hello to all

[allseeingike]

i am 21 and live in florida. i have been to this site on and off for years but never made an account ( i made one on shroomery about a year ago because a friend of mine had an account there). i love the amount of information that is here for extractions and i mainly joined because i want to learn to extract my own psychadelics mescaline, dmt, lsa, and if possible psilocybin.

i have experienced with tripping i have smoked dmt about 27 times but stopped after a really bad experience with a bad bacth of dmt ( should have known from the gasoline like smell) this is also why i want to make my own. i actually want to smoke dmt again in the next month or 2 after over a year and a half.

i have eaten mushrooms about 6 or 7 times with doses ranging from 5 grams to 28 grams and one time at 3.5 grams. i have experience with lsd although it is more limited but i finally got my hands on some real lsd after years of getting shit. i plan on taking a large dose closer to the end of the year. i have also had experience with 4 aco dmt and 25i and various unknown chems sold off a lsd.
i also came here because i hope to find the courage to smoke dmt again as i feel like i am supposed to after a wierd semi vision i had last nigth. not sure what else to post since this is a psychadelics forum but if you guys have any questions feel free to ask i would love to get to know some of you guys better

 

[hug46]

hi welcome, lots of info here:thumb_up: What was your experience with the bad DMT? What happened? If it"s not too personal to ask

 

[allseeingike]

hi welcome, lots of info here:thumb_up: What was your experience with the bad DMT? What happened? If it"s not too personal to ask

i had gtten dmt from the same people ive always had but they had decided to try a diff extraction method. it smelled alot diff than when i used to get it before more like gasoline. anyways i actually got a meth pipe and made my self the spice device that i found on here 2 years ago. i lit it up and inhaled the smoke wasnt that rough but the dmt took over me quickly i closed my eyes and i saw myself sitting and i was leaving my body but i was just observing myself then my body turned into a skeleton and i saw my skull upclose it was glowing very green and my jaw was clenching. then i saw a giant hand come and take what felt like the energy out of the room.

at this point i realized i wasnt breathing and i started to see those machines from the hospital that help with breathing but they werent moving. i panicked. i breafly remembered how to breath and was able to get a gulp of air and the machine pumped once then i went a while like this taking maybe another 2 gulps of air. i could not remember how to breathe. then i saw a man who looked indian but like the natives from south america wearing a blue headdress and he was standing in front of me and looked very aggressive i felt like i was hated like i had done something very wrong ( i had done something very bad that hurt my wife i had almost cheated on her and i felt like psychadelics punished me for it for the past 2 years until 2 months ago when i finally confessed everything bad i have ever done and was forgiven and forgave myself) anyways after i saw the man i opened my eyes still having alot of trouble breathing and it was still going strong everything was covered in geometric shapes then i finally came down i was back to reality.


or so i though after about 2 or 3 minutes of sobriety i hear that sound i always hear coming up(dont know how to describe it) and very rapidly my vision was again covered in patterns and everything was moving. i felt like it was saying your not getting out of this so easily. i refused to close my eyes and this lasted another 4 to 5 minutes then i came back down. my throat felt clogged and fucked up and i had trouble breathing for about another 20 minutes not as bad as during the trip though

 

[hug46]

possibly the gasoline like naptha had a bad effect on your trip with your breathing and the like, if you are worried about doing it again leave it but, like with anything, learn and move on. i had a similar experience with some dmt which i don"t think was completely dry from the naptha, my chest was fucked and it affected the trip greatly. I dont have a large amount of experience with this substance and i have a dodgy chest (rarely nowadays) and i bought a vapour genie and i have to say , if you havent already got one, it is the best investment you will make for this type of travel, so smoooooth.
I havent figured out exactly what it is i see when i travel (when will i ever) but my theory is you use dmt to pick up the information of the surrounding consciousness or you are digging deep down into your subconsciousness or something else? Whatever it is, its there and thats the way it is. If you"ve still got the fear stay away IMO, but if it is subsiding jump in and get into it. just be happy:d

 

[allseeingike]

well i feel like i need to do it again and im not scared of the experience im scared to get scared. im also a bit hesitant of getting it from others now and want to extract my own to do it but i definately want to do it. in the past i have always encountered beings made of ligth some of them resembling my loved ones and i feel like they have something to give me hence why i need to smoke it

 

[hug46]

well i feel like i need to do it again and im not scared of the experience im scared to get scared.

me too!
If you get hold of the raw materials and do it yourself , not only have you made your own produce but you know what has been involved in the process. Also its quite good fun extracting and not that difficult (i am shit at chemistry and i manmaged it)
go for gold!!!!!!!!

 

[strange_loops]

well i feel like i need to do it again and im not scared of the experience im scared to get scared.

Hey there, welcome!

I mean this in a positive way: it's best to be a little scared. It keeps you smart. What was your set and setting like? Perhaps that could shed some light on the nature of the experience you had. It sounds like you experienced the scarier side of the DMT death experience. I think a lot of people have similar experiences with DMT. One bad experience can do a lot of damage. Some people stay scared for life, which I believe to be a mistake. DMT is incredibly different than other psychedelics in the way that it is less like one is hallucinating and more like one is being shown things. They come in many different forms, different for everyone. Elves, angels, spirits, native americans, whatever.

We are being taught by these things, and the lessons we learn can sometimes be very, very scary. If we try to get away from the idea of 'punishment' and instead think more about what we were being taught, and perhaps why, the experience can go from bad to productive. I have had some terrifying death experiences with DMT. That being said, I have learned so much from all of them.

I'm not sure if this will help, but for me, the lessons is in the letting go.

When I let go, accept the death, accept whatever it is around me and stop fighting, clenching, grasping for control, the experience is amazing. It is always difficult, and it is always worth it. Perhaps something to keep in mind for your next trip, and in life in general.

This is all just from my experience of course, I don't mean to state anything as fact!

Anyways, I applaud you for being courageous enough to try again. I don't think you'll regret it

And making your own is a great idea! it is a very rewarding experience and is not as hard as it seems. I highly reccomend Nomans tek.

Safe travels!

 

[allseeingike]

well i feel like i need to do it again and im not scared of the experience im scared to get scared.

Hey there, welcome!

I mean this in a positive way: it's best to be a little scared. It keeps you smart. What was your set and setting like? Perhaps that could shed some light on the nature of the experience you had. It sounds like you experienced the scarier side of the DMT death experience. I think a lot of people have similar experiences with DMT. One bad experience can do a lot of damage. Some people stay scared for life, which I believe to be a mistake. DMT is incredibly different than other psychedelics in the way that it is less like one is hallucinating and more like one is being shown things. They come in many different forms, different for everyone. Elves, angels, spirits, native americans, whatever.

We are being taught by these things, and the lessons we learn can sometimes be very, very scary. If we try to get away from the idea of 'punishment' and instead think more about what we were being taught, and perhaps why, the experience can go from bad to productive. I have had some terrifying death experiences with DMT. That being said, I have learned so much from all of them.

I'm not sure if this will help, but for me, the lessons is in the letting go.

When I let go, accept the death, accept whatever it is around me and stop fighting, clenching, grasping for control, the experience is amazing. It is always difficult, and it is always worth it. Perhaps something to keep in mind for your next trip, and in life in general.

This is all just from my experience of course, I don't mean to state anything as fact!

Anyways, I applaud you for being courageous enough to try again. I don't think you'll regret it

And making your own is a great idea! it is a very rewarding experience and is not as hard as it seems. I highly reccomend Nomans tek.

Safe travels!

ive had bad trips on it before but what really did it for me was the trouble breathing for 20 minutes after coming down and ive had worse experiences on mushrooms but i hold them as the most sacred and as the ones that have shown me the most. set and setting was good i was fine and in my room. i understand letting go it has tought me that pretty roughly. when i tripped on 25i i sat in the ocean water and closed my eyes and i saw a man meditaing on top of a mountain then i realized it was me. it was one of the most beautiful and peaceful feeling ive ever had and then a giant wave hit me followed by more and more. i heard a voice say hold your position you must withstand this to keep the peace and i dug my hands in the sand but it was no use i could not go agaisnt the waves. the bvoice then said you cant figth it you have to go with the flow. so i layed down and let the water take me. the waves were still hitting me but it wasnt as hard because i didnt have to figth then the voice said you have to fully submerge yourself so i did. i was under water and the waves did not effect me anymore i was completely still.

the voice then said breathe in. i got scared and refused for a bit but was forced to do so finally i did and i saw a triabgle of fish going through me the water entered in my nose and mouth and was exiting out of my ass and my penis it was cleansing the inside of my body but i was out of breath then the voice said stay underwater do not leave. and i did until finally i couldnt and my body unvoluntarily came up and the voice said you can not attain that level of peace you want and learn everything unless you die. basically it told me i cant be impatient i have to wait for death to achieve what i truly want and i have to wait if i want to enjoy this life aswell also i have to go with the flow i always went agaisnt everything instead of working with it.

also in all my trips i always end up drowing or completely submerged in water even when im not near water its the same on anything i take except dmt. also i took 4 aco dmt and i kept getting visions of myself underwater drowning with others and dying. i dont know but i feel like its telling me that is how im going to die. although the last few times it was really peaceful