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LSDemon25

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Hey,

I just registered for the nexus last weekend, but have been viewing as a guest for quite some time. I'm a student studying horticulture with a deep interest in entheogens and extraction techniques. This interest in entheogens and extractions led me to The Organic Chem Lab Survival Manual by Zubrick and my interest dove into Organic Chem.

I have joined the Nexus to absorb the knowledge and wisdom of this community, as well as sharing what I can offer.

Bless up,

-LSDemon25
 
Welcome.

When I was in college, I took botany (for 2 years), philosophy (for 2 year) and organic chemistry (about 3 years), so it seems we have quite a few of the same interests.

(Speaking of good organic chemistry publications, I recently purchased Jared ledgard's "A Laboratory History of Narcotics, Vol. 1 Amphetamines and Derivatives" and have nothing but good things to say about it. It comes complete with organic chemistry basics, it details lab-ware and lab procedures (with illustrations), it outlines laboratory chemicals, it's full of detailed illustrations and diagrams, whether you have a PHD in chemistry or whether you are just a hobby researcher, this book is perfect. It gives you all the basics in a straight-forward and understandable way, but can also hold the attention of experienced chemists.
I'm not really interested in stimulants, but the chemistry always hooks me in, I find myself researching compounds I'm not interested in just because I enjoy the chemistry related to them, but don't worry it details plenty of psychedelic compounds as well...don't be fooled, on first glance you would assume this was an "uncle fester" type publication, but after reading a sample I guarantee you will find an amazing chemistry resource. (This book pairs great with PIHKAL/TIHKAL)

I look forward to reading more of your posts and hope that I can contribute.

-eg
 
Welcome friend

You have come to the right place to expand your knowledge.
Enjoy the community and everything that it offers :thumb_up:


Peace
 
Thank you entheogenic-gnosis, I will have to check that book out! I have a copy of PIHKAL and have enjoyed it.

Cheers Space Out! excited to be part of this.
 
entheogenic-gnosis,

Very interesting book. I also like the chemistry side of things. Secrets of Methamphetamine Manufacture by uncle Fester part 8 is also a very detailed extraction book with loads of different techniques witch can be used to loads of things.

-Feoom
 
Feoom said:
entheogenic-gnosis,

Very interesting book. I also like the chemistry side of things. Secrets of Methamphetamine Manufacture by uncle Fester part 8 is also a very detailed extraction book with loads of different techniques witch can be used to loads of things.

-Feoom

I'll get a copy and look it over...

In my mind, Fester basically just outlines known methods of synthesis in his own words, his LSD publication was a disappointment, it was a review of patented LSD synthesis methods with some phenethylamine work in the back, nothing really new or exciting, or even that informative, you could have got the same information by reviewing patents on LSD synthesis. his "Advanced Techniques of Clandestine Psychedelic & Amphetamine Manufacture" was a disappointment as well, there really was not anything "advanced" about it, again, basic review of well known methods...though I do own a copy of all of his publications, I'm not a fan of fester, and I honestly can't imagine any serious chemist taking his books very seriously.

Below is a list of some of my favorite chemists and their publications:

·Darrell Lemaire
SMART PILLS

·Alexander shulgin
PIHKAL
TIHKAL
The shulgin index vol. 1.

·Daniel Trachsel
Phenethylamine: Von der Struktur zur Funktion
(I have had to translate this myself, as an English edition does not exist)

·Nick sand
Misc. sand
more misc. sand

·Otto snow
-love drugs, -THC and tropacocaine, -LSD, -amphetamine synthesis, -oxy, -LSD and tryptamine synthesis

·Casey hardison
pybop condensation of lysergic acid and diethylamine

·David E. Nichols
basic nichols info
Nichols pybop and LSD analogue pdf

·Jared ledgard
-A Laboratory History of Narcotics, Vol. 1 Amphetamines and Derivatives

-eg
 
LSDemon25 said:
Thank you entheogenic-gnosis, I will have to check that book out! I have a copy of PIHKAL and have enjoyed it.

Cheers Space Out! excited to be part of this.

I also recommend obtaining a physical copy of TIHKAL. While PIHKAL had a generally biography centered first section, TIHKAL contains many chapters with practical value in the first section, the "DMT is everywhere" chapter gives you a fairly complete list of plants and animals which contain DMT, it gives you all the back ground you can handle, it also has chapters regarding drug laws, politics, misc. Chemistry, and of coarse biography. The second half of each book is offered online for free, this is the chemistry section, my favorite section, but I still recommend purchasing a physical copy of TIHKAL so you have access to chapters not offered online.

Recently I have been doing a lot of work with 2,5-dimethoxy-4-methyl-phenethylamine, 2,5-dimethoxy-3,4-methylenedioxy-amphetamine, 2,5-dimethoxy-3,4-dimethyl-phenethylamne, 2,5-dimethoxy-3,4-dimethyl-amphetamine, 4-methyl-2,5,beta-trimethoxyphenethylamine, 4-bromo-2,5,beta-2,5-trimethoxy-phenethylamine, and of coarse the usual tryptamines and lysergamides, I would be happy to discuss any of my research, or if you have any specific areas of interest or research topics I would enjoy discussing these as well.

-eg
 
entheogenic-gnosis said:
Feoom said:
entheogenic-gnosis,

Very interesting book. I also like the chemistry side of things. Secrets of Methamphetamine Manufacture by uncle Fester part 8 is also a very detailed extraction book with loads of different techniques witch can be used to loads of things.

-Feoom

I'll get a copy and look it over...

In my mind, Fester basically just outlines known methods of synthesis in his own words, his LSD publication was a disappointment, it was a review of patented LSD synthesis methods with some phenethylamine work in the back, nothing really new or exciting, or even that informative, you could have got the same information by reviewing patents on LSD synthesis. his "Advanced Techniques of Clandestine Psychedelic & Amphetamine Manufacture" was a disappointment as well, there really was not anything "advanced" about it, again, basic review of well known methods...though I do own a copy of all of his publications, I'm not a fan of fester, and I honestly can't imagine any serious chemist taking his books very seriously.

Below is a list of some of my favorite chemists and their publications:

·Darrell Lemaire
SMART PILLS

·Alexander shulgin
PIHKAL
TIHKAL
The shulgin index vol. 1.

·Daniel Trachsel
Phenethylamine: Von der Struktur zur Funktion
(I have had to translate this myself, as an English edition does not exist)

·Nick sand
Misc. sand
more misc. sand

·Otto snow
-love drugs, -THC and tropacocaine, -LSD, -amphetamine synthesis, -oxy, -LSD and tryptamine synthesis

·Casey hardison
pybop condensation of lysergic acid and diethylamine

·David E. Nichols
basic nichols info
Nichols pybop and LSD analogue pdf

·Jared ledgard
-A Laboratory History of Narcotics, Vol. 1 Amphetamines and Derivatives

-eg

Thank you for posting all these informative books. I will have a look at it.
 
Wow I love this site. So much info dropped so soon, awesome thank you for the book list. I obtained Jared Ledgard -A Laboratory History of Narcotics, Vol. 1 Amphetamines and Derivatives and have been thoroughly enjoying it. Working on getting TIHKAL now. 8D
 
LSDemon25 said:
Wow I love this site. So much info dropped so soon, awesome thank you for the book list. I obtained Jared Ledgard -A Laboratory History of Narcotics, Vol. 1 Amphetamines and Derivatives and have been thoroughly enjoying it. Working on getting TIHKAL now. 8D

If I had to choose a favorite between PIHKAL or TIHKAL, I would go with TIHKAL, but it's a tough call, they are both such amazing publications. I have literally had PIHKAL/TIHKAL at my side for around the last 5 years, and not just because my research is focused on phenethylamine, lysergamide, and tryptamine chemistry, but because I actually enjoy the books that much.

Albert Hoffman, Alexander shulgin, Darrell lemaire, Nick sand, Tim scully, Casey Hardison, owsley Stanley, David E. Nichols, and so on, are probably the most influential individuals in my life, and not just because of the chemistry connected to them but because of their outlook and philosophy behind it. I never mention "Ron hadley stark" or "William Leonard pickard", don't get me wrong, they were decent chemists, but their philosophy and outlook towards what they were doing was not in line with the chemists mentioned above, who are not only great chemists, but who are genuine individuals with a true mission inspired by these molecules.

What happened with all the blank posts?

Any way,

"A laboratory history of narcotics: amphetamines and derivatives" is an amazing book. Ledgard outlines step by step synthesis of several stimulant, entactogenic, and psychedelic phenethylamines and alpha-methyl-phenethylamines. I think it's great how he starts his technical work-ups from as close to "scratch" as possible, he outlines several different routes of synthesis for each compound, and one of my favorite features of the book is all the chemistry background he gives you in the first half. He gives you detailed descriptions of common lab procedures, and outlines every laboratory procedure you would need to know to preform synthesis of the compounds outlined. He provides detailed illustrations of laboratory equipment, and illustrations regarding various methods of arrangements of said lab equipment for various procedures. He outlines and describes various chemicals used in the laboratory and which are common in organic synthesis, and much more. If you are new to organic synthesis, this book coupled with a standard org. Chem college text book could do wonders. It's also enough to hold the attention of experienced chemists, I have about 3 years organic chemistry, so the basics are cemented into my memory, which can make reading introductory style works on organic chemistry quite boring, yet this book holds my attention the whole time, even the stuff that's review is enjoyable...I was expecting a "fester" style "cook-book" when I purchased this publication, but was pleasantly surprised to find an actual chemical work, complete with a high standard regarding quality of information.

I highly recommend the Dave E. Nichols lectures below, specially if you are just beginning to learn about psychedelic chemistry.

Dave E. Nichols - psychedelic science lecture

Dave E. Nicole - lecture

At 45:15 minutes into THIS Dave E. Nicole lecture Dave begins to go into a "structure activity relationship" activity where he will show a molecule, and then ask, based on its structure, if you have a stimulant, an entactogen, or a psychedelic. I feel This is a great exercise for those learning psychedelic chemistry. Actually, both the Nichols lectures above are highly recommended, I mean it's pretty basic stuff, and for myself it was almost all review, but it's still enjoyable, and often I Will pick up new things that I may have missed the first time.

-eg
 
I will check those lectures out tonight. Again thanks for all the great information. I've got a lot of reading to do 8D.

Sorry for the blank posts. Made a mistake on my first A/B extraction and posted a picture of a soda ash Crystal I thought at first was DMT due to getting unorganized in my process. Just finish my first successful ACBR A/B extraction tonight.

Is it possible to delete posts? I couldn't figure out how.
 

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IndianaHome95 said:
Im in school too. I assume you are 25? Around same age. How helpful is the book?

I happen to be 25, but that not the reason for 25 in my name. The Organic Chem Lab survival Manual is awesome, I was able to read it and successful steam distill limonene with out any previous chemistry experience besides one high school class that was sub-par. So far of all the other books dropped on this thread, the ones I have had a chance to did into have been great. Big fan of Jared Ledgard -A Laboratory History of Narcotics, Vol. 1 Amphetamines and Derivatives so far. A good portion is going over my head at the moment but ill get it.
 
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