few years ago I was tempted to try dmt/ayahuasca but decided to leave it as I was still hopeful that I would be cured by conventinal means. That point has been and gone and now I am ready.

Through all of this I have looked deep at myself and my beliefs and have recently become alot more meditative about the transcience nature of reality and human consciousness. This has been a long and hard journey and my resolve has been severely tested but it has made me become a more spiritual and caring person. I have a good grasp on Jungian psychology and have recently experimented with lucid dreaming in an attempt to heal myself within a dreamstate - but without any success.

In terms of my drug history I have had plenty of experience of cannabis, although I stopped smoking it as well as tobacco 4 years ago now in an attempt to try and get better. I also stopped drinking alcohol round about the same time. I've also taken mushrooms a couple of times and had quite good experiences both times.

What I am attempting to do is to reach out for some advice/ information on whether dmt/ayahuasca could potentially help to physically heal me? If I feel like it is worth going ahead with I plan to take some in the company of my father who is a bit of an old hippy, as well as being a very wise & knowledgeable man, as he could help guide me and keep me feeling safe.

Well there it is....hopefully someone can help me on this quest for health. Thanks for taking the time to read.

Have you looked into adrenal insufficiency? Problems with adrenal burnout are common and can cause all those symtoms. It is not an eay thing to overcome, but a change in lifestyle helps..that includes everything from diet to your work life, sleep cycles etc..

Even if it started with a virus..that can be really stressful and draining on a person and that level of stress and anxiety etc can lead to other problems later on.
 
a1pha said:
Jin said:
yet i am not sure i've heard somewhere syrian rue is anti-bacterial , perhaps it can kill the virus if its still in you
Antibiotics kill bacteria - not viruses. So I'm not exactly sure where this statement is coming from.

Do you have anything to support this, Jin?

not really i have nothing to support this , i am only hoping that it will work for viruses ,
truth be told i am not really sure it will help atall , i am hoping it might help and this is only an assumption ,

i am clarifying this a bit so Cieran dose'nt jump into the deep waters just because of rue's anti-bacterial properties , as it might not really help the virus situation and could also exacerbate the situation further , frankly i have no idea atall , i would advice the OP to tread cautiously considering the medical situation
 
Good advice so far, and I thought about adrenal fatigue like jamie did. Not as the cause of your problems, but as a likely side effect or something that might be addressed besides any other initiatives you follow, at least in my experience. I treated myself against physical stress and burnout in the past, successfully with Ginseng, and even more successfully with Rhodiola Rosea. Take a look into them.

And as for DMT and aya, I would just keep reading and learning until I found the decision in myself. I don't think they would make things worse, but to get the best out of them you might appreciate feeling better physically. But again, it's up to you.
 
"Good advice so far, and I thought about adrenal fatigue like jamie did"

Well..adrenal fatigue is not something that western allopathy accepts(not that I agree)..the offical term that is recognized in allopathy is "adrenal insufficiency" . Sort of different I guess, in that if you ask your doctor about adreal fatigue it's likely they will say there is no such thing.

I digress.

One thing in that situation a person should be doing is making sure they are eating at least every few hours..and avoid any refined sugars and carbs..you want to eat carbs and animal proteins but you want foods that stabalize your blood sugar levels..like yams..

When your adrenals are not doing their job like that your blood sugar is going all over the place unless you take action to stabalize it..you can get really low lows and just crash completely throughout the day, and then later feel okay..really really low energy, anxiety, depression, exhaustion..these are all common in that situation..so are things like back pain..and often people will wake up in the morning feeling they just cant get out of bed at all and have zero energy..and then at night have lots of trouble falling asleap. If you feel like this at all than probly a good idea to seriously look into your adrenal sitation.

In any case I would get some good adaptogenic herbs and get on the most balanced and clean diet you can be on..get lots of rest and dont push yourself to do things you dont feel like doing..dont skip meals etc..
 
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