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MerryPrankster,

I have to bow out of this. It's not appropriate to hijack your introduction thread with religious debate.

hehe, but I can't resist one final word: Those who profess "christian" faith must admit that the originating SOURCE of their faith MUST be the bible; it's all there is from which to learn about jesus. To then say that the bible may not be ACCURATE, but that they still believe in "christianity" is to make up one's own religion. If the bible doesn't relate literally true things, then christianity is just something you've created from your own imagination.

...not that there's anything WRONG with that...but (from experience) such inventions invariably then pick and choose from the bible, and THEN proceed to PRETEND that certain things from the bible ARE true, while others not. The entire process becomes a mass of delusion, based upon another mass of delusion. Some people actually imagine they're "sophisticated," by removing the "bronze age superstition" from the bible...not realizing that, once you do that, you might as well throw the entire bible out and start fresh (i.e., just make it up as it suits you).

....and, if I'm not already ENTIRELY HORRIFIED by most of the theist religions of antiquity, I'm even MORE horrified by all the cultish variants that continue to be MADE UP fresh (as you say you were subject to yourself in your youth).

I'll admit to my personal sensitivity to what I see as the great harm caused by "god cults."

I actually have more respect for insane fundamentalist christians (or the muslim taliban)--who have something that can be called "integrity" in trying to take literally the information from their ancient texts--than those who would claim those texts are "wrong" and then turn around and USE THEM to invent yet a new religion.

Sorry. Just my pet peeve, having been brought up in a country that plasters "In God We Trust" on everything.

<blockquote data-quote="SWIMfriend" data-source="post: 3447982" data-attributes="member: 1900">MerryPrankster,I have to bow out of this. It&#039;s not appropriate to hijack your introduction thread with religious debate.hehe, but I can&#039;t resist one final word: Those who profess &quot;christian&quot; faith must admit that the originating SOURCE of their faith MUST be the bible; it&#039;s all there is from which to learn about jesus. To then say that the bible may not be ACCURATE, but that they still believe in &quot;christianity&quot; is to make up one&#039;s own religion. If the bible doesn&#039;t relate literally true things, then christianity is just something you&#039;ve created from your own imagination....not that there&#039;s anything WRONG with that...but (from experience) such inventions invariably then pick and choose from the bible, and THEN proceed to PRETEND that certain things from the bible ARE true, while others not. The entire process becomes a mass of delusion, based upon another mass of delusion. Some people actually imagine they&#039;re &quot;sophisticated,&quot; by removing the &quot;bronze age superstition&quot; from the bible...not realizing that, once you do that, you might as well throw the entire bible out and start fresh (i.e., just make it up as it suits you).....and, if I&#039;m not already ENTIRELY HORRIFIED by most of the theist religions of antiquity, I&#039;m even MORE horrified by all the cultish variants that continue to be MADE UP fresh (as you say you were subject to yourself in your youth).I&#039;ll admit to my personal sensitivity to what I see as the great harm caused by &quot;god cults.&quot;I actually have more respect for insane fundamentalist christians (or the muslim taliban)--who have something that can be called &quot;integrity&quot; in trying to take literally the information from their ancient texts--than those who would claim those texts are &quot;wrong&quot; and then turn around and USE THEM to invent yet a new religion.Sorry. Just my pet peeve, having been brought up in a country that plasters &quot;In God We Trust&quot; on everything.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SWIMfriend, post: 3447982, member: 1900"] MerryPrankster, I have to bow out of this. It's not appropriate to hijack your introduction thread with religious debate. hehe, but I can't resist one final word: Those who profess "christian" faith must admit that the originating SOURCE of their faith MUST be the bible; it's all there is from which to learn about jesus. To then say that the bible may not be ACCURATE, but that they still believe in "christianity" is to make up one's own religion. If the bible doesn't relate literally true things, then christianity is just something you've created from your own imagination. ...not that there's anything WRONG with that...but (from experience) such inventions invariably then pick and choose from the bible, and THEN proceed to PRETEND that certain things from the bible ARE true, while others not. The entire process becomes a mass of delusion, based upon another mass of delusion. Some people actually imagine they're "sophisticated," by removing the "bronze age superstition" from the bible...not realizing that, once you do that, you might as well throw the entire bible out and start fresh (i.e., just make it up as it suits you). ....and, if I'm not already ENTIRELY HORRIFIED by most of the theist religions of antiquity, I'm even MORE horrified by all the cultish variants that continue to be MADE UP fresh (as you say you were subject to yourself in your youth). I'll admit to my personal sensitivity to what I see as the great harm caused by "god cults." I actually have more respect for insane fundamentalist christians (or the muslim taliban)--who have something that can be called "integrity" in trying to take literally the information from their ancient texts--than those who would claim those texts are "wrong" and then turn around and USE THEM to invent yet a new religion. Sorry. Just my pet peeve, having been brought up in a country that plasters "In God We Trust" on everything. [/QUOTE]